Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-27 Thread 林 諺
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Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Alexey Proskuryakov
03.02.2013, в 11:46, Adam Barth написал(а): > Yeah, another example is ResourceHandle, which is theoretically a > platform-agnostic abstraction but in reality is heavily constrained by > the capabilities of CFNetwork. Can you please give some examples of where we are constrained by this? Perhap

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread noam . rosenthal
On 2/3/13 11:12 PM, "ext Maciej Stachowiak" wrote: >> Maybe the problem is less about the WK1 API layer and more about >> WebCore/platform. > >I'm sure that's one problem, but I am still curious what Eric had in mind. Yes, me too, and I don't mean to hijack that conversation :) >> In many othe

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >> >> Yeah, another example is ResourceHandle, which is theoretically a >> platform-agnostic abstraction but in reality is heavily constrained by >> the capabilities of CFNetwork. > > To be pre

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:34 AM, noam.rosent...@nokia.com wrote: > > > On 2/3/13 7:46 PM, "ext Maciej Stachowiak" wrote: > >> If you're asking about phasing it out entirely, we don't have any >> immediate plans to deprecate or remove the WebKit1 mac API. There are >> quite a few Apple and third-p

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:34 AM, wrote: >> On 2/3/13 7:46 PM, "ext Maciej Stachowiak" wrote: >>>If you're asking about phasing it out entirely, we don't have any >>>immediate plans to deprecate or remove the WebKit1 mac API. There are >>>quit

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:34 AM, wrote: > On 2/3/13 7:46 PM, "ext Maciej Stachowiak" wrote: >>If you're asking about phasing it out entirely, we don't have any >>immediate plans to deprecate or remove the WebKit1 mac API. There are >>quite a few Apple and third-party apps using it, and WebKit2 i

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread noam . rosenthal
On 2/3/13 7:46 PM, "ext Maciej Stachowiak" wrote: >If you're asking about phasing it out entirely, we don't have any >immediate plans to deprecate or remove the WebKit1 mac API. There are >quite a few Apple and third-party apps using it, and WebKit2 is not even >public API on Mac OS X currently

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Feb 2, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >> >>> I wish WebCore was not trapped by Mac WebKit1’s legacy designs. >>> >>> WebKit2 is obviously a step towards the future. But until we can kill the >>> Widget tree, the insanely f

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-02 Thread Eric Seidel
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Alexis Menard wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: >> I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). >> >> I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 are an >> unhealthy sign for the project.

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-02 Thread Eric Seidel
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Patrick Gansterer wrote: > Hi, > > Am 30.01.2013 um 22:28 schrieb Eric Seidel: > > I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). > > > I've created CMake files for two different ports at [1] and [2] already, but > did't get positive f

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-02 Thread Eric Seidel
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Xan Lopez wrote: > Hi Eric, > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: >> I wish we didn’t have to worry about platforms we couldn’t test. >> >> It can’t be the job of the core maintainers to care about all the peripheral >> ports which contribute ve

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-02 Thread Eric Seidel
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > These are great thoughts. I agree with you on all points. One informative > comment below: > > On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > > I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files)

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-02 Thread Eric Seidel
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Filip Pizlo wrote: > Thanks for sharing this. > > On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > > I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). > > I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 are an > unhealthy

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-31 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Alexis Menard wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > > > > I wish we didn’t have to worry about platforms we couldn’t test. > > > > It can’t be the job of the core maintainers to care about all the > peripheral > > ports which contribute v

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-31 Thread Alexis Menard
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). > > I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 are an > unhealthy sign for the project. Adam is not the only person who has chosen > to empty files

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Žan Doberšek
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > I wish it were easy to work on feature branches. > > We have no good solution for features. For one-patch features, you do them > on your own. For larger, you maybe use github or most likely you just land > on trunk behind a #define. None o

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Dirk Pranke
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Filip Pizlo wrote: > Thanks for sharing this. > > On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > > I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). > > I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 are an > unhealthy

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Patrick Gansterer
Hi, Am 30.01.2013 um 22:28 schrieb Eric Seidel: > I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). I've created CMake files for two different ports at [1] and [2] already, but did't get positive feedback from the port-maintainer. So I stopped working on it. If any p

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > * > I wish I felt like reviewers understood/trusted each other more. > > * > *I’ve worked at both Apple and Google. The WebKit community is full of > brilliant engineers. Yet I frequently feel a lack of trust in my (or > others) judgement, o

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Xan Lopez
Hi Eric, On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > I wish we didn’t have to worry about platforms we couldn’t test. > > It can’t be the job of the core maintainers to care about all the peripheral > ports which contribute very little core code. Our code needs to be > structured in su

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
Hi Eric, These are great thoughts. I agree with you on all points. One informative comment below: On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). > > I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 a

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Filip Pizlo
Thanks for sharing this. On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). > > I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 are an > unhealthy sign for the project. Adam is not the only person who ha

[webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Eric Seidel
*I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files).* * I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 are an unhealthy sign for the project. Adam is not the only person who has chosen to empty files instead of removing them. The pain of updating 8 build sy