Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

2015-02-07 Thread Victor Goncharsky
Garry, In the good old days when I was learning the art of ham radio from Don Miller's DX and contest operations and my Dad UB5WF, I've got an idea of the ham spirit that makes all of us equal under the Sun. This is the corner stone of our hobby - the equality, no matter how much one's paid

Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

2015-02-07 Thread Doug Renwick
The point that Garry is making, he did it very well, is that EU as a group should contribute more than what they are presently doing. And he is right. Doug -Original Message- Garry, In the good old days when I was learning the art of ham radio from Don Miller's DX and contest

Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

2015-02-07 Thread Larry Burke
7:44 AM To: Doug Renwick Cc: Victor Goncharsky; Garry Shapiro; topBand List Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances I turn on the news every day and hear about EU economic woes. What's wrong with the Marshall Plan for DX? Just as NA (not just EU) benefited economically

Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

2015-02-07 Thread Doug Renwick
Tim those are kind thoughts. But let me ask 'how much do you contribute in $. As those who watch our governments see it is easy for them to give away other people's money. EU economic woes are self inflicted! How many times does EU need to be bailed out? Forever? I am not American but I

Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

2015-02-07 Thread Tim Shoppa
I turn on the news every day and hear about EU economic woes. What's wrong with the Marshall Plan for DX? Just as NA (not just EU) benefited economically from the real Marshall plan (I explain it to my kids using their language as a kickstarter for EU-NA trade), NA guys benefit every time an

Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

2015-02-07 Thread Don Greenbaum
are usually everyday. It certainly has an effect on where the QSOs are made. 73, Larry W6NWS -Original Message- From: Doug Renwick Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 8:36 AM To: 'Victor Goncharsky' ; ga...@ni6t.com ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition

Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

2015-02-07 Thread Larry
...@ni6t.com ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances The point that Garry is making, he did it very well, is that EU as a group should contribute more than what they are presently doing. And he is right. Doug -Original Message- Garry

Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

2015-02-06 Thread Garry Shapiro
Dado, When you go to see a film, do you expect your neighbor to buy your ticket? Do you complain when you do not like the film? When you buy a car, do you expect your neighbor to pay the dealer? Do you complain when the car is not perfect? When you go to a restaurant, do you expect your

Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

2015-02-06 Thread Dragoslav Balaban
It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the Q's. That needs to be ironed out. Garry while EU hams are very demanding, they don't do much to contribute to the cost. 73, Jim K9YC Funny that there is no comment abt this??? I also don't think something like

Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

2015-02-06 Thread Fortra
, February 06, 2015 12:55 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the Q's. That needs to be ironed out. Garry while EU hams are very demanding, they don't do much to contribute to the cost