Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012-03-01 Thread Tom Brown
2012/3/1 Janko Mihelić > > > Dana četvrtak, 1. ožujka 2012., korisnik Tom Brown > je napisao: > > > Regarding your original proposal with Mo-Fr 08:00-23:00 t30: > > Instead of putting the count of trips in a time period how about giving > the average headway? When exact times are not provided tim

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012-03-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana četvrtak, 1. ožujka 2012., korisnik Tom Brown je napisao: > Regarding your original proposal with Mo-Fr 08:00-23:00 t30: > Instead of putting the count of trips in a time period how about giving the average headway? When exact times are not provided timetables and riders often refer to "how of

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012-03-01 Thread Tom Brown
Regarding your original proposal with Mo-Fr 08:00-23:00 t30: Instead of putting the count of trips in a time period how about giving the average headway? When exact times are not provided timetables and riders often refer to "how often the bus/train comes". You could represent this with strings suc

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012-03-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/1 Janko Mihelić > > "transport_frequency=Mo-Fr 08:00-23:00 t30; Sa 08:00-22:00 t25" > This one would be ( 30/24 + 25/24 ) / 2 = 1.146 trips per hour > > Janko > No, I forgot to count Mo-Fr as 5 days, and Sunday that has no trips. So it would be like this: ( 5*(30/24) + 1*(25/24) + 1*0 )

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012-03-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/1 Erik Johansson > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 16:07, Janko Mihelić wrote: > > The interpretation of what a low volume line is and isn't seems hard, > and probably differ a lot between different areas. > > How do I do the decision that: > "transport_frequency=Mo-Fr 08:00-23:00 t30; Sa 08:00-

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012-03-01 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 16:07, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Hello, > > The problem with rendering transit lines right now is that the busy lines > are rendered the same as the lines that go a few times a day. Those > differences between lines should be seen right away, but we don't have that > informati

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012-03-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/1 Bryce McKinlay > > GTFS is an open data format for public transport schedules. Just > because it was invented by Google does not mean that it's only > relevant to them. > > Many projects use GTFS data and have nothing to do with Google > Transit. Example: opentripplanner.org > > Bryce >

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012-03-01 Thread Richard Mann
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > I must admit I don't know much about getting renderers to work, but > summing frequencies of all bus lines on each way seems to be enough for > now. And if you draw bus routes with colours ranging from blue (rare route) > to red (busy route)

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012-03-01 Thread Bryce McKinlay
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Andre Joost wrote: > Am 29.02.2012 18:18, schrieb Paul Johnson: > >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Bryce McKinlay >>  wrote: >> >>> Secondly, GTFS is already a good, widely used, open format for transit >>> schedules. Introducing a new set of tags for this stuff

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012-03-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/1 Andre Joost > > Sounds interesting. For densly populated areas, it would be better to give > a frequency per hour, or every xy minutes. > Maybe my "t" could be replaced with "h10" for 10 trips every hour or "d40" for 40 trips every day. > But how should the renderer treat a service b

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012-03-01 Thread Richard Mann
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Andre Joost wrote: > The renderer has to look up every bus service on a road, and count them > together. This is not a simple thing with current mapnik. > > > Yes indeed. I've done it by applying local external rules (if ref=X13 then behave as if frequency=6, becaus