[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread Ravi Jayagopal
To add to my earlier post: If I receive an email that says "Undisclosed Recipients" or someone else's email address in the "To" field, and my address is nowhere to be found, I know that I'm dealing with, 1. A spammer 2. A rank newbie 3. Someone who just doesn't care enough to learn about what they

[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread Ravi Jayagopal
I'm joining this half way through - so bear with me if this is not what you want. Using BCC is not only more than likedly to get caught by a spam filter, as R'twick rightly pointed out, but more importantly it is plain Unprofessional! If you want results from your email marketing (consider every em

[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread Steve Miller
oops, guilty of not reading! thanks > From: "R'twick Niceorgaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:39:18 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail > > On 19 Jun 2003 at 11:15

[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread R'twick Niceorgaw
On 19 Jun 2003 at 11:15, Steve Miller wrote: > Thanks for the comments John. > > > > > > > First, you should cut down on how many times you have to touch sendmail. > > Instead of sending one email for each user, why not throw 10 users > > into the bcc field (keep that number low to stay below S

[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread Stephen Caudill
Steve Miller bespaketh on Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:15 AM: > Thanks for the comments John. >> > >> >> First, you should cut down on how many times you have to touch >> sendmail. Instead of sending one email for each user, why not throw >> 10 users into the bcc field (keep that number low to st

[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread Steve Miller
Thanks for the comments John. > > > First, you should cut down on how many times you have to touch sendmail. > Instead of sending one email for each user, why not throw 10 users > into the bcc field (keep that number low to stay below SPAM software, > and in bcc, it hides the email addresses fro

[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread John Nichel
Steve Miller wrote: Hi all, I have written a small php script which pulls email addresses (about 1000) from my online db and sends a small html email newsletter (this is not spam but a weekly member update). Normally, I would not worry about having enough time to loop 1000 times through a section

[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread Stephen Caudill
Jon Haworth bespaketh on Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:49 AM: > Hi R'twick, > >> Why not put all email addresses in Cc field >> and send it at once? > > Unfortunately many mail servers will dump any message with excessive > CCs or BCCs, as they're mostly spam. I have no idea what thresholds > peopl

[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread Steve Miller
Dedicated mail list is worth looking into, but I thought this would be easier (might not). As for the cc field, I didn't want a whole list of recipients to show up on each email. steve >> > > Why not put all email addresses in Cc field and send it at once? Unless you > are > creating member

[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi R'twick, > Why not put all email addresses in Cc field > and send it at once? Unfortunately many mail servers will dump any message with excessive CCs or BCCs, as they're mostly spam. I have no idea what thresholds people are using for "excessive", but I would have guessed at something more li

[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread R'twick Niceorgaw
On 19 Jun 2003 at 9:54, Steve Miller wrote: > Hi all, > > I have written a small php script which pulls email addresses (about 1000) > from my online db and sends a small html email newsletter (this is not spam > but a weekly member update). Normally, I would not worry about having enough > time

[wdvltalk] RE: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread Steve Miller
Thanks Jon and Stephen. Some good ideas to look into. I like the idea of changing the timeout, but not sure if the host will! Putting myself last on the list makes a lot of sense. I think I will have to do the test and send myself 1000 emails (yikes!) and see what happens. steve >> > Steve (ti

[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Steve, > 1) should I be concerned about a timeout Probably :-) You could always have your script send an email to your address right at the end, and if that arrives then at least it's not timing out. If your host allows it, you can override the 30 second limit using this at the top of your s

[wdvltalk] RE: php and sendmail

2003-06-19 Thread Stephen Caudill
Steve Miller bespaketh on Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:54 AM: > Hi all, > > I have written a small php script which pulls email addresses (about > 1000) from my online db and sends a small html email newsletter (this > is not spam but a weekly member update). Normally, I would not worry > about havi