Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-07 Thread Bill Wichers
I'm not sure Deer can see the orange color. All the hunting clothing is orange, or "camo orange", and supposedly the other hunters can then see each other but the deer don't see the orange color. Just a thought... You might be better off using red. -Bill > Why solder? > Jus' clean and twist wir

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-07 Thread k3bu
sage - From: Bill McDowell Date: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 4:46 am Subject: Topband: Soldering in the wild! To: Topband Reflector > If one has a conventional soldering iron that is not a gun it is > very easy to carry it and a propane torch to the site. Just > heat the tip with t

Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-07 Thread Bill McDowell
If one has a conventional soldering iron that is not a gun it is very easy to carry it and a propane torch to the site. Just heat the tip with the torch and solder away. Heat will be retained by the tip long enough to get the job done. Reheat if necessary. 73 Bill, K4CIA

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-06 Thread Kenneth Grimm
Thanks to everyone who offered a suggestion about soldering in the wild! I managed to run an extension cord out to one failed section of 450 ohm ladder line and fixed it with my trusty old weller gun. However, I discovered two additional sections on the same antenna that are well beyond the lengt

Topband: Soldering in the wild

2012-08-06 Thread dick-bingham
Hello All Most of my 'soldering in the wild' has used a small gas-fired torch (a BIC lighter works well) but I have often used nothing more than a strike-anywhere match. Try it - you will be pleasantly surprised ! I wrap the knife-scraped-clean-wires together and then wind a length of solder i

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-06 Thread Bill Wichers
Small C-taps are available that can be used as splices. Even the small ones are usually for large(ish) (by antenna standards) wire, generally 8+ gauge. There may be smaller ones available. Common manufacturers are T&B, Burndy, and Panduit. The smaller C-taps can be installed with a mechanical (non-

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-06 Thread Milt -- N5IA
-Original Message- From: kaz Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 9:20 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Soldering in the wild! ---SNIP--- Split bolts can also be found in stainless varieties in case the materials being joined might not like touching copper. Not a great

Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-06 Thread kaz
FWIW, in a pinch I have used an ordinary butane cig lighter to solder small joints. Not ideal, but possible[if its not too windy], and often there will be one in someone's pocket or car. The term 'field expedient' applies. Split bolts can also be found in stainless varieties in case the mate

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-06 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
I believe the whole idea of the split bolt is that, properly tightened, it exerts enough pressure to crush through any existing corrosion and make a joint that is too tight for corrosion to intervene. 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild

2012-08-05 Thread Jim WA9YSD
Wrap one layer of electrical tap with sticky side up on the first layer helps with the mess.   Stay on course, fight a good fight, and keep the faith. Jim K9TF/WA9YSD ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-05 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Then pressure has been enough to keep corrosion from between the clamped items...Thanks, Guy. On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > So far I have not done so. > > Jim > > On 8/5/2012 11:21 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: >> Do you treat the connections with anything for corrosion pro

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild

2012-08-05 Thread Mike Waters
Once I bought my little Mapp gas/oxygen torch, I stopped using a propane torch because I HATE the way the flame changes when you tilt it. For soft-soldering in a remote location, we can adjust it so that it has a tiny flame; and when hard (silver) soldering is more appropriate, we just open the val

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild

2012-08-05 Thread Dave Heil
The original stuff used acetic acid for the curing process. The II variety does not. I still prefer to use it over acrylic spray or especially vinyl tape. That way you don't get it directly on the metal and it is easier to free up if changes are necessary. 73, Dave Heil K8MN On 8/5/2012 14

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-05 Thread Jim Brown
So far I have not done so. Jim On 8/5/2012 11:21 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > Do you treat the connections with anything for corrosion protection, > e.g. silicone grease? 73, Guy > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:31 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >> >I use copper split bolt connectors, both forelectrical and

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild

2012-08-05 Thread Bill Wichers
series and is also available in different colors that I use to color code cable runs. [Sent using Blackberry Messaging] - Original Message - From: topband-boun...@contesting.com To: Tom W8JI Cc: topband Sent: Sun Aug 05 10:47:27 2012 Subject: Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild Hi Guy

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild

2012-08-05 Thread Jim WA9YSD
Tom, what your thinking about GE sealant is that GE first came out with RTV, which was suppose to be the bad stuff cause of the chemicals they used eat at copper.  Back then thats all there was cause the Original Silicone caulk got too hard too brittle too fast. Today silicone caulk thats water

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild

2012-08-05 Thread Eddy Swynar
Hi Guy, The only thing to watch out for---and I don't know if Silicone II Sealant falls into this category, or not---are the corrosive fumes that might be emitted during the curing process... If the "raw" stuff smells a lot like vinegar, beware! I recall one time years ago we erected an after-

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild

2012-08-05 Thread Tom W8JI
> found that GE Silicone II Sealant, which is fine for outside, to work very > well for covering solder joints. > > I've purchased it in many local hardware stores. It runs around $6 per > tube. > > It cures in just a few hours, is rain resistant and does not affect the > solder > joint. > > The

Topband: Soldering in the wild

2012-08-05 Thread Jim Monahan
While I have used either a soldering gun with a long extension cord or a propane torch as others have indicated for some 25 years, I have found that GE Silicone II Sealant, which is fine for outside, to work very well for covering solder joints. I've purchased it in many local hardware stores. It

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Jim Brown
For about five years now, I've gotten to the point of NOT soldering wire antennas at all. Instead I use copper split bolt connectors, both for electrical and mechanical connections. 73, Jim K9YC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Charles Moizeau
. 73, Charles, W2SH > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 19:21:15 -0400 > From: he...@vitelcom.net > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild! > > > By putting a small layer of tape on the connection first, then the > Butyl, and the a mor

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
it a shot. > > -Bill > > [Sent using Blackberry Messaging] > > - Original Message - > From: topband-boun...@contesting.com > To: topband > Sent: Sat Aug 04 13:22:42 2012 > Subject: Topband: Soldering in the wild! > > After suffering through our infamous &quo

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Bill Wichers
lectrical tape needed). I haven't tried it yet myself but it might be worth a look if you want to give it a shot. -Bill [Sent using Blackberry Messaging] - Original Message - From: topband-boun...@contesting.com To: topband Sent: Sat Aug 04 13:22:42 2012 Subject: Topband: Soldering

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Missouri Guy
I use a standard propane torch equipped with a large copper soldering tip. It's an attachment that fits on the end of the torch, and is secured with a small thumb screw. 73, Charlie, N0TT On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 13:22:42 -0400 Kenneth Grimm writes: > After suffering through our infamous "derech

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread N1BUG
I use a soldering iron tip with a regular propane torch. The tip attaches to just about any torch with a setscrew. Slip it over the end of the torch, tighten setscrew. I haven't looked for them recently. I bought this at a local hardware store 30 years ago for about $2 I think. It gets hot enou

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Gary and Kathleen Pearse
Soldering in wild Alaska/KL7. Two hands and a mouth. Wire supported in one hand, butane/propane torch in other, solder roll in the mouth (don't tongue the contents) with a long lead of solder feeding the joint. Face downwind to avoid burns. After suffering numerous heating related failures at

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Bill Cromwell
Hi, The butane soldering tools have been mentioned and I have used them too. For heavier work I had to resort to a regular propane torch. That was for heavy dipole wire and the center conductor of RG-8 up a tower in a blizzard. There is always a way . 73, Bill KU8H

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread ZR
; Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:22 PM Subject: Topband: Soldering in the wild! > After suffering through our infamous "derecho" here in Virginia, I find > that I've got a* lot* of repair work to do on my beverages. Most of the > breaks are in 450 ohm window

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Ken, what I use here to repair field connections is a small handheld butane torch with an adjustable flame. Mine came from eBay for under 10 bucks and uses Benzomatic fuel for refill and does an awesome job. Take along some fine grit sandparer, a wire brush, and some flux. I use flexible but

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Rob Stampfli
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 01:22:42PM -0400, Kenneth Grimm wrote: > After suffering through our infamous "derecho" here in Virginia, I find > that I've got a* lot* of repair work to do on my beverages. Most of the > breaks are in 450 ohm window line, located in remote areas and will require > solderi

Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Bruce
Hi Ken, I use the Ultratorch UT-100Si It works well except when I am mountain topping in a cold wind. (air cooling) Think they have a larger model http://www.masterappliance.com/heat-tool-products/butane-powered/ultratorches/ultratorch-ut-100si 73 Bruce-K1FZ > I need to outfit myself wit

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Mike(W5UC)
On 8/4/2012 12:22 PM, Kenneth Grimm wrote: > After suffering through our infamous "derecho" here in Virginia, I find > that I've got a* lot* of repair work to do on my beverages. Most of the > breaks are in 450 ohm window line, located in remote areas and will require > soldering. My "non-AC elec

Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Kenneth Grimm
After suffering through our infamous "derecho" here in Virginia, I find that I've got a* lot* of repair work to do on my beverages. Most of the breaks are in 450 ohm window line, located in remote areas and will require soldering. My "non-AC electric" soldering equipment seems to have been lost i