Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-17 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
em. The key is good modem, like a 2wire > > modem, and if that doesn't work, a really sharp roll-off filter. > > > > Tossing iron at the CAT5 cables is OK, but it is not often useful on > > the Telco side. > > > > 73 Tom > > > > - Original Me

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-17 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/17/2012 3:38 AM, N1BUG wrote: > What about the drop from the pole to my NID? That is not twisted. That's likely a contributor. 73, Jim K9YC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on topband

2012-07-17 Thread Keith Jillings (G3OIT)
On 17/07/2012 16:45, Tom Boucher wrote: > On the recommendation of John G3PQA, I recently changed my router from a > D-Link unit to an ADDON NWAR-3670 which appears to have much better RFI > immunity. I'm not getting any dropouts at all now and I do not have an OZ1CTK > type filter in line, jus

Topband: DSL knocks out when on topband

2012-07-17 Thread Tom Boucher
Herb, On the recommendation of John G3PQA, I recently changed my router from a D-Link unit to an ADDON NWAR-3670 which appears to have much better RFI immunity. I'm not getting any dropouts at all now and I do not have an OZ1CTK type filter in line, just some ferrite rings of unknown origin on

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-17 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
. The key is good modem, like a 2wire > modem, and if that doesn't work, a really sharp roll-off filter. > > Tossing iron at the CAT5 cables is OK, but it is not often useful on > the Telco side. > > 73 Tom > > - Original Message - From: "Herb Schoenbohm&qu

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-17 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
With AT&T Uverse I had the experience of adding common mode chokes (#31 ferrite) on a long run of cat 5 and having it knock down the desired signal. The cat 5 is not all that well balanced, and putting the hurts on the unbalance also knocks down the main signal which was marginal to start with. I

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-17 Thread Felipe Ceglia
Hi, I have this knock out problem, tried ferrite beads, ferrite cores, coils, vodoo, black magic... I came to conclusion that some devices are really built not caring for RF exposure. Two different revisions of a Speedstream 2400 modem behave completely different. One could whitstand my 160m TX s

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-17 Thread Tom W8JI
l Message - From: "Herb Schoenbohm" To: "TopBand List" Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 8:57 PM Subject: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand > Fortunately I have a Wi-Max service that is immune from RFI but I > frequently use a DSL service for remote control with guest

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-17 Thread N1BUG
On 07/16/2012 10:26 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > This is a differential mode filter, so it suggests that some or all of > the telco cable feeding the modem isn't twisted pair, or isn't very good > twisted pair. SO -- another solution could be replacing that poor cable > with CAT5, using the pair within t

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-17 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
On 7/16/2012 10:36 PM, W2RU - Bud Hippisley wrote: > Herb (& others) — > > I struggled to keep my 160- and 80-meter RF out of my DSL equipment for a > number of years. Multiple turns of all cables in/out of the DSL modem > (Siemens Speedstream) on #31ferrites, etc. The best progress occurred wh

Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-16 Thread lrpmbt
> My problem is that when I try to operate on 160 the DSL > crashes. I have tried many Type 31 3 inch ferrite rings > with 20 turns on both the phone line and the Cat 5 cable > from the Zhone modem but even at 200 watts the > DSL looses sync. Herb, The problem usually comes from the wal

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-16 Thread W2RU - Bud Hippisley
Herb (& others) — I struggled to keep my 160- and 80-meter RF out of my DSL equipment for a number of years. Multiple turns of all cables in/out of the DSL modem (Siemens Speedstream) on #31ferrites, etc. The best progress occurred when I wrapped the modem in common kitchen aluminum foil and

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-16 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/16/2012 6:10 PM, N1BUG wrote: > I had exactly the same problem, tried the same "cures" you have. The > problem is ADSL uses frequencies up to 1.1 MHz. The modems are > easily overloaded by 1.8 MHz RF. Nothing worked until I built this > simple filter designed by OZ1CTK: Looks great, Paul. Th

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-16 Thread KL7RA
st" Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:57 PM Subject: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand > Fortunately I have a Wi-Max service that is immune from RFI but I > frequently use a DSL service for remote control with guest ops during > contests. The DSL is more reliable in so much is

Re: Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-16 Thread N1BUG
> My problem is that when I try to operate on 160 the DSL > crashes. I have tried many Type 31 3 inch ferrite rings > with 20 turns on both the phone line and the Cat 5 cable > from the Zhone modem but even at 200 watts the > DSL looses sync. Herb, I had exactly the same problem, tried the

Topband: DSL knocks out when on TopBand

2012-07-16 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Fortunately I have a Wi-Max service that is immune from RFI but I frequently use a DSL service for remote control with guest ops during contests. The DSL is more reliable in so much is I get 1.5 Mbps up and down all the time and every time. (The Wi-Max at times gives me CW hick-ups and althou