Re: [time-nuts] Robert G8RPI -- Odetics 325 PSU

2008-04-20 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Glenn, I agree 100% having repaired SMPSU's since the late 70's, However this particular unit is multi output, multi input and VERY densely packed. It would not be worth replascing all the caps.because you would have to totally dismantle the PSU to do it. Robert G8RPI. Glenn Littl

Re: [time-nuts] Robert G8RPI -- Odetics 325 PSU

2008-04-20 Thread Roy Phillips
Glenn Thanks for the very incisive "inside" perspective on SMPS - I would certainly agree that the average SMPS unit is very much a 'budget' design, but this one is rather well made, and provides a DC 'back up' facility, so it would be nice to restore it. There is also the very real danger of c

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency reference

2008-04-20 Thread David C. Partridge
Paging Tom van Baak. I replied to your offline email, but that email and the follow up sent with delivery receipt requested seem not to have arrived. Do you or your ISP have a (silent) spam trapper that is putting my mails in the bin without sending a delivery receipt? Thanks Dave -Original

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency reference

2008-04-20 Thread Chuck Harris
Most experienced people refuse to send delivery receipts. To send them would validate their address to all of the spammers that blindly spam every email address they can scrape off of the internet. -Chuck Harris David C. Partridge wrote: > Paging Tom van Baak. I replied to your offline email,

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency reference

2008-04-20 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:47:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) "Richard W. Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can build a very good GPSDO for about $100 in parts. Stupid question, but if one builds his on frequency reference, how can you be sure it's acurate and precise? Or to but it in other words: how

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency reference

2008-04-20 Thread Jim Lux
Quoting Attila Kinali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Sun 20 Apr 2008 05:50:21 AM PDT: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:47:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > "Richard W. Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You can build a very good GPSDO for about $100 in parts. > > Stupid question, but if one builds his on frequency >

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency reference

2008-04-20 Thread Didier Juges
> Attila Kinali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Sun 20 Apr 2008 > 05:50:21 AM PDT: > > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:47:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) "Richard W. Solomon" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> You can build a very good GPSDO for about $100 in parts. > > > > Stupid question, but if one builds his on

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency reference

2008-04-20 Thread Richard W. Solomon
You can never be absolutely sure of your frequency, no matter how you measure it. That is the Holy Grail that the folks on this list pursue but can never attain. Since the GPSDO I built (actually two of them) uses the GPS satellite system for frequency control, I feel it's as good as you can get i

[time-nuts] Y2K again: Tuesday 03:14:07 GMT, January 19, 2038

2008-04-20 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: This is the rollover date for "C" language date functions that count the seconds since 00:00:00 1 Jan 1970 with a signed 32 bit integer. One second after after 03:14:07 GMT, January 19, 2038 is in 1901. -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com/P/Prod.html Products I make and sell

Re: [time-nuts] Y2K again: Tuesday 03:14:07 GMT, January 19, 2038

2008-04-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brooke Clarke writes: >Hi: > >This is the rollover date for "C" language date functions that count the >seconds since 00:00:00 1 Jan 1970 with a signed 32 bit integer. > >One second after after 03:14:07 GMT, January 19, 2038 is in 1901. I think you can take it as r

Re: [time-nuts] Y2K again: Tuesday 03:14:07 GMT, January 19, 2038

2008-04-20 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: I should have mentioned the failures have just started. If you subtract 30 years from the subject date you get: 03:14:07 GMT, January 19, 2008 Financial institutions that do 30 year mortgage calculations are the ones who were bitten. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com/P/Prod.ht

[time-nuts] Match Stick Clock

2008-04-20 Thread Neon John
One of the coolest art clocks I've seen in awhile http://www.christiaanpostma.nl/ Flash animation of it working here: http://technabob.com/blog/2008/04/19/word-clock-slowly-reveals-the-time-with-text/ John -- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.neon-john.com h

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency reference

2008-04-20 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:25:37 -0700 Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Stupid question, but if one builds his on frequency > > reference, how can you be sure it's acurate and precise? > > not a stupid question at all..PhD dissertations have been written > about answering it. If there are dis

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency reference

2008-04-20 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:28:51 -0700 (GMT-07:00) "Richard W. Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One experiment I tried to confirm that they actually worked was: > One GPSDO 10 MHz output was used as the external reference for an > EIP 535 Counter. The second GPSDO was used to lock up a 1 GHz PLO

Re: [time-nuts] Match Stick Clock

2008-04-20 Thread Robert Lutwak
Must be a drag to set. -RL --- Robert Lutwak Symmetricom - Technology Realization Center [EMAIL PROTECTED](Business) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Personal) (978) 232-1461 (Desk) (339) 927-7896 (Mobile) (

Re: [time-nuts] Y2K again: Tuesday 03:14:07 GMT, January 19, 2038

2008-04-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brooke Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : I should have mentioned the failures have just started. If you subtract 30 : years from the subject date you get: 03:14:07 GMT, January 19, 2008 : Financial institutions that do 30 year mortgage calculations

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency reference

2008-04-20 Thread Richard W. Solomon
I didn't worry about it. As the old Philosopher once said: ..."It will be what it will be"... . 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- >From: Attila Kinali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Apr 20, 2008 4:25 PM >To: "Richard W. Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequen

Re: [time-nuts] Y2K again: Tuesday 03:14:07 GMT, January 19, 2038

2008-04-20 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Brooke Clarke at 2008-04-21 04:59... > This is the rollover date for "C" language date functions that count the > seconds since 00:00:00 1 Jan 1970 with a signed 32 bit integer. > > One second after after 03:14:07 GMT, January 19, 2038 is in 1901. This has been known about for some time -

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency reference

2008-04-20 Thread Alan Melia
It does not matter how many references you build you will never know how good they are. There can only one judgement "goodness", and this is comparison with the national standard. You reference may even be "better" that a national standard but must be judged against the national standard. Most coun

[time-nuts] Ovenaire 10 MHz OSC 49-69 PIN OUT

2008-04-20 Thread jshank
Hi, I have an Ovenaire 10 MHz OSC 49-69 ser.no. 20823-3 which I am in need of a pin-out and or any other information. Thanks, Jeff ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time

Re: [time-nuts] using Fury GPSDO with Rb

2008-04-20 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello Ulrich, This is so true. See Tom's phase noise tests of a Russian Rubidium prototype disciplined by a Fury GPSDO. Lot's of times there is not much space to put a good OCXO inside the Rb's case. BTW: using the Fury's 1PPS input, that unit can be used as a cleanup loop for dirty Rb's

Re: [time-nuts] Ovenaire 10 MHz OSC 49-69 PIN OUT

2008-04-20 Thread Didier Juges
Have you checked my manuals page? http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl Search for "Ovenair" There are pictures and an email indicating the Ovenair 49-62 was Option 1 for the HP 8656A signal generator, and information is available in that manual. Send me a direct email if you can't find the ma

Re: [time-nuts] using Fury GPSDO with Rb

2008-04-20 Thread Bruce Griffiths
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello Ulrich, > > This is so true. See Tom's phase noise tests of a Russian Rubidium prototype > disciplined by a Fury GPSDO. Lot's of times there is not much space to put a > good OCXO inside the Rb's case. > > BTW: using the Fury's 1PPS input, that unit can be u