Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open formats in UK gov?

2014-01-30 Thread Alan Lord
Interesting Proposal from the Cabinet Office: http://standards.data.gov.uk/proposal/sharing-collaborating-government-documents Standards based documents *only*. txt, csv, html4/5, ODF. :-D Al On 29/01/14 21:00, Andres wrote: I guess this is not news for some of you but thought I'd mention

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open formats in UK gov?

2014-01-30 Thread Nigel Verity
The example of the City of Munich is certainly encouraging but the difference in scale between the Munich administration and the UK government is many orders of magnitude. My own view is that there will never be a single strategic decision to move UK government IT infrastructure from

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread alan c
On 29/01/14 21:03, Barry Drake wrote: Hi there ... A couple of weeks ago, I did a BIOS (UEFI) update as requested after reporting a bug. The result was that an installation of Windows 7 which I had on a removable drive died completely and I lost it. How unstable Windows can be at times

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/01/14 11:20, alan c wrote: Congratulations Barry! I am surprised you could hold out so long! I said good bye to Windows years ago now and I actually think my health improved! Yes, really. Hi Alan .. One thing I have to use a Windows program for is to visit my local e-library. I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 30/01/14 16:07, Barry Drake wrote: I've also been looking at the Open Documents thread. I think it was the last time we met, at a government consultation about this issue. Government grinds very slowly Schools are still teaching Microsoft BUT with kids using Android tablets

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread J Fernyhough
On 30 Jan 2014 16:07, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote: Schools are still teaching Microsoft This is changing. Slowly, but it's changing. J -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Bea Groves
Hi! Y'know the comical thing is: when I read the subject line I had a sudden vision of Microsoft finally giving in and going open-source! ;-) On 30/01/14 16:15, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 30/01/14 16:07, Barry Drake wrote: I've also been looking at the Open Documents thread. I think

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread John Oliver
Within schools I think it is important to remember that Microsoft has been outdoing itself to bring educational establishments into migrating to Office365, which when you have Office 2013 and Windows 7 and above is great. It's just not so good with everything else (as the IMAP thread on this

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/01/14 16:34, Bea Groves wrote: Y'know the comical thing is: when I read the subject line I had a sudden vision of Microsoft finally giving in and going open-source! ;-) Nice one! Oh, but if they do that folk might find out that bits of their code are tortuous and outdated

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Gibbs
On 29/01/14 21:03, Barry Drake wrote: When I looked at my very rare need for Windows, I found that I only have occasional need to use Microsoft Word to open a docx file which is heavily formatted and shows complete garbage in Libreoffice, and for the very occasional publisher file I am sent.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/01/14 21:04, Gibbs wrote: I've noticed a lot more people using Libre Office, including big companies like British Gas, which makes life easier for /everyone/. Now that is interesting! Not so many years back, there was a deep suspicion of open source programs. It is excellent complex

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Andres
On 30 de enero de 2014 21:21:18 GMT, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote: On 30/01/14 21:04, Gibbs wrote: I've noticed a lot more people using Libre Office, including big companies like British Gas, which makes life easier for /everyone/. Now that is interesting! Not so many years

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open formats in UK gov?

2014-01-30 Thread Avi Greenbury
Nigel Verity wrote: I think that standardising on open formats is a significant step but it is a long, long way from seeing the likes of LibreOffice running on the typical civil servant's desktop. I don't think that's going to happen. I think office suites will be in web-browsers before LO

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Liam Proven
On 30 January 2014 16:34, Bea Groves beagro...@gmail.com wrote: Y'know the comical thing is: when I read the subject line I had a sudden vision of Microsoft finally giving in and going open-source! ;-) Well, quite. It should have said Windows-free at last! The missing hyphen changes the

[ubuntu-uk] Restricting the Open Internet - is this a threat to Open Source

2014-01-30 Thread Martin Dixon
Hi. Apology if this is out of order, but if as Windows free at last! suggests Microsoft may be peeved at LibreOffice etc they might just try it on. The US and the EU are on the verge of giving rich corporations the right to control what we all see online -- but we can stop it if we build the