Re: [time-nuts] fleabay cesium

2009-05-09 Thread WB6BNQ
Magnus, That is why I said ". . . setup and properly adjusted . . " BillWB6BNQ Magnus Danielson wrote: > WB6BNQ skrev: > >Well Dick, > > > >Assuming it is setup and properly adjusted, it is absolute as a > >frequency reference by "def

Re: [time-nuts] fleabay cesium

2009-05-08 Thread WB6BNQ
read it and gain an understanding of its fundamentals. There are other publications that would be worth studying; if you want or need those let me know as well. 73BillWB6BNQ "Richard W. Solomon" wrote: OK, dumb question time. I have a few GPSDO's (Trimble

Re: [time-nuts] OT: 10 MHz data capture, help

2009-04-10 Thread WB6BNQ
WB6BNQ wrote: > Tom Van Baak wrote: > > > I have a old data device that is spitting out TTL data at 10 MHz. > > There's just a data line (no clock) but the edges clearly indicate > > an internal 10 MHz clock. > > > > I'd like to do a continuous capt

Re: [time-nuts] OT: 10 MHz data capture, help

2009-04-10 Thread WB6BNQ
00Hz to 30MHz. Look at the following URL: http://www.rfspace.com/SDR-IQ.html BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] OT: 10 MHz data capture, help

2009-04-10 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi TVB, How about directly capturing it by reading one of the logic bits of the parallel port ? BillWB6BNQ Tom Van Baak wrote: > I have a old data device that is spitting out TTL data at 10 MHz. > There's just a data line (no clock) but the edges clearly indicate > an interna

Re: [time-nuts] Hahl Pneumatic and Self Winding Clocks

2009-03-14 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Mitch, Sounds like you need a bigger dog ! (hi hi) 73BillWB6BNQ MITCHELL JANOFF wrote: > I'm in the process of connecting my Hahl clock to a GPS based standard. I've > tested quite a few ideas for the Hahl clock and I found that what works best > is the small &q

Re: [time-nuts] Never mind Thunderbolts...

2009-02-23 Thread WB6BNQ
. If you carefully disassemble RB frequency device you will have all the same components, albeit on a smaller scale. Just add a magnifying glass and you got it ! ! ! BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] Toilet paper speed

2009-02-21 Thread WB6BNQ
Tom, Don't forget to save a few squares ! BillWB6BNQ Tom Van Baak wrote: > This is an interesting T&F problem, actually. It depends what > you mean by "it". If "it goes" means the paper itself -- if you > pull at a constant linear rate then it

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt serial port

2009-02-20 Thread WB6BNQ
Brian, Have you measured the voltages with a scope to see if it may not be a compliance problem ? BillWB6BNQ "bjon...@mindspring.com" wrote: > Nic - I have tried several of each... and even tried using the breakout > box to create a crossover/null modem but no

Re: [time-nuts] Antennas, roofs

2009-02-17 Thread WB6BNQ
given length (within reason). Just some thoughts. BillWB6BNQ Hal Murray wrote: > > I really need to put in a feed through to the roof because my Z3801A > > is struggling with an indoor antenna too; but the roof needs to get > > replaced first... > > Speaki

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt temperature sensor

2009-02-07 Thread WB6BNQ
Ulrich, The problem is the software structure is different for the DS18S20. So the Tbolt would not know what to do with it. BillWB6BNQ Ulrich Bangert wrote: > Mark, > > in this case the DS1620 may perhaps be exchanged against a DS18S20 which > definitely supports the high

Re: [time-nuts] Isotemp OCXO36-54M pinout needed

2009-01-21 Thread WB6BNQ
Corby, My BAD ! I got as far as the word ISOTEMP and failed to pay attention to the part number. Sorry about that. BillWB6BNQ WB6BNQ wrote: > Hi Corby, > > Took a while to find it, but I knew I had uploaded the data. Half way down > this page from KO4BB's

Re: [time-nuts] Isotemp OCXO36-54M pinout needed

2009-01-21 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Corby, Took a while to find it, but I knew I had uploaded the data. Half way down this page from KO4BB's site. http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=05)_GPS_Timing BillWB6BNQ Corby Dawson wrote: > Hi, > > I bought an Isotemp OCXO36-54M a couple years ago on eB

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic question...

2009-01-19 Thread WB6BNQ
Dave, I would think the immigration people in the UK would probably have some idea in that regard. At least it would not hurt to ask them. BillWB6BNQ Dave Ackrill wrote: > Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting > friends in Canada and USA on Friday

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread WB6BNQ
Another place to find it is in old Motorola two-way radio high power VHF amplifiers. These amplifiers used a solid metal anode and the the tubes were clamped up against a beryllium block (white square about 3/4 inch) that was attached to a heat sink. BillWB6BNQ

Re: [time-nuts] LPRO-101

2009-01-11 Thread WB6BNQ
Steve, I am pretty sure he meant lifting off of the surface that the unit would be sitting on; i.e., the bench. BillWB6BNQ Steve Rooke wrote: > 2009/1/12 Hal Murray : > > > You can get slightly better cooling if you turn it on its side/end, or lift > > the fins off

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO time constant

2009-01-08 Thread WB6BNQ
e. The lift pads we used were about 30cm in diameter. 1 psi (7kPa) lifts about 50kg. Moving around 1 ton things with 4 pads wasn't unusual. The rougher the floor, the more airflow you need. James, Do you have any web sites that show such a contration using leaf

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Leap Log

2009-01-01 Thread WB6BNQ
then you have the ability to have a normal Email service account through AT&T. So my question is why are you restricting yourself to such limited means as WEB mail ? Particularly when better processes are available no matter how F-upped Billy G and Microsoft are. Bill....WB6BNQ Mark Si

Re: [time-nuts] Need schoolin PPM vs E to the umth?

2008-12-31 Thread WB6BNQ
elf. BillWB6BNQ "Ed, k1ggi" wrote: > Chris - > > To help avoid too much confusion, it needs to be pointed out that this 'E' > notation gets used somewhat imprecisely in context, and you have to read > "what they meant" rather than "what the

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Levelled sine wave generator

2008-12-15 Thread WB6BNQ
Bruce Griffiths wrote: > WB6BNQ wrote: > > Bruce Griffiths wrote: > > > > > >> Magnus Danielson wrote: > >> > >>> Bruce Griffiths skrev: > >>> > >>> > >>>> David C. Partridge wrote: > >>&g

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Levelled sine wave generator

2008-12-15 Thread WB6BNQ
own. I'm sure Bruce can elaborate some on that. > > > > One possible issue would be that input impedance could mess things up. > > So maybe one should consider making quadrature readings in the head such > > that with some processing the propper level can be given considering the > > impedance mismatch. For the intended repeatability this might be > > something to consider. > > > > Cheers, > > Magnus > > > > > > Since the oscillator is intended for oscilloscope scope calibration the > leveling detector can operate with a fixed input level and an attenuator > can be used to set the output level. > A resistive splitter will have a wider operating frequency range than > most alternatives. > > Diode detectors using a pair of matched diodes can be very stable. > NIST once used an elaborate coaxial dual diode differential RF detector > arrangement complete with temperature stabilisation. > > Bruce What about some of the "log" detector made by Analog Devices ? BillWB6BNQ ' ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

[time-nuts] Bruce's postings {was} Sub Pico Second Phase logger

2008-12-10 Thread WB6BNQ
Mike, The biggest problem with Bruce's postings is that he does not leave any damn space between the OLD data and his NEW data. So you spend an unusual amount of time mentally separating what is going on. Very frustrating ! BillWB6BNQ Mike Feher wrote: > I am now, and actually h

Re: [time-nuts] Cesium tube ion pumps

2008-12-03 Thread WB6BNQ
, unless I misunderstand something, it seems that there may have been a problem with tube from the start ? Out of curiousity, perhaps Corby can enlighten us on that aspect ? BillWB6BNQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Corby, > > AT what point would be approp to call symmetricom and complain about

Re: [time-nuts] any way to bootstrap a frequency standard, into a, voltage or resistance standard?

2008-11-29 Thread WB6BNQ
a measurement method was followed. It does not necessarily mean a direct comparison was made with NIST. Many people I have talked to have a misconception wrapped around this phrase. BillWB6BNQ Ed Palmer wrote: > Bill, > > I agree with the comments made by you and everyone else

Re: [time-nuts] any way to bootstrap a frequency standard into a, voltage or resistance standard?

2008-11-28 Thread WB6BNQ
it would take to do a Josephson array and still have money left over to fund that divorce. BillWB6BNQ Ed Palmer wrote: > It's nowhere near the idea of a Josephson array, but if a NIST-traceable 10V > +-10uV reference is good enough to satisfy your voltage-nut urges, you can &g

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO using 100Hz

2008-11-26 Thread WB6BNQ
Bruce Griffiths wrote: > 4) Obsession > > Bruce Bruce, I think you are confused. #4 is the name of a perfume ! Bill....WB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [time-nuts] huntron tracker advice & troubleshooting withoutschematic advise

2008-11-25 Thread WB6BNQ
et quite complicated at times, but you can still grasp some form of understanding from them. The spec sheets for various ICs have quite a bit of educational value, especially from the better companies like Analog Devices, Maxim and others like them. BillWB6BNQ Patrick wrote: >

Re: [time-nuts] Rb lamp lifetime...

2008-11-18 Thread WB6BNQ
Yuri Ostry wrote: > Hello, > > Sunday, November 2, 2008, 6:31:32, WB6BNQ wrote: > > W> Hi Yuri, > > W> Unless you need the longer term stability of an undisciplined Rb source, I > think > W> you would be better served to get one of the “Timenuts group” Trim

Re: [time-nuts] Oh the horror

2008-11-17 Thread WB6BNQ
Magnus Danielson wrote: > > What else shines pink at all times when operated? > > Cheers, > Magnus - lacks H-maser... > I think I will leave that one alone ! BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Checking the Frequency of a Rubidium Oscillator

2008-11-11 Thread WB6BNQ
GEEZ, After all this discussion, it sounds like he should consider 2 Cs space devices, one main and a secondary. BillWB6BNQ Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson writes: > > > Once doppler bin and phase has been achieved for each PRN

Re: [time-nuts] Rb lamp lifetime...

2008-11-02 Thread WB6BNQ
areful measurement, extremely careful adjustment and good records would allow it being used as high quality portable standard if it is kept hot the whole time during its use. BillWB6BNQ "Richard W. Solomon" wrote: > I am confused (a normal state). > Why would locking an exte

Re: [time-nuts] Rb lamp lifetime...

2008-11-01 Thread WB6BNQ
Yuri, Sorry about that, but I guess the Trimble Thunderbolts are out of stock all ready. BillWB6BNQ WB6BNQ wrote: > Hi Yuri, > > Unless you need the longer term stability of an undisciplined Rb source, I > think > you would be better served to get one of the “Timenuts

Re: [time-nuts] Rb lamp lifetime...

2008-11-01 Thread WB6BNQ
crystal oscillator would most likely last longer with fewer problems. I have several +40 year old hp counters with decent oscillators still operating. BillWB6BNQ Yuri Ostry wrote: > Hello, > > Readed list archives and googled a lot, and seen two opposing points of > view - one i

Re: [time-nuts] Question on crystal jumps

2008-10-23 Thread WB6BNQ
ty of the oscillator. Of course, if you are a purist then nothing but the best is good enough. BillWB6BNQ Bob Q wrote: > So why would they not show the same kind of jumps as plain OCXO's? Rick K. > mentioned atomic standards avoid jumps. > Bob Q. > - Original Message

Re: [time-nuts] Question on crystal jumps

2008-10-23 Thread WB6BNQ
swers your question ? BillWB6BNQ Bob Q wrote: > Do rubidium standards use an OCXO? > Bob Q. > > - Original Message - > From: "Rick Karlquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > > Sent: W

Re: [time-nuts] Sulzer Labs D-5 oscillator

2008-10-11 Thread WB6BNQ
properly write, whether it is a formal letter or an informal note. An Email is a letter ! All the "do - dad" shorts for smiling and such (none of which I have learned) allow people to forget how to describe, more accurately with words,

Re: [time-nuts] Sulzer Labs D-5 oscillator

2008-10-10 Thread WB6BNQ
Paul, Send me a photo as well please. I have a Sulzer 1150 5MHz oscillator and am curious if it looks the same. BillWB6BNQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Kimberley wrote: > Paul can you send me a photo of your oscillator? > > Cheers > > Rob Kimberley > > -Original Messag

Re: [time-nuts] Testing frequency using NTP Bruce GPS ps

2008-10-03 Thread WB6BNQ
nce device and much of that can be mitigated with careful record keeping during its trip. In the case of the "FMS" you mentioned, the only difference is the devices being compared are not being moved. The same methodology still applies however. BillWB6BNQ _

Re: [time-nuts] AC Connector On HP 5061B

2008-10-03 Thread WB6BNQ
test equipment is important? > > /tvb Hi Tom, Your absolutely right. The only two places that I can think of, off hand, would be televison and RADAR (systems with multiple terminals). BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@f

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Monitor (Didier Juges)

2008-09-13 Thread WB6BNQ
or FPGAs (for which I have no knowledge) but much more effort dealing with the ADCs and such. Well seems that way to me anyhow. Mainly I was really trying to get people to see that it should be a group effort. Otherwise you have 3 or 4 people duplicating the wheel so to speak. If those 3 or 4 c

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Monitor CLARIFICATION

2008-09-13 Thread WB6BNQ
To clarify item 3 Item 3 came across unclear after reading it again. What was meant was a third channel to compare either of the two mentioned House Standards to a third device without interrupting the two primary control channels referred to in item 1. BillWB6BNQ

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Monitor (Didier Juges)

2008-09-13 Thread WB6BNQ
a lengthy diatribe. BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Neville, In all seriousness, I thought the Rubidium physics package is heated for reasons. Now that you are heat sinking it, what has happened to the current draw for the whole unit ? Or am I misunderstanding something ? BillWB6BNQ Neville Michie wrote: > Hi, > I hav

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Neville, You said ". . . I mounted a12V 1 watt 40mm brushless DC ball bearing fan, . . " Damn, is that thing turbo charged ? BillWB6BNQ Neville Michie wrote: > Hi, > I have just commissioned a temperature control for my LPRO rubidium > oscillator. > When I re

Re: [time-nuts] 5371A problem

2008-09-06 Thread WB6BNQ
Bill, Are you sure that they are not suppose to be there ? In otherwords like a minor axis/division indicator ? Just a thought. BillWB6BNQ wje wrote: > The dot are aligned horizontally, only a single scan line per set of > dots. However, this only shows up in graph mode, not

Re: [time-nuts] Help with HP 8640B generator

2008-09-05 Thread WB6BNQ
roups of these cubicles for access. BillWB6BNQ "Lux, James P" wrote: > In a message dated 05/09/2008 05:23:56 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > Trivia: The engineer who designed that chip for HP 35 years ago has the > cubicle next to me at Agilent

Re: [time-nuts] Chinese Time Station

2008-08-29 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Bill, You're right there are two US stations on the HF band, WWV and WWVH. I was generically referring to them both. Although in my mind I did not really think of WWVH per se. In either case neither WWV or WWVH were not there in any recognizable strength. BillWB6BNQ Bill Hawkins

[time-nuts] Chinese Time Station

2008-08-29 Thread WB6BNQ
Of course I have Googled and sure enough BPM is the Chinese time station. Haven’t chased after QSL cards in a long time. This is one I sure am going to request and see what happens. Bill....WB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Re Phil's Fluke Monotronics equipment

2008-08-28 Thread WB6BNQ
unately, I have not found a manual or even a reference to it anywhere on the WEB or at surplkus places offering books. BillWB6BNQ Dave M wrote: > Phil, > I'm a new subscriber to this forum. I saw that you have a manual for the > Montronics 103A comparator. I have one of these an

[time-nuts] Laser Temperature System

2008-08-22 Thread WB6BNQ
ment. Not likely possible. BillWB6BNQ Mike Monett wrote: Bruce Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Max > A capacitance bridge using a transformer would be a lot more > stable than merely using the capacitance to vary th

Re: [time-nuts] Restoring GR 1120-AB Frequency Standard - Needassist...

2008-08-19 Thread WB6BNQ
es it would not be a proper restoration at that point. BillWB6BNQ WB6BNQ wrote: Hello Russ, Well, depending upon the size requirement of the thermal switch, I would consider trying to retro-fit. One company that makes such things is TEMP

Re: [time-nuts] Restoring GR 1120-AB Frequency Standard - Needassist...

2008-08-19 Thread WB6BNQ
data on the variable model and the one I was thinking of (second item) which is the surface mount model. BillWB6BNQ Bill WB6BNQ wrote: Hello Russ, Well, depending upon the size requirement of the thermal switch, I would consider trying to retro-fit

Re: [time-nuts] Restoring GR 1120-AB Frequency Standard - Need

2008-08-19 Thread WB6BNQ
Mark, I think you missed the point ! He was not necessarily trying to use it as a frequency standard. He said he was trying to RESTORE it, including making it work ! BillWB6BNQ Mark Sims wrote: The original thermoswitch sounds like is is a mechanical switch, so

Re: [time-nuts] Restoring GR 1120-AB Frequency Standard - Need assist...

2008-08-19 Thread WB6BNQ
for #1 or #2 questions, I would think of those as a last ditch effort. BillWB6BNQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the last stage of restoring a 1964 General Radio Frequency Standard Model 1120-AB. I'm having trouble getting the inner oven to work propoerly an

Re: [time-nuts] Designing and building an OCXO and GPSDO

2008-08-10 Thread WB6BNQ
ompensated crystal oscillators easily handle that level. With care, a crystal oscillator in a well designed circuit can reach parts in 10^-8 with a bit-bang oven control. HP did that in the late 1950's. From that point the difficulty is logarithmic. BillWB6BNQ Phi

Re: [time-nuts] How to get 32.768KHz from 10MHz.

2008-07-23 Thread WB6BNQ
. BillWB6BNQ Mike S wrote: At 05:42 PM 7/23/2008, Bruce Griffiths wrote... >Another approach is to divide the 10MHz by 5^7 (78125) and then use an > >injection locked multiplier chain to generate 32768 Hz from the >resultant 128Hz output. >It m

[time-nuts] 32.768KHz from a DDS

2008-07-23 Thread WB6BNQ
Analog Devices program after setting the filter factors. I certainly am no expert but the Elliptical filter, which I have some small familiarity with, seemed to be the best choice for the frequency range. BillWB6BNQ References 1. http://designtools.analog.com/dtDDSWeb/dtDDSMain.aspx

Re: [time-nuts] HP58504A antenna

2008-07-21 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Bruce, I looked at that also. Using OPERA browser I can zoom in really well and at 400 % you can just make out the trace under the coating and other stuff obscuring the view. BillWB6BNQ Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Jose Manuel wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I´d like

Re: [time-nuts] HP58504A antenna

2008-07-21 Thread WB6BNQ
guess would be that the antenna might be working correctly. So I would not be shorting anything out without getting a lot more information first. Is there anyone else in your area that has such a system that you could compare with ? Good luck, 73BillWB6BNQ Jose Manuel wrote: > He

Re: [time-nuts] Double ovened 10811-60158 on ebay

2008-07-19 Thread WB6BNQ
Did it occur to anyone that possibly these units where intended to be used in some very cold country, like the top of Alaska or some similar place wheere a little additional help was necessary ? ? ? Just a thought . . . BillWB6BNQ Ed Palmer wrote: > > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:35:38

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency divider design critique request

2008-07-10 Thread WB6BNQ
so either one can be used and stick out a panel. Dave ? Dave ? Why are you unplugging my internet feee BillWB6BNQ "David C. Partridge" wrote: > As I've mentioned before, I've been working on the design of a frequency > divider to go with my TB. > >

Re: [time-nuts] Phil's Fluke Monotronics equipment

2008-06-17 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Phil, Yes, I just got done with it. This unit looks very much like the TRACOR 527. Quite nice ! BillWB6BNQ phil wrote: > Bill did you click on that "Download Specs" link on that page. A PDF of more > detail. > > - Original Message - > From: "WB

Re: [time-nuts] Phil's Fluke Monotronics equipment

2008-06-17 Thread WB6BNQ
Phil, I had never seen a picture before. The 103 is much more envolved than the 100A. The 100A does not have meters, for example. Thanks for the link, BillWB6BNQ phil wrote: > Bill, > For specs, Tucker Still sells it. > http://www.planettest.com

Re: [time-nuts] Phil's Fluke Monotronics equipment

2008-06-16 Thread WB6BNQ
output BNC's for driving a scope or chart machine, etc.. When you get the chance, I, and I'm sure, others would appreciate it, thanks. BillWB6BNQ phil wrote: > Bill, > Just looked and it's Fluke/Montronics model 103A > It's a big manual if I recall, about the same

Re: [time-nuts] Phil's Fluke Monotronics equipment

2008-06-16 Thread WB6BNQ
your consideration. BillWB6BNQ phil wrote: > Going from memory, I think it's a 103. Yes I have the manuals for all that > stuff I have. > > - Original Message - > From: "WB6BNQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion of precise time and fre

[time-nuts] Phil's Fluke Monotronics equipment

2008-06-16 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Phil, I am curious about your statement, below, concerning the separate Fluke comparator. Is it the Fluke Montronics model 100 ? If so, I have one of those and am wondering if you have the manual for it ? Thanks, BillWB6BNQ phil wrote: > Speaking of the 207, is there any demand

Re: [time-nuts] New member, and HP 5061A question

2008-06-16 Thread WB6BNQ
Bill, The following URL should allow you to search the archives: http://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/ BillWB6BNQ wje wrote: > Actually, one more question - is there any way to search the list > archives? Either I'm blind, or there's not, or it's not obvious. >

Re: [time-nuts] quick and very dirty phase comparator

2008-06-04 Thread WB6BNQ
possible to use cascading DDS chips, one providing the clock for the other. What are the thoughts on such an approach ? BillWB6BNQ Ulrich Bangert wrote: > Bruce, > > > Even a DDS followed by a PLL cleanup loop (10811 plus analog PD etc.) > > should work well although wi

Re: [time-nuts] "Piezo Little Wonder" OCXO

2008-05-30 Thread WB6BNQ
above suggested before on this forum. However, I do not know what receiver would fit the scenario. BillWB6BNQ Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi Rick: > > 10.23 MHz shows up in the ICD-200 spec on how the GPS signal is generated. > > I've got a GPS sig gen see: > http://www.p

Re: [time-nuts] Brooke's Valpey picture

2008-05-23 Thread WB6BNQ
Gee Brooke, If you made the picture any bigger it would not have fit on my screen. 73BillWB6BNQ Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi Randy: > > Those appear to be the very common 14 pin dip IC oscillators. > pin 7 = ground > pin 14 = Vdd > pin 8 = Out > pin 1 may be no

Re: [time-nuts] Another query on the 5065A

2008-05-14 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Jim, I would have to look in the manual to be 100%, but for 90%, I think the "synchronize" button is just to synchronize the 1pps pulse with an external 1pps reference. It is a clock (i.e., time) function NOT a frequency function. BillWB6BNQ "Palfreyman, Jim L"

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B - DEFINITIONS

2008-05-10 Thread WB6BNQ
vided resolution. Accuracy addresses how well a measurement coincides with an acceptably understood and agreed upon reference. BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listin

Re: [time-nuts] Handar INC WWV receiver

2008-02-17 Thread WB6BNQ
Stanley, We will be looking forward to schematics and full firmware listing by next Friday. 73BillWB6BNQ Stanley Reynolds wrote: > Update the receiver is working not sure if it is decoding time but powered it > up and was able to hear WWV. > > (1) Brown R14 100K to B+ &

Re: [time-nuts] Handar INC WWV receiver

2008-02-16 Thread WB6BNQ
rmat >and another link to describe the rest of the modulation format. The >modulation format will give you the blueprint that your receiver follows to >derive its functions. Other menu selections are interesting to, such as their history page. Good luck, BillWB6BNQ Stanley Reyno

[time-nuts] TVB's accuracy/stability statement

2008-02-14 Thread WB6BNQ
d. Sure, you can adjust the accuracy of this singular standard, but how long is it going to stay there ? If the accuracy of the adjustment doesn't stay put, then that adjustment means little. So, the question is how do you make a stand-a-lone standard more accurate the

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 43, Issue 35

2008-02-14 Thread WB6BNQ
d. Sure, you can adjust the accuracy of this singular standard, but how long is it going to stay there ? If the accuracy of the adjustment doesn't stay put, then that adjustment means little. So, the question is how do you make a stand-a-lone standard more accurate the

Re: [time-nuts] gps timing antennas

2008-02-13 Thread WB6BNQ
WB6BNQ Brian Kirby wrote: > The Motorola Timing 2000 and 3000 antennas are patch antennas. They > have a pointed radome. The have very little ground plane, which reduces > reception near the ground, which is desirable because of multipath > effects.They also have quite a bit of f

[time-nuts] David Welch's 3 block signal

2008-02-13 Thread WB6BNQ
FM and perhaps other modes. Don't forget that WWV also transmits on 2.5, 5 and 15 MHz. 15 MHz is good during mid day and 5 MHz is quite good at night time. 2.5 MHz is only good at night and a little tough to copy unless you have a good antenna or are living quite close to it. BillWB6BNQ

Re: [time-nuts] indoor GPS test.

2008-01-25 Thread WB6BNQ
By the way, If you do get a Garmin 15, make sure it is the "H" or "L" model which has WAAS. The regular model "15," which is cheaper, does not have WAAS. BillWB6BNQ WB6BNQ wrote: > If you go to the Garmin web site and look at their OEM page, you can or

Re: [time-nuts] indoor GPS test.

2008-01-25 Thread WB6BNQ
n GPS unit developed a failure. I was using my main unit to drive my laptop software for mapping purposes. The Garmin 15 will replace it. BillWB6BNQ Hal Murray wrote: > > The GPS 18 from Garmin is ~130 list, since ti comes with some software > > for a laptop. > > You want th

Re: [time-nuts] Spec An for phase noise measurements

2008-01-21 Thread WB6BNQ
dollars. If you invest in a nice 8662A instead -- or even an 8640B! -- you > can use your *existing* 8596E to make measurements 30-40 dB below what even > the 8560E series can do. > > --- snip --- > > -- john, KE5FX Hi John, How does a HP-8660C compare to the HP-8662 and H

Re: [time-nuts] Precision AC source - build one ?

2007-12-25 Thread WB6BNQ
Hello Randy, Can you give more information on the equipment you are trying to calibrate ? For example the make and model and what level of accuracy you expect to reach. What is your intended use of this equipment, i.e., general hobby use or more serious purposes ? BillWB6BNQ Randy

Re: [time-nuts] Counter display resolution

2007-12-22 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Mike, Thanks for the explanation. As I do not own a "reciprocal" counter, I was unfamilar or had forgotten the issue you described. "Reciprocal" was the missing link ! BillWB6BNQ Mike Feher wrote: > Bill - > > Sorry if I was vague. I am assuming that

[time-nuts] Counter display resolution

2007-12-22 Thread WB6BNQ
solution by being slightly lower then or any loss by being higher then some arbitrary point. For the sake of the less skilled that might be on the list -server, could you explain in more clear detail what you were eluding to ? Thank you ... BillWB6BNQ Mike Feher wrote: > Bob - > > W

Re: [time-nuts] Ronald Held's main question

2007-12-18 Thread WB6BNQ
have, somewhere, the actual paper article about the second one with schematics, etc.. BillWB6BNQ Hal Murray wrote: > > Here are 3 Hewlett Packard appnotes that are in the same vain as the > > NBS 140 booklet. In many ways these HP items are better written. The > > first

Re: [time-nuts] Ronald Held's main question

2007-12-17 Thread WB6BNQ
shelf. http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5989-6171EN.pdf http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5989-6183EN.pdf http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5989-6247EN.pdf BillWB6BNQ WB6BNQ wrote: > Hi Ronald, > > This list server is composed of three general c

[time-nuts] Ronald Held's main question

2007-12-17 Thread WB6BNQ
spending money and physical effort that may not be necessary, please read through the 3 above references to determine if you really want to get involved to the level of additional hardware and expense. BillWB6BNQ Ronald Held wrote: > Since the moving option is out, perhaps I need to in

Re: [time-nuts] Super Regulator links

2007-12-13 Thread WB6BNQ
ous measurements, so don't this at home. I find that completely disingenuous. BillWB6BNQ Bruce Griffiths wrote: > John Miles wrote: > > What are some of your favorite low-noise regulators? When I made the remark > > about the uA723, I was specifically thinking of its perfo

Re: [time-nuts] Entry Level Systems Revisited

2007-12-13 Thread WB6BNQ
eap) oscillator locked to the GPS provides the basics allowing for very inexpensive counters and other inexpensive devices to provide a degree of comfort. BillWB6BNQ "Michael J. Dyer" wrote: > I've been researching an entry-level system for my own learning and > expe

Re: [time-nuts] need recomendation for a portable 10mhz referenceoscilator

2007-12-13 Thread WB6BNQ
needed. Or it became way too passionate and scared him off. Well Eric, what say you ? ? ? BillWB6BNQ Eric Fort wrote: > I'm looking for a fairly basic, relatively simple 10 Mhz PORTABLE > reference (probably quartz based) with enough stability over a period > of a week of outdoor

Re: [time-nuts] need recomendation for a portable 10mhz referenceoscilator

2007-12-11 Thread WB6BNQ
quiet" drive source. BillWB6BNQ Eric Fort wrote: > I'm looking for a fairly basic, relatively simple 10 Mhz PORTABLE > reference (probably quartz based) with enough stability over a period > of a week of outdoor temp extremes to keep a 47Ghz transmitter locked > with

Re: [time-nuts] Watches - the china connection

2007-12-04 Thread WB6BNQ
should be up front and put their own name on the product instead of those who they copy. BillWB6BNQ Chuck Harris wrote: > Hi Bill, > > I guess it depends on what you think it is that the market is > desiring. > > There is little or no apparent interest in a newly manufactured

[time-nuts] Watches - the china connection

2007-12-04 Thread WB6BNQ
some extent and are not paying attention to the market. BillWB6BNQ Chuck Harris wrote: > The Spaceview is the Accutron model that everyone seems to want (even I want > one), > so much so that the Chinese are now making the necessary reproduction parts to > convert a model with a

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C antenna

2007-11-12 Thread WB6BNQ
pages worth looking at as a starter. The first would be the "LORAN-C User handbook" and then the "LORAN-C Signal Spec" links. BillWB6BNQ Didier Juges wrote: > I get this (see picture) with the spectrum analyzer and my wire antenna. > That looks a lot cleaner than

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread WB6BNQ
e line shift using a DC source adjusted to the same level of the AC signal on the scope screen. With careful comparison you could do a little better then 3 %. That may be all you need to "check" yourself for sanity. BillWB6BNQ An old, used and tired EX-metrologist Joe McElvenne

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread WB6BNQ
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Brook, You could try using a 74123 (or newer variants) retriggerable one shot to extend the pulse width to a level that would allow you to see it on the scope. BillWB6BNQ Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi: > > Whi

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-02 Thread WB6BNQ
isters to a static register loaded with the wanted value. This loop was read to just -1x10^6. With this scheme the granularity is obviously the +/- LSB count, not counting the time base error. BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-08-31 Thread WB6BNQ
the counter to your GPSDO box if there is not enough room for the GSPDO parts inside. BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread WB6BNQ
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi brooke, The Windows control program link did not work. Can you explain, a little bit, about the program on your web page, besides here. thanks 73BillWB6BNQ Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi: > > Scott will co

Re: [time-nuts] Time may not exist

2007-07-27 Thread WB6BNQ
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom, Very interesting concept ! But I do not think the business world is going to buy it. BillWB6BNQ Tom Clifton wrote: > Just to stir the pot a little - I'm providing a link > to Discover magazine - a tome of g

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