[Standards] Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: Happy Eyeballs

2024-10-09 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 6:18 AM Travis Burtrum wrote: > > On 9/24/24 4:12 AM, Daniel Gultsch wrote: > > URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-happy-eyeballs.html > > I think a simpler version of this XEP would just be: > > > When you have domains/ports to connec

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-09-24

2024-09-24 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, September 24 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * UPDATED: XEP-0004 (Data Forms) * UPDATED: XEP-0264 (Jingle Con

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Happy Eyeballs

2024-09-24 Thread Daniel Gultsch
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Happy Eyeballs Abstract: When a server's IPv4 path and protocol are working, but the server's IPv6 path and protocol are not working, a dual-stack application that initiates a connect experiences significant connection delay

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management)

2024-09-18 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.1.2 of XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management) has been released. Abstract: This document defines a protocol to query and control an archive of messages stored on a server. Changelog: * Fix JID and affiliation of the first two witches in the MUC example. * Fix duplicated 'id' in MUC examp

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0264 (Jingle Content Thumbnails)

2024-09-18 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.4.2 of XEP-0264 (Jingle Content Thumbnails) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a way for a client to supply a preview image for Jingle content. Changelog: Restrict 'width' and 'height' to the 0..65535 range, instead of being unbounded integers. This is in accordanc

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0004 (Data Forms)

2024-09-18 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 2.13.2 of XEP-0004 (Data Forms) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for data forms that can be used in workflows such as service configuration as well as for application-specific data description and reporting. The protocol includes lightweigh

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-09-17

2024-09-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, September 17 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * UPDATED: XEP-0133 (Service Administration) * UPDATED: XEP-0474

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0272 (Multiparty Jingle (Muji))

2024-09-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.2.0 of XEP-0272 (Multiparty Jingle (Muji)) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for initiating and managing multiparty voice and video conferences within an XMPP MUC Changelog: * Send Jingle IQs to real JID * Define how to use with XEP-0482

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0045 (Multi-User Chat)

2024-09-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.35.1 of XEP-0045 (Multi-User Chat) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for multi-user text chat, whereby multiple XMPP users can exchange messages in the context of a room or channel, similar to Internet Relay Chat (IRC). In addition to stan

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0494 (Client Access Management)

2024-09-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0494 (Client Access Management) has been released. Abstract: This specification details how an XMPP account owner can view and control which applications and services have access to their account. Changelog: * Promoted to Experimental (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xmpp.org/e

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0493 (OAuth Client Login)

2024-09-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0493 (OAuth Client Login) has been released. Abstract: This specification details how a third-party can be securely granted access to an XMPP account without exposing the account credentials, using OAuth. Changelog: * Promoted to Experimental (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xm

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0474 (SASL SCRAM Downgrade Protection)

2024-09-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.3.1 of XEP-0474 (SASL SCRAM Downgrade Protection) has been released. Abstract: This specification provides a way to secure the SASL and SASL2 handshakes against method and channel-binding downgrades. Changelog: * Fix typos * Adapt attack-model section to new simplified protocol (tm) UR

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0133 (Service Administration)

2024-09-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.3.1 of XEP-0133 (Service Administration) has been released. Abstract: This document defines recommended best practices for service-level administration of servers and components using Ad-Hoc Commands. Changelog: Fixed typo in example for Get User Last Login Time (dc) URL: https://xmpp.

[Standards] Re: XEP-0077: In-Band Registration - Account creation via XMPP and HTTP

2024-09-03 Thread Daniel Gultsch
he bar for changing final XEPs should be *extremely* high. As in "we generally don’t do that". RFCs are immutable too. "Nice to have" doesn’t cut it. > 4. Where should I add that change instead? We are already developing successors to in ba

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-08-27

2024-08-27 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, August 27 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * UPDATED: XEP-0045 (Multi-User Chat) * UPDATED: XEP-0388 (Extensib

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Access Management

2024-08-23 Thread Daniel Gultsch
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Client Access Management Abstract: This specification details how an XMPP account owner can view and control which applications and services have access to their account. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-client-acc

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: OAuth Client Login

2024-08-23 Thread Daniel Gultsch
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: OAuth Client Login Abstract: This specification details how a third-party can be securely granted access to an XMPP account without exposing the account credentials, using OAuth. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-oa

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0402 (PEP Native Bookmarks)

2024-08-23 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.2.0 of XEP-0402 (PEP Native Bookmarks) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a syntax and storage profile for keeping a list of chatroom bookmarks on the server. Changelog: Encourage clients to immediately leave the room if they receive a bookmark notification with aut

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile)

2024-08-23 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.0.2 of XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile) has been released. Abstract: This document describes a replacement for the SASL profile documented in RFC 6120 which allows for greater extensibility. Changelog: * Fix various invalid examples. * Fix the XML Schema to match examples. (egp) URL:

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0045 (Multi-User Chat)

2024-08-23 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.35.0 of XEP-0045 (Multi-User Chat) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for multi-user text chat, whereby multiple XMPP users can exchange messages in the context of a room or channel, similar to Internet Relay Chat (IRC). In addition to stan

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-08-20

2024-08-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, August 20 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update none 4) Items for voting a) XEP-0045: Presence sent to occupants

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-08-06

2024-08-06 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, August 6 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update - UPDATED: XEP-0054 (vcard-temp) https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-005

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Jingle Audio/Video Conferences

2024-08-06 Thread Daniel Gultsch
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Jingle Audio/Video Conferences Abstract: This specification defines a way to hold multiparty conferences with an SFU via Jingle. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/av_conferences.html The Council will decide in the next

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0478 (Stream Limits Advertisement)

2024-08-06 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.2.0 of XEP-0478 (Stream Limits Advertisement) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a way for an XMPP entity to announce the limits it will enforce for data received on a stream. Changelog: * Add the XML Schema. * Clarify that both children can be optional. * Fix inden

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0386 (Bind 2)

2024-08-06 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.0.1 of XEP-0386 (Bind 2) has been released. Abstract: This specification provides a single-request replacement for several activities an XMPP client needs to do at startup. Changelog: Add an XML Schema. (egp) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0386.html Note: The information in the

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0054 (vcard-temp)

2024-08-06 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.3.0 of XEP-0054 (vcard-temp) has been released. Abstract: This specification provides canonical documentation of the vCard-XML format currently in use within the Jabber community. Changelog: Updated error cases to be compatible with . (gk) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0054.html

[Standards] Re: Encrypted peer-to-peer XML channel

2024-07-16 Thread Daniel Gultsch
d (and cover 95% of use cases) cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list -- standards@xmpp.org To unsubscribe send an email to standards-le...@xmpp.org

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-07-09

2024-07-09 Thread Daniel Gultsch
://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0440.html - UPDATED: XEP-0491 (WebXDC) https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0491.html 4) Items for voting a) XEP-0386: Add an XML Schema https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1356 5) Pending votes Travis and Daniel are pending on - XEP-0054: Updated error cases to be compatible with

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0491 (WebXDC)

2024-07-03 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.1.2 of XEP-0491 (WebXDC) has been released. Abstract: This document defines an XMPP protocol extension to communicate WebXDC widgets and their state updates. Changelog: * Suggest what to use for selfAddr * Add acknowledgements (spw) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0491.html Note:

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0440 (SASL Channel-Binding Type Capability)

2024-07-03 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.4.2 of XEP-0440 (SASL Channel-Binding Type Capability) has been released. Abstract: This specification allows servers to annouce their supported SASL channel-binding types to clients. Changelog: * Add an XML schema. * Mention that this specification does add a new namespace that should

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-07-02

2024-07-01 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, July 2 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update - NEW: XEP-0492 (Chat notification settings) https://xmpp.org/extensio

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0484 (Fast Authentication Streamlining Tokens)

2024-07-01 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.2.0 of XEP-0484 (Fast Authentication Streamlining Tokens) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a token-based method to streamline authentication in XMPP, allowing fully authenticated stream establishment within a single round-trip. Changelog: * Added an XML Schema. *

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0492 (Chat notification settings)

2024-07-01 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0492 (Chat notification settings) has been released. Abstract: This document defines an XMPP protocol extension to synchronise per- chat notification settings across different clients. Changelog: * Promoted to Experimental (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xe

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0484 (Fast Authentication Streamlining Tokens)

2024-07-01 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.1.1 of XEP-0484 (Fast Authentication Streamlining Tokens) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a token-based method to streamline authentication in XMPP, allowing fully authenticated stream establishment within a single round-trip. Changelog: * Link to latest draft ve

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0107 (User Mood)

2024-06-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.2.2 of XEP-0107 (User Mood) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a payload format for communicating information about user moods, such as whether a person is currently happy, sad, angry, or annoyed. The payload format is typically transported using the personal eventin

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0491 (WebXDC)

2024-06-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0491 (WebXDC) has been released. Abstract: This document defines an XMPP protocol extension to communicate WebXDC widgets and their state updates. Changelog: * Promoted to Experimental (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0491.html Note: The information in

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0153 (vCard-Based Avatars)

2024-06-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.1.1 of XEP-0153 (vCard-Based Avatars) has been released. Abstract: This document provides historical documentation of a vCard-based protocol for exchanging user avatars. Changelog: XEP-0054 says “Email addresses MUST be contained in a element”. (egp) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/x

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-06-18

2024-06-18 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, June 18 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * Proposed XMPP Extension: Chat notification settings (https://xmpp.o

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: WebXDC

2024-06-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: WebXDC Abstract: This document defines an XMPP protocol extension to communicate WebXDC widgets and their state updates. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/webxdc.html The Council will decide in the next two weeks wheth

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Chat notification settings

2024-06-05 Thread Daniel Gultsch
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Chat notification settings Abstract: This document defines an XMPP protocol extension to synchronise per- chat notification settings across different clients. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/notification-filter.html

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0421 (Anonymous unique occupant identifiers for MUCs)

2024-06-03 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.2.0 of XEP-0421 (Anonymous unique occupant identifiers for MUCs) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a method that allows clients to identify a MUC participant across reconnects and renames. It thus prevents impersonification of anonymous users. Changelog: * Make exp

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-05-21

2024-05-21 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, May 21 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * Proposed XMPP Extension: Jingle Remote Control 4) Items for voting

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Jingle Remote Control

2024-05-14 Thread Daniel Gultsch
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Jingle Remote Control Abstract: This specification defines a way to remotely control a device using local peripheral inputs. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/remote-control.html The Council will decide in the next two

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0440 (SASL Channel-Binding Type Capability)

2024-05-08 Thread Daniel Gultsch
m CA certificates on the phone. I agree that the current phrasing of the XEP with regards to server-end-point is not the best. cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list -- standards@xmpp.org To unsubscribe send an email to standards-le...@xmpp.org

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0421 (Anonymous unique occupant identifiers for MUCs)

2024-05-08 Thread Daniel Gultsch
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0421. Title: Anonymous unique occupant identifiers for MUCs Abstract: This specification defines a method that allows clients to identify a MUC participant across reconnects and renames. It thus prevents impersonification of anonym

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0045 (Multi-User Chat)

2024-05-08 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.34.6 of XEP-0045 (Multi-User Chat) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for multi-user text chat, whereby multiple XMPP users can exchange messages in the context of a room or channel, similar to Internet Relay Chat (IRC). In addition to stan

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0030 (Service Discovery)

2024-05-08 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 2.5.0 of XEP-0030 (Service Discovery) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for discovering information about other XMPP entities. Two kinds of information can be discovered: (1) the identity and capabilities of an entity, including the protocol

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-05-07

2024-05-06 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, May 7 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update 4) Items for voting a) PR: XEP-0030: Note known wart https://github.co

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0440 (SASL Channel-Binding Type Capability)

2024-05-06 Thread Daniel Gultsch
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0440. Title: SASL Channel-Binding Type Capability Abstract: This specification allows servers to annouce their supported SASL channel-binding types to clients. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0440.html This Last Call begins

[Standards] STABLE: XEP-0398 (User Avatar to vCard-Based Avatars Conversion)

2024-05-06 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.0.0 of XEP-0398 (User Avatar to vCard-Based Avatars Conversion) has been released. Abstract: This specification describes a method for using PEP based avatars and vCard based avatars in parallel by having the user’s server do a conversion between the two. Changelog: Accept as Stable as

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile)

2024-04-24 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.0.1 of XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile) has been released. Abstract: This document describes a replacement for the SASL profile documented in RFC 6120 which allows for greater extensibility. Changelog: Fixed typos (md) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0388.html Note: The informa

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-04-23

2024-04-23 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, April 23 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * STABLE: XEP-0334 (Message Processing Hints) * STABLE: XEP-0333 (Di

[Standards] STABLE: XEP-0334 (Message Processing Hints)

2024-04-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.0.0 of XEP-0334 (Message Processing Hints) has been released. Abstract: This document defines a way to include hints to entities routing or receiving a message. Changelog: Accept as Stable as per Council Vote from 2024-04-17 (XEP Editor (dg)) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0334.h

[Standards] STABLE: XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers)

2024-04-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.0.0 of XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers) has been released. Abstract: This specification introduces a method to let the sender, or multiple participants in a group chat, know that a client has displayed messages up to a certain point. Changelog: Accept as Stable as per Council Vote from 2024

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-04-16

2024-04-15 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, April 16 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update Minor updates to XEP-0444 (Message Reactions) and XEP-0440 (Channel

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0444 (Message Reactions)

2024-04-15 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.2.1 of XEP-0444 (Message Reactions) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a way for adding reactions to a message. Changelog: fix grammar and spelling (wb) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0444.html Note: The information in the XEP list at https://xmpp.org/extens

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0440 (SASL Channel-Binding Type Capability)

2024-04-15 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.4.1 of XEP-0440 (SASL Channel-Binding Type Capability) has been released. Abstract: This specification allows servers to annouce their supported SASL channel-binding types to clients. Changelog: Recommend the usage of tls-exporter over tls-server-end-point (fs) URL: https:/

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-04-09

2024-04-08 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place today on, Tuesday, April 9 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * STABLE: XEP-0386 (Bind 2) * STABLE: XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers)

2024-04-04 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.7.0 of XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers) has been released. Abstract: This specification introduces a method to let the sender, or multiple participants in a group chat, know that a client has displayed messages up to a certain point. Changelog: * Change title to "Displayed Markers" * Bring

[Standards] STABLE: XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile)

2024-04-04 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.0.0 of XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile) has been released. Abstract: This document describes a replacement for the SASL profile documented in RFC 6120 which allows for greater extensibility. Changelog: Accept as Stable as per Council Vote from 2024-04-02. (XEP Editor (dg)) URL: https

[Standards] STABLE: XEP-0386 (Bind 2)

2024-04-04 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.0.0 of XEP-0386 (Bind 2) has been released. Abstract: This specification provides a single-request replacement for several activities an XMPP client needs to do at startup. Changelog: Accept as Stable as per Council Vote from 2024-04-02. (XEP Editor (dg)) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensio

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-04-02

2024-04-01 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place today on, Tuesday, April 2 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * LAST CALL: XEP-0398: User Avatar to vCard-Based Avatars Conve

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0398 (User Avatar to vCard-Based Avatars Conversion)

2024-04-01 Thread Daniel Gultsch
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0398. Title: User Avatar to vCard-Based Avatars Conversion Abstract: This specification describes a method for using PEP based avatars and vCard based avatars in parallel by having the user’s server do a conversion between the two.

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0424 (Message Retraction)

2024-03-28 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.4.1 of XEP-0424 (Message Retraction) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a method for indicating that a message should be retracted. Changelog: * Fix schema. * Add missing for attribute in fallback element (Example 4). (nc) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0424.

[Standards] STABLE: XEP-0392 (Consistent Color Generation)

2024-03-26 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.0.0 of XEP-0392 (Consistent Color Generation) has been released. Abstract: This specification provides a set of algorithms to consistently generate colors given a string. The string can be a nickname, a JID or any other piece of information. All entities adhering to this specification ge

[Standards] REJECT: XEP-0360 (Nonzas (are not Stanzas))

2024-03-26 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.2 of XEP-0360 (Nonzas (are not Stanzas)) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines the term "Nonza", describing every top level stream element that is not a Stanza. Changelog: Defer due to lack of activity. (XEP Editor (jwi)) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0360.html

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0392 (Consistent Color Generation)

2024-03-26 Thread Daniel Gultsch
that other HSL could be used - state that implementations SHOULD use constant S and L for specific usecases/themes for uniformity Council believes that this can happen after the move to stable. (But we would be very disappointed if it doesn’t happen :-) ) cheers Daniel

[Standards] Re: UPDATED: XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers (was: Chat Markers))

2024-03-26 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 1:40 PM Andrew Nenakhov wrote: > > Well, on the other hand, since the only scenario I can imagine using > in the wild has significantly different semantics from > readdisplayed markers, I think that this is not really necessary in this XEP. The part I was considering br

[Standards] Re: UPDATED: XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers (was: Chat Markers))

2024-03-26 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 1:11 PM Dave Cridland wrote: > 3) It's really not. Some clients and intermediaries need to know whether they > should expect a marker or not. No need to check this prior to sending a > , true, but useful to track missing markers afterward. > > Where was the discussion of

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers (was: Chat Markers))

2024-03-26 Thread Daniel Gultsch
and deprecated > 0184 instead. The XEP has a section that explains why 184 was kept. It's not just a different XEP it's a different semantic that many people prefer. cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list -- standards@xmpp.org To unsubs

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0490 (Message Displayed Synchronization)

2024-03-26 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0490 (Message Displayed Synchronization) has been released. Abstract: This specification allows multiple clients of the same user to synchronize the displayed state of their chats. Changelog: * Promoted to Experimental (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-04

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-03-26

2024-03-25 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, March 26 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * LAST CALL: XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers (was: Chat Markers)) * LAST

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0334 (Message Processing Hints)

2024-03-25 Thread Daniel Gultsch
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0334. Title: Message Processing Hints Abstract: This document defines a way to include hints to entities routing or receiving a message. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0334.html This Last Call begins today and shall end at

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers (was: Chat Markers))

2024-03-25 Thread Daniel Gultsch
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0333. Title: Displayed Markers (was: Chat Markers) Abstract: This specification introduces a method to let the sender, or multiple participants in a group chat, know that a client has displayed messages up to a certain point. URL:

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile)

2024-03-25 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.4.1 of XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile) has been released. Abstract: This document describes a replacement for the SASL profile documented in RFC 6120 which allows for greater extensibility. Changelog: * Add missing elements to XML Schema * Add missing XMPP Registrar Considerations (d

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0334 (Message Processing Hints)

2024-03-25 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.5.0 of XEP-0334 (Message Processing Hints) has been released. Abstract: This document defines a way to include hints to entities routing or receiving a message. Changelog: Incorporate last call feedback from 2017. Differences between this specification and XEP-0079 have been clarified.

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers (was: Chat Markers))

2024-03-22 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.6.0 of XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers (was: Chat Markers)) has been released. Abstract: This specification introduces a method to let the sender, or multiple participants in a group chat, know that a client has displayed messages up to a certain point. Changelog: * Add Business Rule about

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile)

2024-03-22 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 9:46 AM Florian Schmaus wrote: > - § 7. says 'None' whereas this XEP introduces a new namespace > 'urn:xmpp:sasl:2' which should be registered in the registrars namespace > registry (Yes I know that the XSF registrar is not in a good shape, but > still). Thanks. I've add

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0360 (Nonzas (are not Stanzas))

2024-03-22 Thread Daniel Gultsch
might even like it. However it is not. The XEP as proposed has major implications on the language used in existing, stable, XEPs such as SM and CSI and every future XEP we write. I don’t like that for the reasons outlined by Kev, Dave, Sam and myself. cheers Daniel

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0428 (Fallback Indication)

2024-03-21 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.2.1 of XEP-0428 (Fallback Indication) has been released. Abstract: This specification proposes a mechanism by which message bodies or parts thereof can be marked as being for fallback purposes, and therefore to be ignored by anything that understands the original intent of the message.

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0334 (Message Processing Hints)

2024-03-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
y MUST. Errors are sometimes generated by bouncing the entire stanza, including original contents, back to the sender, and these original contents might include a hint; it seems sensible to always ignore these." that also sounds like a sensible addition to me.

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0386 (Bind 2)

2024-03-19 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 9:59 AM Daniel Gultsch wrote: > 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol > stack or to clarify an existing protocol? Yes > 2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction > and requirements? Yes > 3.

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-03-19

2024-03-18 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, March 19 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * LAST CALL: XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile) * LAST CALL: XEP-038

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile)

2024-03-18 Thread Daniel Gultsch
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0388. Title: Extensible SASL Profile Abstract: This document describes a replacement for the SASL profile documented in RFC 6120 which allows for greater extensibility. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0388.html This Last Cal

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0386 (Bind 2)

2024-03-18 Thread Daniel Gultsch
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0386. Title: Bind 2 Abstract: This specification provides a single-request replacement for several activities an XMPP client needs to do at startup. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0386.html This Last Call begins today and s

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management)

2024-03-12 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.1.1 of XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management) has been released. Abstract: This document defines a protocol to query and control an archive of messages stored on a server. Changelog: Add XEP-0136 to superseded specifications (gdk) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html Note: Th

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0425: Moderated Message Retraction

2024-03-12 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, It’s the editor with a manual update here. Our tooling couldn’t process PRPOSED->EXPERIMENTAL and an update in the same step.¹ XEP-0425 was updated. Here is the change log. * Remove the dependency on XEP-0422 Message Fastening * Rename to 'Moderated Message Retraction' and focus only on the

[Standards] Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Displayed Synchronization

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
> now, but there would need to be some way for the server to know that eg in > MUC the id is in fact the stanza id vs doing the lookup in MAM for non-MUC. What you are proposing depends on the message being archived. The specification as written notably does not. cheers Daniel _

[Standards] Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Displayed Synchronization

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
to x" with "performing an operation on the account that involves x" is a slippery slope that I’m really trying to avoid. I don’t want to set precedence to for example to use "" to block "foo". This has come up in the group chat be

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-03-12

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, March 12 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Displayed Synchronization * LAST

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0360 (Nonzas (are not Stanzas))

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 4:18 PM Daniel Gultsch wrote: > > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > XEP-0360. > > Title: Nonzas (are not Stanzas) > Abstract: > This specification defines the term "Nonza", describing every top > level s

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0392 (Consistent Color Generation)

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 3:24 PM Daniel Gultsch wrote: > > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > XEP-0392. > 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol > stack or to clarify an existing protocol? Yes > 2. Does the specification

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0001 (XMPP Extension Protocols)

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.25.0 of XEP-0001 (XMPP Extension Protocols) has been released. Abstract: This document defines the standards process followed by the XMPP Standards Foundation. Changelog: Add note that editorial changes do not affect Deferred state (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0489 (Reporting Account Affiliations)

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0489 (Reporting Account Affiliations) has been released. Abstract: This specification documents a way for an XMPP server to report to other entities the relationship it has with a user on its domain. Changelog: * Promoted to Experimental (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xmpp.or

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0488 (MUC Token Invite)

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0488 (MUC Token Invite) has been released. Abstract: This specification provides a way to generate tokens to invite users to a MUC room. Changelog: * Promoted to Experimental (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0488.html Note: The information in the XEP li

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0060 (Publish-Subscribe)

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.26.0 of XEP-0060 (Publish-Subscribe) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for generic publish-subscribe functionality. The protocol enables XMPP entities to create nodes (topics) at a pubsub service and publish information at those nodes; an

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0360 (Nonzas (are not Stanzas))

2024-03-10 Thread Daniel Gultsch
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0360. Title: Nonzas (are not Stanzas) Abstract: This specification defines the term "Nonza", describing every top level stream element that is not a Stanza. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0360.html This Last Call begins tod

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0392 (Consistent Color Generation)

2024-03-10 Thread Daniel Gultsch
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0392. Title: Consistent Color Generation Abstract: This specification provides a set of algorithms to consistently generate colors given a string. The string can be a nickname, a JID or any other piece of information. All entities

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers (was: Chat Markers))

2024-03-10 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.5.0 of XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers (was: Chat Markers)) has been released. Abstract: This specification introduces a method to let the sender, or multiple participants in a group chat, know that a client has displayed messages up to a certain point. Changelog: * Remove to not replicate

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0447 (Stateless file sharing)

2024-03-10 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.3.1 of XEP-0447 (Stateless file sharing) has been released. Abstract: This specification describes a protocol for stateless asynchronous file sharing with integrity and transport flexibility. It allows clients to provide a good interoperable user experience in combination with Carbons an

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