Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Stanislav Sinyagin
also got a similar email this morning. On the SWITCH website, I couldn't find a clear not-for-profit statement. It says that the organization is founded by several cantons and their Universities. I admit they could actually be a for-profit organization belonging to cantons -- same as cantonal

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Viktor Steinmann
Um... after only surfing their webpage for 30 seconds I found this: Aus den Statuten: "Die Stiftung bezweckt, die nötigen Grundlagen für den wirksamen Gebrauch moderner Methoden der Teleinformatik im Dienste der Lehre und Forschung in der Schweiz zu schaffen, zu fördern, anzubieten, sich an s

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Stanislav Sinyagin
oops, found it too ;) - Original Message > From: Viktor Steinmann > To: Stanislav Sinyagin > Cc: "swinog@lists.swinog.ch" > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 9:25:42 AM > Subject: Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry >switch/nic.ch > > Um... after only surfi

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread rainer
> Um... after only surfing their webpage for 30 seconds I found this: > > Aus den Statuten: [...] > So according to their own documents, they have no commercial interest > (never laughed so hard). Well, you can take in millions, but still not make a profit: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registryswitch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Xaver Aerni
You must see, switch and switchplus are two different company... Switch is non profitable. But switchplus could be a comercial company. This are two difference companys. Greetings Xaver - Original Message - From: "Stanislav Sinyagin" To: "Viktor Steinmann" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Per Jessen
Viktor Steinmann wrote: > Um... after only surfing their webpage for 30 seconds I found this: > > Aus den Statuten: > > "Die Stiftung bezweckt, die nötigen Grundlagen für den wirksamen > Gebrauch moderner Methoden der Teleinformatik im Dienste der Lehre und > Forschung in der Schweiz zu schaffen

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registryswitch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Per Jessen
Xaver Aerni wrote: > You must see, switch and switchplus are two different company... > Switch is non profitable. But switchplus could be a comercial company. > This are two difference companys. AFAICT, Switchplus AG is a subsidiary of SWITCH and also shares an address with SWITCH. They're not a

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Steven Glogger
In their defense, they have lowered the registration fees at least three times in the last 8-9 years. That does show some "lack of commercial interest". hm... wasn't this because of the weko or some other institution forced them to lower the fees? -steven __

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domainregistryswitch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Xaver Aerni
What is on the Internetside is irrelevant. switchplus is registred as ltd. see... http://zh.powernet.ch/webservices/inet/HRG/HRG.asmx/getHRGHTML?chnr=CH-020.3.033.807-1&amt=020&toBeModified=0&validOnly=0&lang=1&sort=1 Switch is only a (Stiftung) not comercial. The question is is this ok that a n

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Per Jessen
Steven Glogger wrote: > > >> In their defense, they have lowered the registration fees at least >> three times in the last 8-9 years. That does show some "lack of >> commercial interest". >> > > hm... wasn't this because of the weko or some other institution forced > them to lower the fees? >

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domainregistryswitch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Xaver Aerni
Hello, This is possible, that this are the same persons. Any Person could work or own different companies... We have in our "Nationalrat" different men and women which are in different companies.(profit and /or no profit) The only problem which ich see is when a nonprofit office make adverstise

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domainregistryswitch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Martin Blapp
Hi > The only problem which ich see is when a nonprofit office make adverstisement for a profit office. But i think this is legal here in switerland. I don't think so in the case of Switch, Billag and any other monopol organisation with an official mission from switzerland. Btw ... AFAIK the

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domainregistryswitch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Thread Viktor Steinmann
You might be right about that: http://www.inside-channels.ch/frontend/insidechannels?_d=_article&site=ic&news.id=21706 Btw ... AFAIK the WEKO is currently investigating this issue. -- Martin __

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch]

2010-07-14 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hi, in my opinion, we should refer to the domain registry as NIC/CH (or nic.ch) It shouldn't be named SWITCH. SWITCH can operate them as long as they have the mission from the OFCOM/BAKOM (expires 2014?). But the name should be NIC/CH and no mention of any SWITCH services should be made with re

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Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch

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