Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-09 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 07:11 -0500, Evan Dandrea wrote: > > http://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/ubuntu_installer_thorwil.pdf > Thank you very much to take the time to write up this detailed and > visually stunning report. You're welcome, and thanks for the detailed reply! > > A good liv

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-09 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 22:30 +, (=?utf-8?q?=60=60-=5F-=C2=B4=C2=B4?=) -- Fernando wrote: > On Monday 07 January 2008 21:10:41 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > > 10GB is more than enough under normal usage. You'd have to install..all of > > GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment...and it still wouldn't be full. E

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-09 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 20:16 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Hi! > > I did a walk-through and compiled issues, suggestions and several > mockups regarding the Ubuntu installation: > > http://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/ubuntu_installer_thorwil.pdf > > Any comments welcome. I'm willing to

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-09 Thread Aurélien Naldi
On Jan 8, 2008 11:30 PM, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 07 January 2008 21:10:41 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > > 10GB is more than enough under normal usage. You'd have to install..all of > > GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment...and it still wouldn't be full. Even with all > > th

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-09 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
On Monday 07 January 2008 21:10:41 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > 10GB is more than enough under normal usage. You'd have to install..all of > GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment...and it still wouldn't be full. Even with all > that and a lot more, I'm at around 7GB full. > > On Jan 7, 2008 4:05 PM, Mario Vuke

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-08 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 17:51 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > Let's hope it won't be forgotten in the depth of the ML, like many > > other great things... Have you directly contacted the authors? > > An email to Colin Watson (installer team leader), no answer. > Hmm, yes, maybe I should contact th

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-08 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 13:13 +0100, Nicolas Deschildre wrote: > Very nice review, a lot of attention to detail. Thanks! > Let's hope it won't be forgotten in the depth of the ML, like many > other great things... Have you directly contacted the authors? An email to Colin Watson (installer team le

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-08 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 16:45 -0500, Vadim Peretokin wrote: > That's a very nice pdf. One minor thing: Thanks! Also thanks for all the other supportive comments :) > User Switching > The User Switcher applet shouldn't appear with only one user. > > I think it should, to let the use familiarize t

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-08 Thread Nicolas Deschildre
Very nice review, a lot of attention to detail. Let's hope it won't be forgotten in the depth of the ML, like many other great things... Have you directly contacted the authors? Nicolas On Jan 7, 2008 8:16 PM, Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I did a walk-through and compiled

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Vadim Peretokin
That's a very nice pdf. One minor thing: User Switching The User Switcher applet shouldn't appear with only one user. I think it should, to let the use familiarize themselves. It'll be a bit disorienting (like where did that come from?) if the applet suddenly appeared after the installation. On

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Fergal Daly
On 07/01/2008, Bryan Quigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just wanted to say awesome job! > A previous effort: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ExplainingUbiquity > > Among the items listed in there and not in yours are: > > Label disks by diskname. Be careful with meaningful names, you need to ensure

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
10GB is more than enough under normal usage. You'd have to install..all of GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment...and it still wouldn't be full. Even with all that and a lot more, I'm at around 7GB full. On Jan 7, 2008 4:05 PM, Mario Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 09:50 +1300

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 09:50 +1300, Jonathan Musther wrote: > One thing I've been thinking would be good for quite some time is > creating separate / and /home partitions by default. While a separate /home makes reinstalls easier, how would you know the size of / the user needs? -- Ubuntu-deve

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Jonathan Musther
One thing I've been thinking would be good for quite some time is creating separate / and /home partitions by default. So when a user selects "Use entire disk", it would create a /home. And certainly when a user creates a / and then creates another partition, it should be /home by default rather

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Evan
I also like the concept of setting the language and keymap at boot. The other minor adjustments in wording etc. also look good. IMHO one of the most important possible adjustments to ubiquity would be to recognize partitions by OS installed, and label them that way. I don't know the code structure

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 09:05 +1300, Jonathan Musther wrote: > Agreed. I don't know why gparted was abandoned, it provided a more > user friendly way to do things. I like the proposal here too! > GParted was abandoned because it was actually just an embedded window rather than an actual componen

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Jonathan Musther
Agreed. I don't know why gparted was abandoned, it provided a more user friendly way to do things. I like the proposal here too! On Jan 8, 2008 9:00 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow, that's very thorough. I particularly like the partitioning > suggestions, since that seems

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
Wow, that's very thorough. I particularly like the partitioning suggestions, since that seems to be the hardest thing to explain, and Partman (that's what's in the new installer right?) feels uncomfortable. Switching from GParted to Partman resulted in a more geeky interface, IMO. I partition with

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Bryan Quigley
I just wanted to say awesome job! A previous effort: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ExplainingUbiquity Among the items listed in there and not in yours are: - Label disks by diskname. - (auto)Magically do timezone (If connected to internet, LinuxMCE can do this) I really like the idea of set

Re: A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Magnus Runesson
On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 20:16 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Hi! > > I did a walk-through and compiled issues, suggestions and several > mockups regarding the Ubuntu installation: > > http://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/ubuntu_installer_thorwil.pdf > > Any comments welcome. I'm willing to

A Look at the Ubuntu Installer

2008-01-07 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Hi! I did a walk-through and compiled issues, suggestions and several mockups regarding the Ubuntu installation: http://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/ubuntu_installer_thorwil.pdf Any comments welcome. I'm willing to refine things where and if there's interest. I could file requests if that