Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: > Well, what information do you want it > to get across? Don't want look like a dork waiting for everyone to turn up :) > Do we want "OSM Australia" to > become some form of semi-official name for OSM > activities/groups in Australia? Dunno, I

Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-05 Thread b . schulz . 10
Well, what information do you want it to get across? Do we want "OSM Australia" to become some form of semi-official name for OSM activities/groups in Australia? Or do we just want a sign which says "There's an OpenStreetMap mapping party meeting here, this is what you look for to find us" in wh

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: > Well, how about blue highlighting > around the way? I don't know if that would contrast enough to be noticable. The other option is if we assume any ways that are tagged highway=ford are mostly highway=unclassified, then we can just render

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-05 Thread b . schulz . 10
Well, how about blue highlighting around the way? I've got a major assignment due tomorrow which is taking the bulk of my time but once it's done I might have a play with Inkscape and try to come up with a ford symbol. - Original Message - From: John Smith Date: Thursday, August 6, 200

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: > From a rendering perspective I'd suggest thick black > lines either side of the way. Like a bridge rendering but > without the little extensions which stick out at either end. > So, basically just a black edge highlighting. That might look a

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-05 Thread b . schulz . 10
Hmm, yeah the Wiki entry shows that highway=ford can be a node or a way. Since fords tend to be in isolated places it's rare that somebody would require a zoom level which would differentiate between a node or way ford. >From a rendering perspective I'd suggest thick black lines either side of t

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: > highway=ford doesn't render I've come across this before, I just made the ford the node that crosses, not the way. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstr

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: > highway=ford doesn't render How should it render? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-05 Thread b . schulz . 10
I can't find the email with the Wiki link so I'll just post this here: highway=ford doesn't render eg: http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=18&lat=-28.66798&lon=153.41719&layers=B0 - Original Message - From: John Smith Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 3:28 pm Subject: Re: [talk-au] Australian R

Re: [talk-au] gpsdrive and linux

2009-08-05 Thread Ross Scanlon
apt-get autoremove gpsdrive libmapnik0.5 openstreetmap-map-icons Will remove it completely. Initial disk space is now 28Mb for all of the above and I'm looking at reducing that further with improved initial raster maps. Disk space then used will depend on your map requirements and if you want t

Re: [talk-au] Pacific and New England Highway interchange area

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Jason Stirk wrote: > Just had a quick look, and it looks > correct to me? > > Do you have a link to the area marked as under > construction? > > I was up and along there a lot last month, but didn't > bother to survey as I thought it was all done. I took another look at wh

Re: [talk-au] Pacific and New England Highway interchange area

2009-08-05 Thread Jason Stirk
Just had a quick look, and it looks correct to me? Do you have a link to the area marked as under construction? I was up and along there a lot last month, but didn't bother to survey as I thought it was all done. Cheers, Jason 2009/8/5 John Smith > > I forgot to mention, the Tugan bypass actu

Re: [talk-au] gpsdrive and linux

2009-08-05 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:32:45 + (GMT) John Smith wrote: > I don't really want to re-install my eeePC before the Nambour thing, so I'll > try it in about 2 weeks time. > > However my comments about using mapnik still stands, it seems like over kill > to run a full relational database to handl

[talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
After I read this twice, I realise that this guy is saying write your own page and leave the others to their own definitions -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 F

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Luke Woolley wrote: > Currently, for local roads, I use residential for all local streets > which have houses along them. I use unclassified for all other local > roads, such as ones that run through industrial estates, rural areas > past paddocks, virtually everything exc

Re: [talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-05 Thread jhen
Noted. As far as I'm aware, all railtrails are designed predominantly for bicycle use.  This is a reflection of both the distances usually involved and the users they attract.  I do see the occasional walker on a railtrail, and these, horse riders and wheelchair users are also encouraged to use

Re: [talk-au] gpsdrive and linux

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Ross Scanlon wrote: > A request for John and Liz or any one > else who may be interested. > > I have totally rebuilt the deb packages for gpsdrive now > and would be interested in your thoughts. I don't really want to re-install my eeePC before the Nambour thing, so I'll t

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread Luke Woolley
When I made that edit, I probably worded it wrongly, as I meant that the residential tag was to be used in rural areas, but by that I meant local streets in the towns. But I made that edit when I didn't really know there was a mailing list or other real means of communication with other map

Re: [talk-au] 4wd_only

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: > Otherwise 4wd_only=yes could mean "any road which is > signposted as 4wd_only", regardless of legality. If it's signed on a public road sign it most likely is legally enforced since you would be disobeying a legal directive. However I haven'

Re: [talk-au] Trivia - Husband and Wife team.

2009-08-05 Thread Nick Hocking
"Did you file a bug report with the council? :)" No - not yet, but since this is a new suburb and people will be building houses next to the road quite soon, I'd better do it sooner rather than later. Also, whilst checking all of the street signs in Canberra, I've noticed at least a dozen differe

Re: [talk-au] 4wd_only

2009-08-05 Thread b . schulz . 10
Would it be useful to change 4wd_only=yes to read: 4wd_only=yes is for roads which are legally mandated to be 4WD only. I saw one in Victoria which was signposted as 4WD only and the guy I was staying with mentioned that it was illegal to take a 2WD car on roads signposted as 4WD only. Is somebod

[talk-au] gpsdrive and linux

2009-08-05 Thread Ross Scanlon
A request for John and Liz or any one else who may be interested. I have totally rebuilt the deb packages for gpsdrive now and would be interested in your thoughts. The new svn package can be downloaded from here: http://www.4x4falcon.com/gpsdrive/debian/ You will need to download: gpsdrive_

Re: [talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-05 Thread Evan Sebire
I would have thought that the tag highway=path would be more appropriate. After that follow what is in the wiki guidelines. I don't think we should necessarily appeal to the majority/minority on a particular path, but describe its properties. I was labelling many hiking paths as footway but have

[talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread Liz
lakeyboy or others, can you recall the evidence for this change? --- Begin Message --- James Livingston wrote: > In addition the "Australian Tagging Guidelines" (which Liz mentioned > were written a year before the residential page) explicitly disagree > with the residential page. I've done so

Re: [talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-05 Thread Liz
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, John Henderson wrote: > I expect to be mapping some of these sooner or later. I note that > there's no > > highway= > > tag given at > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Rail_Trail >s > > Is this intentional? Or an oversight? > > I'd expect

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: > --- On Wed, 5/8/09, Liz wrote: > > could we make an effort to ask Graham (?) VK1RE because he > > reclassifies roads > > as he drives them, and certainly would have the most > > experience with this > > matter. > > Is he on the list? i thought so, but even w

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Liz wrote: > could we make an effort to ask Graham (?) VK1RE because he > reclassifies roads > as he drives them, and certainly would have the most > experience with this > matter. Is he on the list? ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, John Henderson wrote: > Is this intentional?  Or an oversight? That's only a guide for specific things, the main map features should be checked first. > I'd expect them to be "highway=cycleway", making the > "bicycle=yes" tag > redundant. If you mean what I think you m

Re: [talk-au] Pacific and New England Highway interchange area

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
I forgot to mention, the Tugan bypass actually needs surveying, it's still listed as being constructed. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Pacific and New England Highway interchange area

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Mark Pulley wrote: > Pacific Highway is NR1 (white shield) - my last trip was > from Hexham  > up to Raleigh (near Coffs Harbour) - I think I saw a couple > of A1  > shields, but it's still mostly the old shields. The M1 from > Brisbane  > AFAIK did finish at the border, b

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread James Livingston
On 05/08/2009, at 2:40 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: > Maybe just say that, then, when it comes time to update the wiki :) > "Unclassified roads are likely to have slightly higher volumes of > traffic than residential". How does that fit in with the idea of using using residential in residential areas

Re: [talk-au] Pacific and New England Highway interchange area

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting John Smith : > I thought the entire length of the pacific highway was NH1, but it > seems the federal government doesn't cough up for funding so it's > NR1 for large sections if not all of it (according to wikipedia). Pacific Highway is NR1 (white shield) - my last trip was from Hex

Re: [talk-au] 4wd_only

2009-08-05 Thread Liz
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: > While it's not my proposal I updated it to match the current aussie > guidelines. Please vote for it if you are in favour of this tag so we can > get 4WD Only tacked on the end of road ways. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/4WD_Only >

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread Liz
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Roy Wallace wrote: > Ok. Clear enough. In other words, unclassified = "quartary" and below. > If this goes ahead I look forward to the wiki pages being cleaned up > accordingly... :) we had "quaternary" requested before and squashed. not sure what that was for so we will have h

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread Liz
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Roy Wallace wrote: > "Unclassified roads are likely to have slightly higher volumes of > traffic than residential". not even sure this will work an unclassified road in my town isn't going to have the same volume of traffic as a residential road in a city. __

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread Liz
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: > Which is how the Germans have been using it, and the software they write is > coded to work that way. except they forgot to tell the rest of the world. this project could do with a benevolent dictator some days (sigh) _

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread Liz
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: > I just realised in typing the last couple of emails that depending where > you are from it depends how you interpret the current meaning of > highway=unclassified. Hopefully by adding a couple of words in the right > spot it will clarify things much better.

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-05 Thread Liz
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: > It is rough as guts from what I've been told :) In 1982 I bd a sump on one of those Qld main roads, two ruts in the ground, travelling from Winton to the Curry. I guess its one of those type of roads ___ Ta

[talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-05 Thread John Henderson
I expect to be mapping some of these sooner or later. I note that there's no highway= tag given at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Rail_Trails Is this intentional? Or an oversight? I'd expect them to be "highway=cycleway", making the "bicycle=yes" ta