Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-21 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg K Nicholson wrote on 21/02/08 15:43: > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 17:52 +1300, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >... >> Greg K Nicholson wrote on 14/02/08 03:05: >... >>> In which case Alt-dragging wouldn't move the window as usual. >>> ... >> It already doe

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-20 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 02:43 +, Greg K Nicholson wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 17:52 +1300, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Greg K Nicholson wrote on 14/02/08 03:05: > > > > > >> Epiphany and Firefox could adopt the same behavior in th

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-20 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 17:52 +1300, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Greg K Nicholson wrote on 14/02/08 03:05: > > > >> Epiphany and Firefox could adopt the same behavior in their Bookmarks > >> menus. > > > > In which case Alt-dragging wouldn't mo

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-18 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg K Nicholson wrote on 14/02/08 03:05: > >> Epiphany and Firefox could adopt the same behavior in their Bookmarks >> menus. > > In which case Alt-dragging wouldn't move the window as usual. >... It already doesn't, and probably never has. In Epip

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-13 Thread Greg K Nicholson
> Epiphany and Firefox > could adopt the same behavior in their Bookmarks menus. In which case Alt-dragging wouldn't move the window as usual. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-12 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 10, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Ivan Sagalaev wrote: > > Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >> >> The panel could copy this behavior: Alt+dragging could move the panel, >> while normal dragging does nothing. That way people would be much less >> likely to move t

Re: Another panel movement patch (Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?)

2008-02-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 11 février 2008, à 20:16 -0400, William Lachance a écrit : > 3. Am I asking these questions in the appropriate forum? As an > unaffiliated developer, I'd be just as happy to do this work upstream. > Unfortunately, there's no GNOME mailing list for panel issues that I > know of (and I don't

Another panel movement patch (Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?)

2008-02-11 Thread William Lachance
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 17:11 -0400, William Lachance wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 22:09 +1300, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > The panel could copy this behavior: Alt+dragging could move the > > panel, > > while normal dragging does nothing. That way people would be much > > less > > likely t

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-11 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
On Thursday 07 February 2008 18:18:34 Jan Claeys wrote: > Middle click + drag moves panel applets too (if they aren't locked). > -- > Jan Claeys Thanks for the tip, I didn't know about that. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784E

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-10 Thread William Lachance
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 22:09 +1300, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > The panel could copy this behavior: Alt+dragging could move the > panel, > while normal dragging does nothing. That way people would be much > less > likely to move the panel by mistake. FYI, I'm working on this solution (which is

Re: Fwd: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-10 Thread Martin Ahnelöv
sön 2008-02-10 klockan 20:33 +0300 skrev Ivan Sagalaev: > Martin Ahnelöv wrote: > > Maybe we could add a little lighbulb with a label that say "TIP: alt > > +drag the panel to move it" in the configure-interface (the place one > > are most likely to visit when you are configuring the panel). > >

Re: Fwd: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-10 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
Bogdan Butnaru wrote: >> Matthew, do you have any suggestions on how discoverability of this can >> be improved? I don't think Alt+dragging is a well known concept to >> general public or am I wrong? > > It's not really general knowledge, but Compiz (and I think Metacity > and most other WMs) alre

Fwd: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-10 Thread Bogdan Butnaru
On Feb 10, 2008 11:01 AM, Ivan Sagalaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > The panel could copy this behavior: Alt+dragging could move the panel, > > while normal dragging does nothing. That way people would be much less > > likely to move the panel by mistake. > > Matthew,

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-10 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > The panel could copy this behavior: Alt+dragging could move the panel, > while normal dragging does nothing. That way people would be much less > likely to move the panel by mistake. Matthew, do you have any suggestions on how discoverability of this can be improved

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 10 février 2008, à 22:09 +1300, Matthew Paul Thomas a écrit : > On Feb 7, 2008, at 9:06 AM, William Lachance wrote: >> ... >> A while back I fixed up a patch originally written by Novell to GNOME >> panel, which makes it impossible to move without unlocking it first >> (the default se

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-10 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Feb 7, 2008, at 9:06 AM, William Lachance wrote: ... A while back I fixed up a patch originally written by Novell to GNOME panel, which makes it impossible to move without unlocking it first (the default setting is locked). This prevents the user from inadvertently moving the panel when (e.g

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-08 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 12:36 -0400, William Lachance wrote: > > http://live.gnome.org/DesktopInterface#head-e6057484973caefd20f5965074e57c4505ecaf12 > > Interesting, this does seem like an improvement upon what I was > originally advocating for, though I wonder if it might be confusing for > a glo

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-08 Thread William Lachance
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 13:36 +, Greg K Nicholson wrote: > > > doesn't it make sense to remove the "Lock" > > option on individual applets at the same time? > > Yes; such a design is described on Gnome Live: > http://live.gnome.org/DesktopInterface#head-e6057484973caefd20f5965074e57c4505ecaf12

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-08 Thread Greg K Nicholson
> doesn't it make sense to remove the "Lock" > option on individual applets at the same time? Yes; such a design is described on Gnome Live: http://live.gnome.org/DesktopInterface#head-e6057484973caefd20f5965074e57c4505ecaf12 Another (in my opinion, better) approach would be to copy xfce: xfce's

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-07 Thread Jan Claeys
Op donderdag 07-02-2008 om 09:39 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef William Lachance: > That being said, the lock option for individual applets seems quite > useless. All it does is make it so you can't move an applet without > the toggle in the context menu, but you can only move the applet by > openin

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-07 Thread William Lachance
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 13:59 -0800, Ted Gould wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 16:06 -0400, William Lachance wrote: > > A while back I fixed up a patch originally written by Novell to GNOME > > panel, which makes it impossible to move without unlocking it first (the > > default setting is locked). Th

Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 16:06 -0400, William Lachance wrote: > A while back I fixed up a patch originally written by Novell to GNOME > panel, which makes it impossible to move without unlocking it first (the > default setting is locked). This prevents the user from inadvertently > moving the panel w

Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?

2008-02-06 Thread William Lachance
Hi there, A while back I fixed up a patch originally written by Novell to GNOME panel, which makes it impossible to move without unlocking it first (the default setting is locked). This prevents the user from inadvertently moving the panel when (e.g.) they're just trying to open an application. B