Re: [Tutor] From Numpy Import *

2007-11-08 Thread Dinesh B Vadhia
Thank-you! It is important for us to avoid potential code conflicts and so we'll standardize on the import syntax. On a related note: We are using both NumPy and SciPy. Consider the example y = Ax where A is a sparse matrix. If A is qualified as a scipy object then do y and x also have to

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
This is why I am going for programming instead of just CS. I am a very hands on person.. although I know theory is good.. I just think it needs to be evened out a bit :D. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tuto

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread christopher . henk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/08/2007 05:19:59 PM: > "Chris Calloway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > > teach languages. Teaching languages is frowned upon in some computer > > science departments under the logic that if you belong in a computer > > science class, you'd better show up for class alr

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread Alan Gauld
"Chris Calloway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > teach languages. Teaching languages is frowned upon in some computer > science departments under the logic that if you belong in a computer > science class, you'd better show up for class already knowing > something > as easy to grasp as an implementat

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread wesley chun
apologies... meant to click the "save now" button but inadvertently hit "send" instead... > On 11/8/07, bhaaluu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another way to judge how the book is, is by reading the posts the author > > sends to THIS list in order to help people. Mr. Chun and Mr. Gauld are > > two

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread wesley chun
> I wonder what schools offer python as a course. Sadly all the > colleges here offer only perl. Danyelle's question brings up an issue i have, and that is that courses in colleges are typically "computer science" courses, at least at the university level. there really aren't any "programming la

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread Chris Calloway
Danyelle Gragsone wrote: > I wonder what schools offer python as a course. It has been rather widely publicized of late that MIT this year switched all their incoming computer science and electrical engineering students to Python (from Lisp) as their introductory programming language. They use

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread Alan Gauld
"Michael H. Goldwasser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >>to suffer through it). But for others, studying on their own, >> being able >>to read a sample chapter and look at the example source code >> might >>be the stimulus to buy the book > > Thats a great idea. I'll contact our publishe

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread Michael H. Goldwasser
On Thursday November 8, 2007, bhaaluu wrote: >I asked if the source code for the textbook is available for download? >One of the best ways to judge the quality of a textbook is by the example >source code. I also asked if a sample chapter was available to read? >Sometimes an auth

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
I wonder what schools offer python as a course. Sadly all the colleges here offer only perl. :( ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread bhaaluu
On Nov 8, 2007 9:33 AM, Kent Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Danyelle Gragsone wrote: > > It look great.. but being a student I can't afford such a high priced > > item. I guess I will have to wait for the used copies to show up on > > amazon :). > > FWIW this book is available to anyone with

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread Kent Johnson
Danyelle Gragsone wrote: > It look great.. but being a student I can't afford such a high priced > item. I guess I will have to wait for the used copies to show up on > amazon :). FWIW this book is available to anyone with a .edu email address for $71.53 plus shipping, from http://www.a1books.co

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
It look great.. but being a student I can't afford such a high priced item. I guess I will have to wait for the used copies to show up on amazon :). Danyelle ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Elegant argument index sort

2007-11-08 Thread Kent Johnson
Dinesh B Vadhia wrote: > I'm sorting a 1-d (NumPy) matrix array (a) and wanting the index results > (b). This is what I have: > > b = a.argsort(0) > b = b+1 > > The one (1) is added to b so that there isn't a zero index element. Is > there a more elegant way to do this? b = a.argsort(0) +

Re: [Tutor] Elegant argument index sort

2007-11-08 Thread bob gailer
Dinesh B Vadhia wrote: > I'm sorting a 1-d (NumPy) matrix array (a) and wanting the index > results (b). I can't tell from your comments and code what you want. Please provide a better explanation and give an example of input and output numbers. Also I am not familiar with argsort. > This is wh

Re: [Tutor] New Introductory Book

2007-11-08 Thread Eddie Armstrong
wesley chun wrote: > michael's and david's book spends a bit more time > introducing the concepts of OOP/OOD more carefully and more though If it had been half the price I'd have bought it for a strong exposition of OO principles in Python. However at less than 700pp and c. £54 in the UK it won't