Well, added a Gnome bugzilla bug about this
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550199
Windows workgroup name must be put somewhere and shares-admin can
handle it or change Nautilus rightclick to also include workgroup.
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Hello Sebastien,
I've upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04.1 this weekend. (I know: it is late, but)
One of the problems I encountered was the shares-admin menu entry which
disappeared without further notice.
In my oppinion removing menu entries is always a very bad idea.
After some research I
how did you upgrade? update-manager should have done this change. there
is no real point to discuss the change again since the bug has already
enough comment about this topic
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Sebastien asked:
how did you upgrade? update-manager should have done this change.
I can confirm this: on another machine here update-manager worked and the
package nautilus-share was indeed installed afterwards.
On my personal notebook I had problems during the upgrade with update-manager:
the menu item is easy enough to add using the menu editor if you need
it
Sebastien, NotShowIn=GNOME; is used in the .desktop file. This means
a) it will show up in other DEs. Is this what you want?
b) it does _not_ show up as a disabled launcher in Alacarte for those of us who
want to
right, one of the reason this has been re-enable is for xubuntu and
other non GNOME derivatives to have the option available that's why it's
masked in GNOME only, agreed that the change is not ideal but we got no
complain so far so that seems good enough
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The reason is documented in the changelog, the official way to use smb
in hardy is nautilus-share, shares-admin is there for derivative
distributions and users upgrading who need to do changes, the menu item
is easy enough to add using the menu editor if you need it. Running
shares-admin is the
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-system-tools - 2.22.0-0ubuntu8
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* debian/control.in,
debian/gnome-system-tools.manpages,
debian/menu,
debian/patches/00list,
shares-admin is now installed by default again, however there is no icon
in the System / Administration menu, should we consider this as a bug or
shares-admin will stay hidden?
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could you read the changelog before asking such questions?
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Sorry, I missed one line.
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On 04/14/2008 02:49 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
could you read the changelog before asking such questions?
Thanks *very* much for adding this back in.
Can you:
1. Please explain why shares-admin is no longer listed the menu
System|Administration menu? I'm sure there must be a good reason,
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no offence, I'm not opposed to consider undoing the change (though we
will not use the nautilus code and mask the item under GNOME) if other
people really need the software, but doing that has a maintainance cost
and it would be nice to have a real statement about mythbuntu wanting
this rather
Hi Sebastien,
For Mythbuntu, we were using this as a centralized location to configure
NFS and Samba. NFS is used a lot more in our case, so having some sort
of means to the old shares-admin tool in Xubuntu and/or Mythbuntu
(moreover XFCE) would be very good for us.
It's fine if its is
A few comments:
1. This seems to have been removed without any care for the Ubuntu
variants that don't rely upon nautilus.
2. The shares-admin tool wasn't for advanced configuration, but was
still a centralized place to configure sharing (which many modern
OS's/distros seem to have). The
Sean,
- that's not a true statement, read the previous comments, the tool is
just not working and that's no a favor to do to those users. The ubuntu
team also works daily on IRC with people from derivatives distributions
and we got no request for them to revert this change
- right,
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
The ubuntu
team also works daily on IRC with people from derivatives distributions
and we got no request for them to revert this change
That's not quite true. I'd like to refer you to
the comment doesn't suggest that a derivative distribution need the
binary, and you should subscribe to the bug if you are interested in a
discussion, anyway this discussion is not leading anywhere so could
people stop commenting there and rather start a discussing on the list
where users can
did anybody try to install system-config-samba? any reason it's not
enough for people who need a such application?
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sorry if I offended you. I'm actually subscribed to this bug through the
Mythbuntu team.
I've just tried system-config-samba. Except for #213942 which is
probably easily solved (if touching /etc/libuser.conf is the correct
solution), it looks pretty good.
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+1, the removal of shares-admin is a regression IMO. Hiding it by
default from the ubuntu menu would have been great, but not deleting it.
What if I want to remove all shares on my computer? I have no way to see
if there is still shared folders! Also shares-admin gave more advanced
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@Patrice : Thank you, usershare seems to be very interesting !
Even if it is a very good thing to let users share folders without admin
rights and also allow optional guest access to these shares, I think the
owner (admin) of the computer should have a tool that gives a
centralized view of all
The removal of shares-admin is a problem for me too... I think it is a
good idea to make sharing easy from nautilus (if it works), but IMHO it
is also important to be able to manage the shares globally, in a tool
that displays all the shares in one place.
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@Lilian : try system-config-samba may be ?
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@Patric Vetsel : I installed but it doesn't start. After a search, I
found this is a know problem (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source
/system-config-samba/+bug/185543) and solved it with sudo touch
/etc/libuser.conf.
Now it starts but doesn't show me the share I just create through
@Lilian : Sorry i'v badly understood your :
manage the shares globally
As said before :
nautilus-share is the ONLY tool that use usershare way provided by samba.
Using usershare is the only way to let users share with samba without having
admin rights.
system-config-samba don't know how to
Ubuntu Hardy Beta fresh install fully updated as of April 7, 2008,
Gnome desktop.
Right clicking a directory from Nautilus and selecting Sharing Options
then Share this folder, Create Share on a user folder results in:
'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: failed to add
share
@NoOp : it's already reported : Bug #212098
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Would it be possible to still provide a (unsupported universe based)
binary package called shares-admin? Other GTK based desktop solutions
(Such as Xfce) used shares-admin in the past, and making nautilus a
dependency isn't a good idea.
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would you argue that the tools was working? you can't share anonymously using
it and you need to use the
command line to set a password to do a normal share. what do you think the
normal user reaction to this is? we
got many bugs asking why we ship something which doesn't work, because
OK Sebastien, I'm here to eat my words. Indeed I am an idiot.
I agree that the #3 build of shares-admin on hardy is completely broken.
Attempting to set up a share doesn't work at all.
I also tried shares-admin on my gutsy laptop.
It worked OK. There was one bug.
I had to restart smbd to make
Carlos, nautilus-share uses the new netshare samba feature and not what
you cann share-level. Note that shares-admin doesn't ask for a password
on ubuntu which is a bug and might be easy to fix but the desktop team
is already overworked and nobody else has showed interest to debug this
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Isn't it a bad idea to remove a major feature from the user interface
after feature freeze?
I bet you would be getting a lot more bugs reports but many people can't figure
out what happened.
Or they setup there shares before the last update and they haven't needed this
tool yet.
It took me
Amen, Michael!
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I have submitted Bug #209856 against mythbuntu and sent email to xubuntu-devel.
Those projects need to know about this issue.
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let be constructive rather to rant, the change has been discussed during
the uds and planned for this cycle, it has been late right but everybody
is overworked.
would you argue that the tools was working? you can't share anonymously
using it and you need to use the command line to set a password
Sorry if I sound like I'm ranting.
I used the old tool without any trouble on gutsy.
I understand it is broken in some ways for some users but it always worked OK
for me.
I didn't have any trouble setting up shares using the #3 build in Hardy.
But I haven't checked that I can actually get to
Of course, it's been changed to nautilus-share, which supports sharing folders
anonymously.
Is it really nautilus-share that's supposed to be the replacement comes
Hardy? I was of the impression that nautilus-share wasn't very well
localized. At least it's not translated at all to Swedish.
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Let me remark that nautilus-share is not a _centralized_ (i.e. system-
wide on a single window) shares management point, it's just an applet
that lets you right-click share folders without the administrative
hassle. So it's not a replacement for shares-admin. What I'm asking is:
will there be a
nautilus-share is the ONLY tool that use usershare way provided by samba.
Using usershare is the only way to let users share with samba without having
admin rights.
For the first time since warty we can share by samba (in guest) mode
without using tricks, all working from ubuntu or windows
Habbit, not there will not be a such tool in the default hardy
installation, shares-admin was not working correctly (no anonymous
sharing, no way to set login and passwords for the shares, etc) and
shipping it is not doing a favor to the users. Did you try gadmintools
or gsambad for example?
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I've made a local translation of nautilus-share to Swedish (I need it
for parts of my household). How do I go about submitting my translation?
Perhaps it's of use to others. nautilus-share doesn't seem to be a
registered project at launchpad (at least I couldn't find it). Also, for
some reason the
there is bug #208707 about translation issues
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Ok, so once again, what about Xubuntu, which does not have Nautilus, and
thus, nautilus-share? Will there be no default-installed Samba admin
tool?
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no idea about xubuntu, they do whatever they want, they could install
gsambad or similar. Given the choice between a broken tool than only
command line users will be able to use and no tool it's less confusing
to not install something not working rather than having users wondering
why there is a
I can confirm this. It has been said that shares-admin is no longer
needed, now that Nautilus can enable folder sharing too, but this little
app was a good, centralized point to manage the whole SMB (and NFS)
config, a feature lost with its removal. Furthermore, what about Xubuntu
and Mythbuntu?
did you read the update changelog? that's not a bug but a decision, the
software is not really maintainer and doesn't respond to user
expectations since it doesn't allow anonymous shares and users have to
use the command line to add credentials
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Ok, so the app was bad and unmantained, so it got removed. Even though
the decision seems wrong to me, because there is no clear alternative
for a centralized management other that full-blown Samba managers like
SWAT, I can live with it. So, will there be a centralized network shares
Habbit wrote:
Ok, so the app was bad and unmantained, so it got removed. Even though
the decision seems wrong to me, because there is no clear alternative
for a centralized management other that full-blown Samba managers like
SWAT, I can live with it. So, will there be a centralized network
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