Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-12 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:00:22PM +, TJ wrote: > On 10/03/14 16:14, Dale Amon wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 09:49:02AM +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote: > >> network manager stores its system connection info in a text file in .ini > >> style format in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections > >

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-10 Thread TJ
On 10/03/14 16:14, Dale Amon wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 09:49:02AM +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote: >> network manager stores its system connection info in a text file in .ini >> style format in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections > > Thanks for that pointer... but there is nothing in there a

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-10 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 09:49:02AM +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote: > network manager stores its system connection info in a text file in .ini > style format in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections Thanks for that pointer... but there is nothing in there about eth0, only the WiFi connections past an

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-10 Thread Oliver Grawert
Am Sonntag, den 09.03.2014, 19:53 -0700 schrieb Dale Amon: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 01:32:56PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > I never use network manager but just in case it's of use, check > > out /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services > > Oh my. I find buried in there: > > ~$ cat > /usr/sh

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-09 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 09:57:04AM +0530, Soren Hansen wrote: > interfaces as it would have any other statically configured interface, > because that's what /etc/network/interfaces says it should do. > > When it's ifup'ed again, it gets the right address assigned, but the > dhcp client is still ru

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Soren Hansen
Sorry for sending this to you twice, Bryan, but my first attempt is stuck in the moderation queue. 2014-03-07 1:18 GMT+05:30 Bryan Quigley : > *Network Restart* > I'd like to start by asking each of you what you think is the correct > way to restart networking on Ubuntu server? Feel free to writ

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Dale Amon
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 09:39:40AM -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: > > Lots of us only use a GUI as a place to let us keep 40 > > xterm's available... > > Could you detail what process you are exactly using to do this > reliably? Are you using bonds/vlans/bridging? On my current job, I am using a la

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Dale Amon
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 01:02:33PM +, Robie Basak wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:44:07PM -0800, Dale Amon wrote: > > I often configure laptops that for security have wifi, bluetooth > > etc all turned off at BIOS level, and the only ethernet connection > > is not to the internet but to a d

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Bryan Quigley
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Paul Smith wrote: > I'm not sure this level of detail is needed. > > I've not tried this on Ubuntu, so maybe it already works fine, but > similar to the OP's request on remote Red Hat systems it is always > supported to run: > > service network restart > > and kn

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Bryan Quigley
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Robie Basak wrote: > I don't think it's possible to define "restart networking" in a way that > everybody understands, and in a way that will always work on complex > configurations. > > Instead, I think that we need to focus on *why* you need to "restart > networki

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 09:39 -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Dale Amon wrote: > > The only feature I hold near and dear is that I be able > > to ssh into a server in a rack 8000 miles away, fiddle > > with /etc/network/interfaces if needed, and then reliably > > ifdown

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Bryan Quigley
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Dale Amon wrote: > The only feature I hold near and dear is that I be able > to ssh into a server in a rack 8000 miles away, fiddle > with /etc/network/interfaces if needed, and then reliably > ifdown/ifup one of god knows how many connections (I often > work with m

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, March 07, 2014 12:57:37 Robie Basak wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 01:32:17PM -0800, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > > Why was it necessary to have discussions internally when they could > > have been open by default? > > (wearing both my Canonical and Ubuntu hats) > > Are Canonical emplo

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:44:07PM -0800, Dale Amon wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:32:41PM +0100, Stanisław Hodur wrote: > > *Wifi + Ethernet on Desktop* > > Which reminds me of another common use of machines that a typical > GUI user won't think of. > > I often configure laptops that for se

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:32:41PM +0100, Stanisław Hodur wrote: > If talking about the network, I would add: > > *Wifi + Ethernet on Desktop* > The network gets lost if you have both wireless and Ethernet connection. > The wired network should be the preferred one, as it is usually > faster. Or e

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 01:32:17PM -0800, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > Why was it necessary to have discussions internally when they could > have been open by default? (wearing both my Canonical and Ubuntu hats) Are Canonical employees not allowed to speak to each other now? I think you're being un

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 02:48:52PM -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: > We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking > story and before going to a UDS session [1] it was suggested to post to > ubuntu-devel. > > *Network Restart* > I'd like to star

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:32:41PM +0100, Stanisław Hodur wrote: > *Wifi + Ethernet on Desktop* Which reminds me of another common use of machines that a typical GUI user won't think of. I often configure laptops that for security have wifi, bluetooth etc all turned off at BIOS level, and the onl

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Dale Amon
The only feature I hold near and dear is that I be able to ssh into a server in a rack 8000 miles away, fiddle with /etc/network/interfaces if needed, and then reliably ifdown/ifup one of god knows how many connections (I often work with machines that have 8 or even more hardware ethers, not to me

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, March 06, 2014 14:48:52 Bryan Quigley wrote: > We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking > story and before going to a UDS session [1] it was suggested to post to > ubuntu-devel. > > *Network Restart* > I'd like to start by

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Stanisław Hodur
in should not spoil the connection, as it does now -- I have to disable wireless network manually to get the eth working. Best regards Stanislaus W dniu 2014-03-06 20:48, Bryan Quigley pisze: We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking story and before going to

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
her relevant people. Also, please do not top post, on ubuntu mailing list. Regards, Dimitri. ps. Didn't you part Ubuntu Community?! > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Bryan Quigley > wrote: >> We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking story &g

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Why was it necessary to have discussions internally when they could have been open by default? On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Bryan Quigley wrote: > We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking story > and before going to a UDS session [1] it was suggested

Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Bryan Quigley
We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking story and before going to a UDS session [1] it was suggested to post to ubuntu-devel. *Network Restart* I'd like to start by asking each of you what you think is the correct way to restart networking on Ubuntu ser