Re: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Stéphane Graber
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 05:24:23PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:00:12AM -0800, Leann Ogasawara wrote: > > With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the idea of having a > > 12.04.5 point release for Precise. > > > As many are aware, recent 12.04.x point re

Re: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:00:12AM -0800, Leann Ogasawara wrote: > With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the idea of having a > 12.04.5 point release for Precise. > As many are aware, recent 12.04.x point releases have shipped with a newer > kernel and X stack by default for hardw

Re: QATracker wiki?

2014-02-07 Thread Elfy
On 07/02/14 21:14, George DiceGeorge wrote: *I'm trying to learn how to help with Xubuntu testing,* *but i'm confused - at* https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker where it says [ SUMMARY SCREEN version.png The picture above shows a single product (ubuntu) with 9 "mandatory" testc

QATracker wiki?

2014-02-07 Thread George DiceGeorge
I’m trying to learn how to help with Xubuntu testing, but i’m confused - at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker where it says [ SUMMARY SCREEN version.png The picture above shows a single product (ubuntu) with 9 "mandatory" testcases, ] shouldnt there be a picture where it says [version.pn

Re: Upgrading Precise to Trusty

2014-02-07 Thread Elfy
On 07/02/14 20:52, Richard Elkins wrote: I should also add that the upgrade testing from 12.04.3 to 14.04.latest-at-that-time was rather pristine. I tried both an ISO image upgrade and one via `update-manager -c -d`. Very predictable and stable results. So, a bit of documentation word-smithi

Re: YouTube Documentation Channel - 13.10, etc.

2014-02-07 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
On 07/02/14 22:47, Jay Torian wrote: > Hello Elizabeth and others, > > I've been setting up a screen-casting setup and now have what I need. > > My current plan is to create some documentation videos based on the > information in: http://docs.xubuntu.org/1310/ > > The basic reason is some of this,

Upgrading Precise to Trusty

2014-02-07 Thread Richard Elkins
I should also add that the upgrade testing from 12.04.3 to 14.04.latest-at-that-time was rather pristine. I tried both an ISO image upgrade and one via `update-manager -c -d`. Very predictable and stable results. So, a bit of documentation word-smithing in the release notes for 14.04 may be suff

Re: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Elfy
On 07/02/14 19:33, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote: FYI How does this align with our planning? If it goes as smoothly as past point releases, it would require us to do testing of the ISOs but I don't think much else (unless we wan

YouTube Documentation Channel - 13.10, etc.

2014-02-07 Thread Jay Torian
Hello Elizabeth and others, I've been setting up a screen-casting setup and now have what I need. My current plan is to create some documentation videos based on the information in: http://docs.xubuntu.org/1310/ The basic reason is some of this, and a few other topics I believe have a high searc

Re: Fwd: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Richard Elkins
12.04.4 ISO installation testing looks good from a test case perspective (my experience). As stated below by Pasi, it would be possible to handle 12.04.4 to "12.04.5" via package updates and leave it alone for the most part. So, I'd rather see effort put in the customer migration of 12.04.x to 14

Re: Fwd: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
If there is enough interest and motivation from the community (including people who can actually help with the SRU), it can be discussed. As Jackson, I don't personally think it as a realistic thing to do at the moment either. Pasi On 07/02/14 22:03, Jackson Doak wrote: > 4.12 will be difficult t

Re: Fwd: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Jackson Doak
4.12 will be difficult to get to 14.04, let alone backporting it all the way to precise On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Roberto J Dohnert wrote: > Aside from the trusty enablment stack, the only other compelling piece > would be XFCE 4.12, which I cant seem to get a precise, no pun intended, >

Re: Fwd: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Roberto J Dohnert
Aside from the trusty enablment stack, the only other compelling piece would be XFCE 4.12, which I cant seem to get a precise, no pun intended, release date. Releasing the trusty kernel through updates would be optimal. Of course, we, the Black Lab Linux team, are supporting 12.04 for two yea

Re: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote: > FYI > > How does this align with our planning? If it goes as smoothly as past point releases, it would require us to do testing of the ISOs but I don't think much else (unless we want to). -- Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pl

Re: Fwd: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
If we don't need to update the ISO really, we can just release 12.04.5 as is, with the updates that have landed to Ubuntu core after .4. On the other hand, if there is something we want in, it's another possibility to get stuff in an ISO, not just updates. I would note that there is only 1 year le

Re: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 02/07/2014 11:00 AM, Leann Ogasawara wrote: > Hi All, > > With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the idea of having a > 12.04.5 point release for Precise. > +1 I don't think we can reasonably do anything else. -- Jamie Strandboge http://www.ubuntu.com/ sig

Fwd: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Stephen Michael Kellat
FYI How does this align with our planning? Stephen Michael Kellat In the basement cafeteria on lunch Begin forwarded message: > From: Leann Ogasawara > Date: February 7, 2014, 11:00:12 AM EST > To: ubuntu-rele...@lists.ubuntu.com, ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: [RFC] 12.04.5 > > H

Re: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Tim Gardner
On 02/07/2014 09:00 AM, Leann Ogasawara wrote: > Hi All, > > With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the idea of > having a 12.04.5 point release for Precise. > +1 -- Tim Gardner tim.gard...@canonical.com -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settin

Package testing - XFCE Core Group

2014-02-07 Thread Elfy
Phew ... it's all a bit thick and fast at the moment ... So following on from the other package testing we've been doing - it's time for the next group of tests. *XFCE Core * You can find them in the same place as the others - http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds/55

Re: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Stéphane Graber
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 09:20:06AM -0700, Adam Conrad wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:00:12AM -0800, Leann Ogasawara wrote: > > > > With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the idea of having a > > 12.04.5 point release for Precise. > > FWIW, I think the engineering burden for d

Re: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Adam Conrad
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:00:12AM -0800, Leann Ogasawara wrote: > > With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the idea of having a > 12.04.5 point release for Precise. FWIW, I think the engineering burden for doing this is worth the trade off for it being The Right Thing To Do. ...

[RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-07 Thread Leann Ogasawara
Hi All, With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the idea of having a 12.04.5 point release for Precise. As many are aware, recent 12.04.x point releases have shipped with a newer kernel and X stack by default for hardware enablement purposes. Maintainers of these enablement stacks