Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-25 Thread N1BUG
On 07/24/2012 08:14 PM, KAZeringue wrote: > @N1BUG. > > The WD1A is fairly tough, ~200lbs break strength. Tie it to the > supports/trees/insulators/whatevah with a single strand of 20-25lb test > monofiliment fishing line. Tree falls on WD1A, maybe you then need only > replace monofiliment fi

Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-24 Thread KAZeringue
@N1BUG. The WD1A is fairly tough, ~200lbs break strength. Tie it to the supports/trees/insulators/whatevah with a single strand of 20-25lb test monofiliment fishing line. Tree falls on WD1A, maybe you then need only replace monofiliment fishing line supports to re hang the wire instead o

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-22 Thread Bill Wichers
berry Messaging] From: ZR To: Bill Wichers; topband@contesting.com Sent: Sun Jul 22 10:29:56 2012 Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects Of course it stretches if its stressed but it also adds to the total strength. I would expect the WD-11A and the n

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-22 Thread ZR
- From: Bill Wichers To: z...@jeremy.mv.com ; w...@w8ji.com ; topband@contesting.com Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects Typical "fishing line" is made of nylon. Nylon will stretch far more than the steel in the WD-11A a

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-22 Thread ZR
ngest concentrate of Roundup so far just on ground brush and poison ivy. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: "N1BUG" To: Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 8:29 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects > On 07/20/2012 07:07 PM, ZR wrote: >> If the WD-11A

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-22 Thread N1BUG
On 07/20/2012 07:07 PM, ZR wrote: > If the WD-11A is so weak and a repair problem why not support it on one of > the higher strength fishing lines as a messenger? Just a clarification here: WD1A is plenty strong until a behemoth tree falls on it and breaks it. The splice then leads to a new fail

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-22 Thread N1BUG
On 07/20/2012 12:59 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: > This is exactly the problem I have with Wireman stranded ~400 ohm ladder > line. After a few years, if water gets inside, conductors rust through. If water gets into WD1A, the three steel strands rust through in less than 6 months. Sometimes much less. T

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-21 Thread Bill Wichers
Messaging] - Original Message - From: topband-boun...@contesting.com To: Tom W8JI ; topband@contesting.com Sent: Fri Jul 20 19:07:45 2012 Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects If the WD-11A is so weak and a repair problem why not support it on one of the higher strength fishi

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread ZR
If the WD-11A is so weak and a repair problem why not support it on one of the higher strength fishing lines as a messenger? Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: "Tom W8JI" To: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/20/2012 8:43 AM, donov...@starpower.net wrote: > A time domain reflectometer (TDR) allows you to check all major components > (feedline, transformer antenna and termination) of your Beverage antenna from > the comfort of your hamshack. Yeah, but when it's broke, you still gotta crawl up and

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread Bill Wichers
to:guyk...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 2:41 PM To: Bill Wichers Cc: N1BUG; Topband Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects Roger that, but not sure I want to use acetone on clothes if it etches plastic. Lot of cloth has synthetic thread

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Roger that, but not sure I want to use acetone on clothes if it etches plastic. Lot of cloth has synthetic thread blend in the fabric. Thanks for the tip.73, Guy On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Bill Wichers wrote: > You can clean up silicone residue using acetone. Acetone will etch many >

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread Bill Wichers
You can clean up silicone residue using acetone. Acetone will etch many plastics though so test it on the material you want to clean before using it. -Bill > Whatever you do, don't get it on your eyeglasses' lens. Be careful not to > get the stuff on your clothes, or spread it around on thing

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread Mike Waters
That is crazy! It sounds like they're using something like MIG welding wire. I thought I'd heard everything. Another potential issue I see with wire like that is that the RF is bound to penetrate that ultra-thin copper layer into the magnetic steel. (Boys and girls, can you say "eddy current losse

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread Tom W8JI
>A time domain reflectometer (TDR) allows you to check all major components >(feedline, transformer antenna and termination) of your Beverage antenna >from the comfort of your hamshack. > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL I do that with my MFJ-259. :-) Sweep a wide range and look at peaks and nulls, or use

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread Tom W8JI
> However, single wire Beverages are out. The only way I can have > Beverages in more than a couple of directions (south, southwest, and > west) is to make them reversible. All feeds have to be on the end > that is on high ground so that leaves two-wire Beverages with a > reflection transformer at

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
When you replace the blade connectors, first solder them in place and them wipe them all over with automotive silicone grease, leaving a thin layer, using a small stiff artist's brush. Then push them together. Available from any automotive store. The stuff seems to be close to eternal. Whatever

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread N1BUG
On 07/20/2012 11:09 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > I understand why Paul does what he does. If your Beverages run through > rough terrain, as mine do, it can be a real challenge to walk the > Beverage to check and repair it. And as I get older it gets tougher. :) Mine run through very rough, uneven, stee

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread donovanf
t;Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects >To: topband@contesting.com > >On 7/20/2012 5:50 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: >> Then the wire break does not hurt a thing. It always breaks the Beverage, >> and the ends never pull on anything. > >I understand why Paul does

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread Missouri Guy
Hi Paul, > My Beverages run through forest. Falling trees caused many wire > breaks and high maintenance until I started using strain disconnects > > at all ends. I use a "fuse" link of #18 soft copper wire between the > > end insulator and the support pole/tree. That's good. Better tha

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/20/2012 5:50 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: > Then the wire break does not hurt a thing. It always breaks the Beverage, > and the ends never pull on anything. I understand why Paul does what he does. If your Beverages run through rough terrain, as mine do, it can be a real challenge to walk the Bevera

Re: Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread Tom W8JI
> My Beverages run through forest. Falling trees caused many wire > breaks and high maintenance until I started using strain disconnects > at all ends. I use a "fuse" link of #18 soft copper wire between the > end insulator and the support pole/tree. I use good end insulators, and bring the wire d

Topband: Beverage strain auto-disconnects

2012-07-20 Thread N1BUG
Another question. My Beverages run through forest. Falling trees caused many wire breaks and high maintenance until I started using strain disconnects at all ends. I use a "fuse" link of #18 soft copper wire between the end insulator and the support pole/tree. For the Beverage connection to th