Hmm... this ended up in sounder; should be in ubuntu-devel-discuss too.
CK
On Nov 28, 2007 4:49 AM, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are always looking for more ways to reduce CD size so that we can fit
> more things on the CD [...] There are various other targets of opportunity
> [
On Dec 6, 2007 1:48 PM, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > GParted is still installed on the live-CD, and was installed on hard
> > disk by default in the past.
>
> I don't believe this latter statement is true, except perhaps by a
> temporary bug in some milestone CD images [1]. An exhaus
Am Mittwoch, den 12.12.2007, 05:06 -0600 schrieb Conrad Knauer:
> Mono by default takes 48MB of space on the CD. The ISO download is
> 690+ MB. Therefore, it is taking up valuable space that could be used
> for a whole host of other things. Also, for that 48MB, there are just
> two applications wh
> What is your data migration model? You cannot replace software in each
> release.
The data created in these services was stored in a proprietary and
non-system wide format?
See this is why we need User Services via dbus; what good is an
address book or notes if each program stores them in an in
Sebastian Heinlein schrieb:
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.12.2007, 05:06 -0600 schrieb Conrad Knauer:
>
>> Mono by default takes 48MB of space on the CD. The ISO download is
>> 690+ MB. Therefore, it is taking up valuable space that could be used
>> for a whole host of other things. Also, for that 48MB, t
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 17:22 +0100, Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.12.2007, 05:06 -0600 schrieb Conrad Knauer:
>
> > Mono by default takes 48MB of space on the CD. The ISO download is
> > 690+ MB. Therefore, it is taking up valuable space that could be used
> > for a whole host of
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 12:58 -0500, Martin Owens wrote:
> > F-Spot and gThumb are very similar in capabilities on local images.
> > Though F-Spot's interface is a little cleaner. But the big difference
> > comes in Web2.0 integration. GThumb has none, while F-Spot integrates
> > with Flickr, Pica
Martin Owens escreveu:
> Users who want any of these applications can get them from the
> repositories; just because you like the applications doesn't make them
> good for inclusion by default. The argument seems to be that we should
> sacrifice 60MB of CD space for a handful of extra features. Th
> F-Spot and gThumb are very similar in capabilities on local images.
> Though F-Spot's interface is a little cleaner. But the big difference
> comes in Web2.0 integration. GThumb has none, while F-Spot integrates
> with Flickr, Picasa, etc. Hands down, this is what end users expect,
> and it is
On Dec 13, 2007 1:58 AM, Martin Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > F-Spot and gThumb are very similar in capabilities on local images.
> > Though F-Spot's interface is a little cleaner. But the big difference
> > comes in Web2.0 integration. GThumb has none, while F-Spot integrates
> > with Fli
On Dec 12, 2007 1:37 PM, Joel Bryan Juliano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tomboy and F-Spot are two most useful and innovative Linux applications
> in the desktop, removing them will give non-geeks no reason to switch
> to Linux.
Just an aside, what do you think of Miro? (its got the 'Web 2.0' loo
> Could you list some example of those things that would be nice there?
Sure thing: Inkscape, Conduit, opensync, Glipper, firefox-adblock,
rar-free, more languages, obex, gnome parition editor, audacity,
gnomebaker, vim (real vim), PGP keys manager, open office draw, any
kind of irc program, keep
Hang on a second,
> This is one of the reason why Linux in general only appeal to geeks,
> and why Windows is still the primary OS of choice for non-geeks.
> Tomboy and F-Spot are two most useful and innovative Linux applications
> in the desktop, removing them will give non-geeks no reason to swi
On mer, 2007-12-12 at 12:58 -0500, Martin Owens wrote:
> for inclusion. But at the moment these don't exist and we shouldn't be
> looking for these tiny features when we could be including much better
> things on the CD.
Hi,
Could you list some example of those things that would be nice there?
> I will even help you with one more I would like to see... Scribus. My
> mother uses this along with Inkscape for her scrap-booking (definitely
> not a geeky endeavor), and with a few tweaks to the descriptions, could
> be a very popular addition.
I'll have insist about the sync support, it's no
Am 12.12.2007 um 19:13 schrieb Adilson Oliveira:
> Well, if I had to choose, I would vote for the removal and use this
> space to include more language packs so people who does not use
> English
> can have their languages installed without having to be connect to the
> internet. Specially usefu
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 15:27 -0500, Martin Owens wrote:
> > Could you list some example of those things that would be nice there?
>
> Sure thing: Inkscape, Conduit, opensync, Glipper, firefox-adblock,
> rar-free, more languages, obex, gnome parition editor, audacity,
> gnomebaker, vim (real vim),
(could you just send the mail to the list and not to the submitter?)
On mer, 2007-12-12 at 15:27 -0500, Martin Owens wrote:
> > Could you list some example of those things that would be nice there?
>
> Sure thing: Inkscape, Conduit, opensync, Glipper, firefox-adblock,
> rar-free, more languages,
> Use the carrot and back off on the whip by showing that they can tweak
> existing programs to gain mono
But that doesn't require mono to be installed by default does it?
we're not trying to prove a point by including this software are we? I
hope not.
> Its about making the transition easier f
On Dec 13, 2007 4:27 AM, Martin Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Could you list some example of those things that would be nice there?
>
> Conduit, opensync, Glipper, firefox-adblock,
> rar-free, more languages, obex, gnome parition editor, audacity,
> gnomebaker, vim (real vim), PGP keys manag
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 15:46 -0500, Martin Owens wrote:
> > I will even help you with one more I would like to see... Scribus. My
> > mother uses this along with Inkscape for her scrap-booking (definitely
> > not a geeky endeavor), and with a few tweaks to the descriptions, could
> > be a very pop
Kevin Fries wrote:
> I will even help you with one more I would like to see... Scribus. My
> mother uses this along with Inkscape for her scrap-booking (definitely
> not a geeky endeavor), and with a few tweaks to the descriptions, could
> be a very popular addition.
>
I second that, but this a
I'd like to make a strawman proposal to be torn apart and burnt as
necessary: merge main and universe. I will try and explain my
rationale, and my alternate proposal.
(I'm subscribed to all of the mailing lists I'm posting to, please don't
Cc me if you're following up to one of them)
The distin
I'll have to answer some of these in the wrong order, and I've put it
back on list since it's an important thread regardless.
> I for one am done with this conversation. You just don't seem to get
> it. I am not sure why you refuse to listen, but please, find another
> windmill OK?
This is a d
On Dec 12, 2007 2:36 PM, Kevin Fries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > any
> > kind of webcam management software, cheese
>
> I'll give you Inkscape and webcam, but I think the rest such as addons,
> vim, irc, gnome partition editor, etc really do need to stay in the
> repos.
I'm going to second che
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:06:18 -0600
> From: "Conrad Knauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Fwd: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)
> To: "Ubuntu Developer Discussion Mailing List"
>
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Chris Jones wrote:
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:06:18 -0600
>> From: "Conrad Knauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Fwd: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)
>> To: "Ubuntu Developer Discussion Mailing List"
On Dec 13, 2007 1:58 AM, Blaise Alleyne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why is there so much focus on keeping the Ubuntu installer to the very
> > limited size of a CD-R ISO?
> > I mean, this modern world of computing we live in, the 700MB capacity of
> > a CD-R isn't much to play around with reall
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