Re: [Standards] XEP-184: Message Delivery Receipts - Message Type of Ack Messages

2015-04-13 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 13.04.2015 22:35, Christian Schudt wrote: > Sounds good to me… except XEP-0045 still uses „MUST NOT“ for groupchat-type > in private occupant-to-occupant messages. > Might be inconsistent wording across the two specs. > > Furthermore I can understand the issue raised in your linked post [1]: I

Re: [Standards] XEP-184: Message Delivery Receipts - Message Type of Ack Messages

2015-04-13 Thread Christian Schudt
Sounds good to me… except XEP-0045 still uses „MUST NOT“ for groupchat-type in private occupant-to-occupant messages. Might be inconsistent wording across the two specs. Furthermore I can understand the issue raised in your linked post [1]: In software an empty String and a null reference (here:

Re: [Standards] XEP-184: Message Delivery Receipts - Message Type of Ack Messages

2015-04-13 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 11.04.2015 19:39, Florian Schmaus wrote: > * Variant 1 > > The message type of an ack message MUST match the type of the message > with the related receipt request, if it's of type 'groupchat'. It SHOULD > match the type otherwise. A receiving entity MUST NOT make any > assumptions about the me

[Standards] Point request about BOSH support of XMPP server softwares

2015-04-13 Thread Ludovic BOCQUET
Dear all, We are in 2015, it will be nice to do a point about BOSH support of XMPP server softwares. The XEP-0124 is in 1.11 version since 2014-04-09 - 1 year. Link : https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0124.html With this point, we will inform dev teams to update it. Thanks in advance. Regards, B

Re: [Standards] XEP-184: Message Delivery Receipts - Message Type of Ack Messages

2015-04-13 Thread Georg Lukas
* Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) [2015-04-13 17:39]: > Headline also has the nice property that servers doing offline SHOULD > NOT hold on to headlines; that seems to fit the intent here. Probably > needs some testing in the real world. I see value in offline storing of ACKs, as it provides (visual)

Re: [Standards] XEP-184: Message Delivery Receipts - Message Type of Ack Messages

2015-04-13 Thread Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
On 4/11/15, 1:36 PM, "Christian Schudt" wrote: >Hi, > >I think Variant 1 violates XEP-0045: When receiving a „request“ message from >an occupant in a MUC room (type=groupchat), the receiver would send a receipt >to the sender directly, not to the MUC room, by simply sending it to the >„from“ a

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0327 (Rayo)

2015-04-13 Thread Ben Langfeld
On 11 April 2015 at 17:19, Philipp Hancke wrote: > hey Ben, > > >> Yes. It is certainly better than doing something like uaCSTA ( > >> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-TR/TR-087.pdf) >>> over XMPP. >>> >> >> >> I'll note as a preface to my below comments that CSTA is some

Re: [Standards] Marking up messages with metadata and XEP-0071

2015-04-13 Thread Ben Langfeld
On 10 April 2015 at 13:01, Dave Cridland wrote: > On 9 April 2015 at 23:24, Ben Langfeld wrote: > >> >> On 9 April 2015 at 16:58, Florian Schmaus wrote: >> >>> On 09.04.2015 18:59, Ben Langfeld wrote: >>> > Florian, my concerns with your approach are twofold: >>> > >>> > 1. It is complicated an