On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Michael Nordman wrote:
>>
>> In section "6.6.6 Changes to the networking model" which applies to sub
>> resource loads, step 3 prevents returning fallback resources for
>> requested urls that fall into a network namespace.
On 2/1/11 11:47 AM, Adam de Boor wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Patrick Mueller wrote:
On 8/12/10 6:29 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 19 May 2010, Patrick Mueller wrote:
I've been playing with application cache for a while now, and found
the
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Patrick Mueller wrote:
> > On 8/12/10 6:29 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > > On Wed, 19 May 2010, Patrick Mueller wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've been playing with application cache for a while now, and found
> > > > the diagnostic
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> It appears you're actually talking about ClickOnce manifests, not SxS
> manifests (though they use the same format).
>
(In that particular case, SxS manifests distributed standalone for people to
drop into application installations when troub
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, Alexey Proskuryakov wrote:
>>
>> In definitions of application cache entry categories, it's mentioned
>> that an explicit entry can also be marked as foreign. This contrasts
>> with fallback entries, for which no such notic
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> >
> > Given that SxS manifests don't seem like they'd ever be something
> > you'd want to make available to download standalone, and that if you
> > were going to expose them to a user you'd want a
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> >
> > > > That's far too generic for servers to default to mapping *.manifest
> > > > to text/cache-manifest. For example, Windows uses *.man
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, Alexey Proskuryakov wrote:
>
> In definitions of application cache entry categories, it's mentioned
> that an explicit entry can also be marked as foreign. This contrasts
> with fallback entries, for which no such notice is made.
>
> It still appears that the intention was
* Glenn Maynard wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
>> > That's far too generic for servers to default to mapping *.manifest to
>> > text/cache-manifest. For example, Windows uses *.manifest for SxS
>> > assembly manifests.
>>
>> Do they have a MIME type? If not, it doesn'
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
>
> > > That's far too generic for servers to default to mapping *.manifest
> > > to text/cache-manifest. For example, Windows uses *.manifest for
> > > SxS assembly manifests.
> >
> > Do they have
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > That's far too generic for servers to default to mapping *.manifest to
> > text/cache-manifest. For example, Windows uses *.manifest for SxS
> > assembly manifests.
>
> Do they have a MIME type? If not, it doesn't much matter.
>
It does if
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, David John Burrowes wrote:
> > >
> > > I can understand wanting to do things right, in terms of using
> > > Content-Type for the file. I can also attest that it can be a royal
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, David John Burrowes wrote:
> >
> > I can understand wanting to do things right, in terms of using
> > Content-Type for the file. I can also attest that it can be a royal
> > pain to diagnose when this is set wrong. I won
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Patrick Mueller wrote:
> On 8/12/10 6:29 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> > >
> > > XML would be much too complex for what is needed. We could possibly
> > > remove the media type check and resort to using the "CACHE MANIFEST"
> > >
On 2010/8/13, at 上午6:42, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:02:01 +0200, Patrick Mueller
> wrote:
>> On 8/12/10 6:29 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
>>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
XML would be much too complex for what is needed. We could possibly
remove the me
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:02:01 +0200, Patrick Mueller
wrote:
On 8/12/10 6:29 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
XML would be much too complex for what is needed. We could possibly
remove the media type check and resort to using the "CACHE MANIFEST"
identifier (
On 8/12/10 6:29 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 19 May 2010, Patrick Mueller wrote:
I've been playing with application cache for a while now, and found the
diagnostic information available to be sorely lacking.
For example, to diagnose user-land errors that occur when using
appcache, this is t
On 8/12/10 6:29 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
XML would be much too complex for what is needed. We could possibly
remove the media type check and resort to using the "CACHE MANIFEST"
identifier (i.e. "sniffing"), but the HTTP gods will get angry.
Yeah,
On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
>> These quotas are often global, some kind of user setting, or are
>> per-origin. Application Caches are missing such a quota.
>>
>> The entire "Disk Space" section of Web SQL Databases could equally apply
>> to Application Caches: http://dev.w3.
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Alexey Proskuryakov wrote:
>
> There seems to be a race condition in how application cache groups are
> marked obsolete. Consider the following scenario:
>
> 1. A document is loaded from server, an appcache is fully created.
> 2. Appcache update is initiated (e.g. by calling
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Joseph Pecoraro wrote:
> >
> > We could delay the application cache download process so that it
> > doesn't start until after the 'load' event has fired. Does anyone have
> > an opinion on this?
>
> It seems pointless to provide hooks in the API that allow for a "custom
>
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Joseph Pecoraro wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:44:01 +0100, Ian Hickson wrote:
> >> We could delay the application cache download process so that it doesn't
> >> start until after the 'load' event has fired. Does anyone have an opinion
> >> on this?
>
> On Dec 17, 2009, a
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:44:01 +0100, Ian Hickson wrote:
>> We could delay the application cache download process so that it doesn't
>> start until after the 'load' event has fired. Does anyone have an opinion
>> on this?
On Dec 17, 2009, at 5: 24PM, Michael Nordman wrote:
> I don't think we'd ha
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:44:01 +0100, Ian Hickson wrote:
We could delay the application cache download process so that it doesn't
start until after the 'load' event has fired. Does anyone have an opinion
on this?
I believe we (Opera) found this is what at least some implementations are
doing n
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Joseph Pecoraro wrote:
> On Dec 17, 2009, at 4: 44PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
>
> Another conforming sequence of events would be:
>
> 1. The parser's first parsing task begins.
> 2. As soon as the manifest="" attribute is parsed, the application cache
> download process
On Dec 17, 2009, at 4: 44PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> Another conforming sequence of events would be:
>
> 1. The parser's first parsing task begins.
> 2. As soon as the manifest="" attribute is parsed, the application cache
> download process begins. It queues a task to dispatch the 'checking'
> eve
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Alexey Proskuryakov wrote:
>
> Recently, a new step was prepended to the application cache update
> algorithm:
>
> "1. Optionally, wait until the permission to start the application cache
> download process has been obtained from the user and until the user
> agent is confid
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