Re: C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Doug Ewell
Stuart Brown wrote: >> Pronouncing C? as "D flat" is musically correct, at least in the >> equal-tempered environment, > > I'm astonished at a Unicoder coming to this conclusion! C sharp is C > sharp, and D flat is D flat. To conflate the two on the grounds of > their auditory nature is no diff

Re: vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Ernest Cline
I can't imagine a situation where this would matter for plain text. I suppose one could use the ECMA-48 / ISO 6429 SPD (Select Presentation Direction) control sequence, but that is hardly plain text, altho it isn't quite markup either.

Re: vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 06:09 PM 3/23/2004, Thomas Kuehne wrote: Am Mittwoch 24 März 2004 00:09 schrieb Asmus Freytag: > >Is somebody already using a PUA assignment for vertical text > > direction controls? > I think the idea was that these don't belong in plain text. > Markup languages have had vertical layout control

RE: vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Mike Ayers
Title: RE: vertical direction control > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Thomas Kuehne > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:09 PM > For CJK, old European in-scripts and especially Egyptian hieroglyphs > it would be good to have a common control set - otherwise

Re: vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Am Mittwoch 24 März 2004 00:09 schrieb Asmus Freytag: > >Is somebody already using a PUA assignment for vertical text > > direction controls? > I think the idea was that these don't belong in plain text. > Markup languages have had vertical layout controls forever. The problem arose at very resou

Re: vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 02:55 PM 3/23/2004, Thomas Kuehne wrote: Is somebody already using a PUA assignment for vertical text direction controls? from http://www.unicode.org/faq/bidi.html#1 > [...] the choice of vertical layout is usually treated as a > formatting style; therefore, the Unicode Standard does not define

Problem for the Burmese/Myanmar and Tagalog font selection in IE

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
This message may be out of topic, but it's something which causes me troubles when trying to configure IE to display text written with the Burmese/Myanmerese (and Tagalog as well) script. Apparently IE has a bug in the way it maps these two scripts with appropriate fonts, so that I can only select

vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Is somebody already using a PUA assignment for vertical text direction controls? from http://www.unicode.org/faq/bidi.html#1 > [...] the choice of vertical layout is usually treated as a > formatting style; therefore, the Unicode Standard does not define > default rendering behavior for vertical

New Translation

2004-03-23 Thread Magda Danish \(Unicode\)
A new Croatian translation of “What is Unicode?” has been posted. Check it out at http://www.unicode.org/standard/translations/croatian.html and many thanks to the translator: Stjepan Brbot.     --- Magda Danish Administrative Director The Unicode Consortium 6

Re: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Peter Constable" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Scripts used by Urdu, Panjabi and Bengali are all supported in Unicode. > Urdu can be written using naskh-style Arabic (supported on WinXP, > Win2K...), but users strongly prefer nastaliq. The latter is supported > by the Uniscribe shaping engine; MS ha

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Jon Hanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This clause is informative. > > (...) > > The name C# is pronounced "C Sharp". > > The name C# is written as the LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C (U+0043) followed > > by the NUMBER SIGN # (U+000D). > > End of informative text. > > > Gotta lov

RE: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Peter Constable
Scripts used by Urdu, Panjabi and Bengali are all supported in Unicode. Urdu can be written using naskh-style Arabic (supported on WinXP, Win2K...), but users strongly prefer nastaliq. The latter is supported by the Uniscribe shaping engine; MS has not yet shipped any nastaliq fonts, but some are

Re: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Frank Yung-Fong Tang
Be careful here, for Unicode support in the browser (at least Netscape/Mozilla) there are some code fork between 2000/XP and Win98/ME. Philippe Verdy wrote on 3/23/2004, 5:39 AM: > From: "Edward H. Trager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Also, I would not bother testing Windows OSes prior to Windo

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Jon Hanna
> This clause is informative. > (...) > The name C# is pronounced "C Sharp". > The name C# is written as the LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C (U+0043) followed > by the NUMBER SIGN # (U+000D). > End of informative text. > Gotta love a language with a carriage return in it's name :)

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Jon Hanna
Quoting Philippe Verdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > The file extension is '.cs', since including punctuation marks would > > cause problems on many systems. > > The correct spelling is with a sharp sign, not a number sign, as > > documented by Microsoft themselves in various places: > > > > http://msd

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Benjamin Peterson
> So the name (or trademark?) is meant to be pronounced "sharp" (in > English), > visualized logographically with a sharp symbol, and entered as a hash (#) > symbol > which don't work within file extensions in so many tools. I don't think you understand... the '.c#' file extension to which you r

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
To add to the confusion, the ECMA-334 standard writes in its reference PDF (page 27): This clause is informative. (...) The name C# is pronounced "C Sharp". The name C# is written as the LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C (U+0043) followed by the NUMBER SIGN # (U+000D). End of informat

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
> The file extension is '.cs', since including punctuation marks would > cause problems on many systems. > The correct spelling is with a sharp sign, not a number sign, as > documented by Microsoft themselves in various places: > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/vcsharp/productinfo/faq/default.aspx quo

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Antoine Leca
Philippe Verdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> va escriure: >> The "musical sharp sign," of course, is U+266F, making the correct >> spelling Câ. >From TUS: " These symbols are typically used for text decorations, but they may also be treated as normal text characters in applications such as typesetting chess

Re: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Antoine Leca
Philippe Verdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> va escriure: > From: "Edward H. Trager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Also, I would not bother testing Windows OSes prior to Windows >> 2000/XP. > > Why not? Since it does not even work on these, there is no point testing it on development-dead platforms either.

Re: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Antoine Leca
Hi John, John Snow va escriure: > > I am speaking to a client regarding there website being translated in > to a number of languages including Bengali, Urdu and Punjabi which I > am told is not very well supported by Unicode. This is not true. These languages are supported by Unicode, since the f

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:56:52 +0100, "Philippe Verdy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > From: "Doug Ewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Recently I found an unexpected "Unicode moment" buried in the > > documentation for Microsoft Visual Studio .NET. This was written by > > Bobby Schmidt in 2000. > > > > > Th

[OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Doug Ewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Recently I found an unexpected "Unicode moment" buried in the > documentation for Microsoft Visual Studio .NET. This was written by > Bobby Schmidt in 2000. > > > The name "C sharp" is really spelled as shown in my column's banner > > graphic: The capital l

Re: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Edward H. Trager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Also, I would not bother testing Windows OSes prior to Windows 2000/XP. Why not? Windows 98 and ME are still in use today, and can work on more limited PCs, unlike 2000/XP which requires a newer PC. If you're targetting a population with less reso