Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Trademark applications

2009-01-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, SteveC wrote: > If you think I'm a total idiot, then yes, I would have tried to make > it criminal to use an un-granted trade mark [...] I think MJ Ray's argument was that even *without* any action from the trade mark owner's part, use of the trademark by third parties without express per

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Trademark applications

2009-01-20 Thread SteveC
On 20 Jan 2009, at 11:08, MJ Ray wrote: > Appealing for patience is all well and good, but it sounds like if > Peter hadn't acted when OSMF and the trademark agent had not acted in > time, it might have become criminal to call some things openstreetmap > tomorrow! If you think I'm a total idiot, t

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Trademark applications

2009-01-20 Thread MJ Ray
SteveC wrote: [...] > I can make absolutely clear I handed off all ownership of the domains > and trademarks to the foundation. [...] I've instructed, last month in fact, > the registration firm I used to deal now only with them. So, at the current time, the transfer is instructed, but has no

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Trademark applications

2009-01-19 Thread Peter Miller
On 19 Jan 2009, at 21:06, SteveC wrote: Peter of course knows all of this because he's been repeatedly bombarding board and team members with threatening emails. It's unfortunate that his core, often valid, concerns and objections are so often overtaken by personal attacks and bridge burni

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Trademark applications

2009-01-19 Thread SteveC
Dear all Speaking from a personal point of view as the guy who founded the project, registered the domains and trademarks and all that... I can make absolutely clear I handed off all ownership of the domains and trademarks to the foundation. I would invite others to do the same for the loca

[OSM-legal-talk] Trademark applications

2009-01-19 Thread Peter Miller
I checked on the Intellectual Property Office's website over the weekend and discovered that the trademark applications previously discussed on this list were still in SteveC's personal name. This concerned me as the final date on which objections could be lodged for one of them was the 21