On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:06 AM, ALAN GAULD wrote:
>
>
>> > If its a typical ADSL line it will be conneced to a DSLAM at
>> > the centeral office(by the telco) and that will be shareed.
>>
>> > ADSL also loses bandwidth the further you are from the office
>
>> process has to be diversified for ea
> > If its a typical ADSL line it will be conneced to a DSLAM at
> > the centeral office(by the telco) and that will be shareed.
>
> > ADSL also loses bandwidth the further you are from the office
> process has to be diversified for each customer, because it
> all travels at the speed of lig
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Alan Gauld wrote:
> "David Hutto" wrote
>
>> > Or if the network is shared with other users or other applications
>>
>> So, the bandwidth supplied(better question for my own ISP) is like a
>> drop cord, even with alleged T1 connections plugged in, it drop in
>> a
On 06/29/10 19:48, Richard D. Moores wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 01:06, Alan Gauld wrote:
>> "Richard D. Moores" wrote
>>
You log into Gmail and your browser downloads the Gmail page;
>>>
>>> Yes, of course. But I'm always logged into Gmail.
>>
>> But it is still continually downloading
"Walter Prins" wrote
a) I sometimes use Gmail while we visit folks in South Africa who
are still
on 56k dial-up. Initial log-in can be a bit slow, but generally
you'd be
surprised at how efficient/quick it is w.r.t bandwidth.
To be fair to Google, GMail is one of the best implemented web m
"David Hutto" wrote
> Or if the network is shared with other users or other applications
So, the bandwidth supplied(better question for my own ISP) is like a
drop cord, even with alleged T1 connections plugged in, it drop in
accordance with usage that exceeds the max capacity even though they
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 01:06, Alan Gauld wrote:
> "Richard D. Moores" wrote
>
>>> You log into Gmail and your browser downloads the Gmail page;
>>
>> Yes, of course. But I'm always logged into Gmail.
>
> But it is still continually downloading. The same applies to a
> desktop client, if you leav
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Alan Gauld wrote:
>
> "David Hutto" wrote
>
>> > fundamentally different from "downloading", and those who know > that
>> > the
>> > only difference is that with streaming, the browser deletes the > video
>>
>> But this only matters if a)you're paying for it, not
At the risk of adding more fuel to the fire, I'll simply note that
a) I sometimes use Gmail while we visit folks in South Africa who are still
on 56k dial-up. Initial log-in can be a bit slow, but generally you'd be
surprised at how efficient/quick it is w.r.t bandwidth. (As an aside, with
the am
"Richard D. Moores" wrote
You log into Gmail and your browser downloads the Gmail page;
Yes, of course. But I'm always logged into Gmail.
But it is stiill continually downloading. The same applies to a
desktop client, if you leave it running it can continually poll the
server, just like gma
"David Hutto" wrote
> fundamentally different from "downloading", and those who know
> that the
> only difference is that with streaming, the browser deletes the
> video
But this only matters if a)you're paying for it, not the boss b)
that
there are unlimited plans available for a single m
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 17:32, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:52:03 am Richard D. Moores wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 16:25, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 03:07:47 am Richard D. Moores wrote:
>> >> A "feature" very important to me
>> >> is that with Gmail
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:52:03 am Richard D. Moores wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 16:25, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 03:07:47 am Richard D. Moores wrote:
>> >> A "feature" very important to me
>> >> is that with Gma
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:52:03 am Richard D. Moores wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 16:25, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 03:07:47 am Richard D. Moores wrote:
> >> A "feature" very important to me
> >> is that with Gmail, my mail is just always THERE, with no need to
> >> download
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 16:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 03:07:47 am Richard D. Moores wrote:
>> A "feature" very important to me
>> is that with Gmail, my mail is just always THERE, with no need to
>> download it
>
> You see your email without downloading it? You don't understa
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 03:07:47 am Richard D. Moores wrote:
> A "feature" very important to me
> is that with Gmail, my mail is just always THERE, with no need to
> download it
You see your email without downloading it? You don't understand how the
Internet works, do you?
*wry grin*
--
Steven D'
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Alan Gauld wrote:
> "Marc Tompkins" wrote
>
> having no default email client (what sort of two-bit operating system
>>
>>> doesn't have an email client in 2010?);
>>>
>>> Jesus, you _miss_ Outlook Express? Seriously: the new default is
>> webmail.
>> Like it,
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 07:41, Alan Gauld wrote:
> "Marc Tompkins" wrote
> I will miss OE. I actually quite like it, its simple but has all the bits
> I need for both email and newrgroups. I tried thunderbird and use it
> on my Linux box but on windows I usually revert to OE.
>
> And its lots be
"Marc Tompkins" wrote
having no default email client (what sort of two-bit operating
system
doesn't have an email client in 2010?);
Jesus, you _miss_ Outlook Express? Seriously: the new default is
webmail.
Like it, don't like it, but it's really not as if you can't get your
mail.
I will
"Steven D'Aprano" wrote
having no default email client (what sort of two-bit operating
system
doesn't have an email client in 2010?);
To be fair to MS - and it pains me to do so - they have been beat up
so much by the lawyers that its hardlly surprising. After all they
have been forced to r
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Apart from:
>
The OP was asking about upgrading from Vista to 7, so let me answer your
objections here...
having no default email client (what sort of two-bit operating system
> doesn't have an email client in 2010?);
>
Jesus, you _miss_
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 15:04, Marc Tompkins wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Richard D. Moores
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 13:39, Sithembewena Lloyd Dube
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Dick,
>> >
>> > In that case, perhaps you could externally back up all your important
>> > stuff
>> > a
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:55:13 am Sithembewena Lloyd Dube wrote:
> Richard, I think you may go ahead without trepidation. I am not a
> Windows fan at all, I prefer Ubuntu. But I started using Win. 7 at
> work about a month ago, and I have to say it hasn't given me cause to
> grumble.
I don't think R
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Richard D. Moores wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 13:39, Sithembewena Lloyd Dube
> wrote:
> > Hi Dick,
> >
> > In that case, perhaps you could externally back up all your important
> stuff
> > and then format your hard disk. That way, any drivers etc intended for
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 13:39, Sithembewena Lloyd Dube
wrote:
> Hi Dick,
>
> In that case, perhaps you could externally back up all your important stuff
> and then format your hard disk. That way, any drivers etc intended for
> Windows Vista will be wiped off, and you can then perform a clean
> in
Hi Dick,
In that case, perhaps you could externally back up all your important stuff
and then format your hard disk. That way, any drivers etc intended for
Windows Vista will be wiped off, and you can then perform a clean
installation from your disk. Now, as far as upgrade disks go, I do not know
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:55, Sithembewena Lloyd Dube
wrote:
> Richard, I think you may go ahead without trepidation. I am not a Windows
> fan at all, I prefer Ubuntu. But I started using Win. 7 at work about a
> month ago, and I have to say it hasn't given me cause to grumble.
>
> Of course, a m
Richard, I think you may go ahead without trepidation. I am not a Windows
fan at all, I prefer Ubuntu. But I started using Win. 7 at work about a
month ago, and I have to say it hasn't given me cause to grumble.
Of course, a month is hardly sufficient time to have a strong opinion, but I
can tell
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:53:57 pm you wrote:
> > Why did they stop? Could it be because the upgrade is sometimes
> > difficult and requires huge amount of manual effort to get it
> > working, far more than $40 will cover?
>
> Do you know that it does? Please tell me what you know.
I have no idea. Th
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 03:10, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:00:16 pm Richard D. Moores wrote:
>> Sorry about the OT, but I'm really nervous about the possibility of
>> screwing up my laptop by upgrading the OS from Vista to 7, and can't
>> think of a better place than Tutors to
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:00:16 pm Richard D. Moores wrote:
> Sorry about the OT, but I'm really nervous about the possibility of
> screwing up my laptop by upgrading the OS from Vista to 7, and can't
> think of a better place than Tutors to ask for advice.
Because of course knowing Python makes you
I am not a window user myself but all my friends who upgraded are quite
happy about it. AFAIK Vista was a failure but 7 is good, so it is worth
upgrading.
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Richard D. Moores wrote:
> Sorry about the OT, but I'm really nervous about the possibility of
> screwing up
Sorry about the OT, but I'm really nervous about the possibility of
screwing up my laptop by upgrading the OS from Vista to 7, and can't
think of a better place than Tutors to ask for advice.
I bought this Toshiba Satellite last October. It came with the right
to receive the upgrade CD for Windows
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