Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-06 Thread Warren Samples
On 05/05/2016 04:55 PM, Warren Samples wrote: I'm running openSUSE Leap 42.1 here and finding that Livecode 8 will not launch. The installer worked properly. Launching LiveCode displays the splashscreen followed either by a rapid crash (IDE itself never displays) or a permanent hang at the splas

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-05 Thread Warren Samples
On 05/04/2016 09:12 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0, the first stable release of LiveCode 8. I'm running openSUSE Leap 42.1 here and finding that Livecode 8 will not launch. The installer worked properly. Launching LiveCod

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-05 Thread Ali Lloyd
Hi Andrew, We did indeed consider if the screenshots should be updated. Here is a bug report: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16610 which led to the changes that need to be made being detailed in GitHub issues: https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 , project browser

2016-05-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
The old application browser may work for you It has moved Plugins revApplicationOverview For some of us.. The first thing we do on downloading any recent version of LC is to set this plug-in to open on start up. BR On 5/4/16, 12:22 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Andrew Meit" wrote: >

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 , project browser

2016-05-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Andrew, Perhaps it is good to know that an official request for accessibility features was made almost 8 years ago: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7286 The last note from RunRev staff about this issue dates back to 2014. Kind regards, Mark Schonewille http://economy-x-talk.com ht

[ANN] Release 8.0.0 , project browser

2016-05-04 Thread Andrew Meit
Please, please anyone know how to hack the colors used in the project browser tree? 1. I can barely read the white on blue, needs to be dark grey/black bkgnd 2. all the light grey text needs to be darker or black 3. the eye is hideous, dark grey/black please 4. I can barely see the lock when disa

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 5/4/2016 12:06 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > At this point v6 and v7 have joined v5 and v4 and all other earlier > versions, having reached sustainable end-of-life, still available for > download but no longer maintained. Richard just pointed out another excellent value of LiveCode (at least to m

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread RM
Congratulations. Richmond. On 4.05.2016 17:12, Peter TB Brett wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0, the first stable release of LiveCode 8. Read more about LiveCode 8 here: https://livecode.com/introducing-livecode-8/ Getting the Release ==

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
James Hale wrote: > Hmm, does this mean that LC6 and LC7 are now eol. (Apart from bug > fixes or will these also cease)? Yep, just as they've been telling us for nearly a year, once v8.0 is released the massive technical and financial burden of maintaining three separate versions simultaneousl

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner
Announcement is out in a different thread, too. On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Paul Dupuis wrote: > On 5/4/2016 11:11 AM, James Hale wrote: > > Hmm, does this mean that LC6 and LC7 are now eol. (Apart from bug fixes > or will these also cease)? > > > > I am pretty sure that is exactly what thi

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Andrew Meit
I see now that the lc user guide was shoehorned into the dictionary without considering if the screenshots should be updated…and yes the formal LC user guide has a toc. > On May 4, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Meit wrote: > > Really, wow….the guide….r > > Using many screenshots of the old dicti

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Jim Lambert
LC Team, Congratulations on the release of LC 8.0 - a significant achievement. Bravo. Thanks, Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferen

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 5/4/2016 11:11 AM, James Hale wrote: > Hmm, does this mean that LC6 and LC7 are now eol. (Apart from bug fixes or > will these also cease)? > I am pretty sure that is exactly what this means. LC 6.7.11 and LC 7.1.4 are the last maintenance releases in those versions. LiveCode has stated on the

[ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Andrew Meit
Really, wow….the guide….r Using many screenshots of the old dictionary within the new dictionary/guide! Using a screenshot of an ancient marketing model: Revolution 3.0 for the forums! There is no toc to navigate the guide, sometime pretty basic for a guide. Is the screenshots current for the curr

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
jameshale wrote: > Looking at the pricing page on the website you need to scroll to > the bottom to see the open source version. > Really there should be three columns, GPL (or Community), Indy, > Business > With the features and benefits (and omissions) also listed to include > GPL (or Community

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread James Hale
Hmm, does this mean that LC6 and LC7 are now eol. (Apart from bug fixes or will these also cease)? James ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferenc

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread jameshale
Great news! Congrats to the team, well done. But as Colombo would say, there's just one more thing. Looking at the pricing page on the website you need to scroll to the bottom to see the open source version. Really there should be three columns, GPL (or Community), Indy, Business With the featu

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Roger Eller
Sorry, but I still can not use this for production work. This bug is STILL preventing use in my work environment. [Bug 17374] Database errors appear each time LC 8.0.0 is opened in Win7-x64 in Fusion https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54789013/LC_errors/8.0.0-GM1-error.png Roger Eller Graphi

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 04/05/2016 15:28, Bob Sneidar wrote: They were just waiting for me to finally pay for an indy license. Thank you for subscribing -- it'll help us continue to make LiveCode better for all our users! Peter -- Dr Peter Brett LiveCode Open Source Team LiveCo

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
They were just waiting for me to finally pay for an indy license. Bob S On May 4, 2016, at 06:49 , Dave Kilroy mailto:d...@applicationinsight.com>> wrote: Very well done all of you :D And what a day to do it on! (the force strong with those people in Edinburgh) Dave

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Dave Kilroy
Very well done all of you :D And what a day to do it on! (the force strong with those people in Edinburgh) Dave - "The first 90% of the task takes 90% of the time, and the last 10% takes the other 90% of the time." Peter M. Brigham -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolut

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Mike Kerner
WOOT! WOOT! On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0, the first stable > release of LiveCode 8. > > Read more about LiveCode 8 here: > https://livecode.com/introducing-livecode-8/ > > Getting the Rel

[ANN] Release 8.0.0

2016-05-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0, the first stable release of LiveCode 8. Read more about LiveCode 8 here: https://livecode.com/introducing-livecode-8/ Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

2016-04-13 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 13/04/2016 20:36, Jim Lambert wrote: Here’s an issue I’m seeing with LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X that I have not seen previously. When I launch LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X I get the 'You downloaded this application from the Internet…' security dialog. Usually you just click OK and never see that dialog

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

2016-04-13 Thread Mike Kerner
I'm not experiencing that, at least on 10.10.5 On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: > Here’s an issue I’m seeing with LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X that I have not seen > previously. > > When I launch LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X I get the 'You downloaded this > application from the Internet…' s

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

2016-04-13 Thread Jim Lambert
Here’s an issue I’m seeing with LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X that I have not seen previously. When I launch LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X I get the 'You downloaded this application from the Internet…' security dialog. Usually you just click OK and never see that dialog again. At least that was the case with e

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

2016-04-12 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 13/04/2016 05:40, Mark Wieder wrote: The good news: I no longer am seeing a CEF segfault after closing the dictionary and IDE. My guess is that we are no longer using the CEF browser for the dictionary. We are, in fact, still using the CEF-based browser widget for the dictionary.

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Hibbert
> On Apr 12, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > In addition, if you have Toolbar text enabled and Toolbar icons disabled, the > "Dictionary" text becomes overwritten with after clicking it. That’s the icons showing through, there’s a bug report for it already. http://quality.livecode.c

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

2016-04-12 Thread RM
This is identical to my experience with RC1 on Xubuntu 15.10 64 bit. Richmond. On 13.04.2016 00:23, G.W.Gaich wrote: These are my first experiences with LC 8 and Linux: LiveCode 8.0 (rc1) Linux community 64 bit Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit Try to open the Dictionary. First click on the

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

2016-04-12 Thread Mark Wieder
On 04/12/2016 02:36 PM, panagiotis merakos wrote: PS: Mark Wieder uses a Mint Cinnamon 64 bit, so Mark, if you watch this thread, please add your input :) On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:23 AM, G.W.Gaich wrote: These are my first experiences with LC 8 and Linux: LiveCode 8.0 (rc1) Linux communit

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

2016-04-12 Thread G.W.Gaich
Hi Panos, you can download the VM at https://cloud.gaich.de:4/owncloud/index.php/s/CVQBX4MclZCRUfZ It's compressed with 7Zip, the user in Linux Mint is test and the password is testtest Am 13.04.2016 um 00:31 schrieb G.W.Gaich: Hi Panos, thank you for your reply. I will file a bug repor

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

2016-04-12 Thread G.W.Gaich
Hi Panos, thank you for your reply. I will file a bug report tomorrow. Just installed a fresh VM Linux Mint 17.3 (VirtualBox). Did only install LC 8 (rc1) and have a similar behavior. The dictionary window is an empty rectangle without tabs. Same message box when I try to exit LiveCode. Have

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

2016-04-12 Thread panagiotis merakos
Hi Günter, We have a Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit VM in the office, which was used to test the Dictionary functionality before releasing LiveCode 8 RC-1. I did not experience any of these problems. I suggest you file a bug report (http://quality.livecode.com/) so as we investigate this further

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

2016-04-12 Thread G.W.Gaich
These are my first experiences with LC 8 and Linux: LiveCode 8.0 (rc1) Linux community 64 bit Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit Try to open the Dictionary. First click on the dictionary icon: Nothing happens Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the window is empty.

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

2016-04-12 Thread Roger Eller
Sending bug reports 'again' for Windows and Android issues which still persist. I'm sure it's fine for iOS and Mac though. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0 RC 1. > > Getting the Release > ==

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

2016-04-12 Thread RM
This looks exciting. On 12.04.2016 20:07, Peter TB Brett wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0 RC 1. Xubuntu 15.10 64 bit. 1. Documentation is STILL a "dead duck": Bug 16848 2. Livecode UI elements not appearing in the Application browser: Bug 1

[ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

2016-04-12 Thread Peter TB Brett
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0 RC 1. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8 has a host of exciting new f

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-23 Thread RM
Well; "burger', "cog" or something else? Personally a start might be to have the "cog" (if that's what we are going to have) with a lot more contrast against its background, or even "Heaven forfend" in a different colour. Richmond. On 23.02.2016 20:18, J. Landman Gay wrote: On February 23,

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On February 23, 2016 5:21:55 AM RM wrote: I notice that in Firefox and Thunderbird they use an odd, 3 horizontal lines sort of icon: neither worse nor better than the revTools cog . . . That's a standard icon on Android at least, and it represents a list, usually in the form of a menu. In And

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-23 Thread Ali Lloyd
Ah, well I imagine you would have tried it had it been there - it appears to be also missing from the tools palette in the image attached to your bug report! On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:20 AM RM wrote: > > > On 23.02.2016 13:08, Ali Lloyd wrote: > > The tools palette settings menu pops up when

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-23 Thread RM
On 23.02.2016 13:08, Ali Lloyd wrote: The tools palette settings menu pops up when you click the 'cog' icon at the top right of the tools palette. Um . . . I wonder if that is as intuitive as your interface developers think it is? All sections are set to visible, and if you take a look at

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-23 Thread Ali Lloyd
The tools palette settings menu pops up when you click the 'cog' icon at the top right of the tools palette. On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM RM wrote: > > > On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote: > > Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools > > palette settings? > > >

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-23 Thread RM
On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote: Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools palette settings? Where would I find the "submenu of the tools palette setting" ? I have searched throughout and cannot locate that. Richmond. __

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread William Prothero
Peter: Thanks! No big rush. Bill > On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > On 22/02/2016 18:37, William Prothero wrote: >> Peter: > >> I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is >> there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The >> w

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread panagiotis merakos
>>> LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 15 ... and 45 bug fixes! Why only 45? I see 53 here (without the duplicates): http://quality.livecode.com/buglist.cgi?list_id=51971&query_format=advanced&token=1456178232-f63548a008c88a1a2a1dc62212585e14&target_milestone=8.0.0-dp-15 Panos -- On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:41 P

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 22/02/2016 18:37, William Prothero wrote: Peter: I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as will the incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread [-hh]
> Peter B. wrote: > Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of > LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 15 ... and 45 bug fixes! What a british understatement for a preview, that's more a release candidate (we are still in dot-dot state). Especially the HTML5 part. I'm testing since three hours: = T

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread Ali Lloyd
Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools palette settings? On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:48 PM RM wrote: > > > On 22.02.2016 21:40, RM wrote: > > Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 > > it offered to upgrade me > > to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread RM
On 22.02.2016 21:40, RM wrote: Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 it offered to upgrade me to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3. I see that on Linux 64 bit the Dictionary still "isn't" but as that is projected to be sorted out for the first Release candidate I'm not fu

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread RM
Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 it offered to upgrade me to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3. I see that on Linux 64 bit the Dictionary still "isn't" but as that is projected to be sorted out for the first Release candidate I'm not fussed. What IS worrying is that al

Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread William Prothero
Peter: I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as will the incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets. Bill William Prothero, Ph.D. University of Ca

[ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread Peter TB Brett
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 15. Developer Preview Release = Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure you back up your stacks before testing them. *IMPORTANT*: It is especially vital that you back up your s