Re: Disabling pulseaudio

2013-07-09 Thread Mike Holstein
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 06:37 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: > > Quite honestly, Linux audio is still pretty messy. > > Unfortunately this is true :(. But a lot of this mess is caused by our > community. 1. Why not working on one sound server that is u

Re: Disabling pulseaudio

2013-07-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 06:37 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: > Quite honestly, Linux audio is still pretty messy. Unfortunately this is true :(. But a lot of this mess is caused by our community. 1. Why not working on one sound server that is useful for all tasks instead of working on a new sound server ag

Re: Disabling pulseaudio

2013-07-09 Thread Len Ovens
On Tue, July 9, 2013 12:10 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > IMO the claim that pulseaudio is crap isn't an opinion, but an objective > fact. Even if it shouldn't cause issues after disabling it, the way the > leveling is one (and often not working) is idiotic. IIRC Fons once said > something similar to

Re: Disabling pulseaudio

2013-07-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 01:15 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote: > i can choose to use JACK only, when i have pulse installed.. thats the > way i use my production machine.. "pulse is crap" is an opinion.. > there is nothing wrong with pulse, and no reason to remove it to use > JACK without pulse.. nor is