Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header (Boris Zbarsky)

2012-03-31 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On 6 February 2012 19:24, Irakli Nadareishvili wrote: > Boris, > > if you don't mind me saying it, I am afraid you may be missing the point of > this request. In Responsive Web Design, device capabilities are used in a > high-level fashion to determine a class of the device: smartphone, tablet,

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header (Boris Zbarsky)

2012-03-30 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Irakli Nadareishvili wrote: > if you don't mind me saying it, I am afraid you may be missing the point of > this request. In Responsive Web Design, device capabilities are used in a > high-level fashion to determine a class of the device: smartphone, tablet, > de

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header (Boris Zbarsky)

2012-02-06 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
2012/2/6 Kornel Lesiński > On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:00:45 -, Irakli Nadareishvili > wrote: > > 1. Adaptive images: >> To optimize user-experience on smart-phones (most of which have >> relatively small screens, and are on slow connections most of the time) >> > > Be careful with generalizatio

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header (Boris Zbarsky)

2012-02-06 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 2/6/12 5:21 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: I can't remember where right now, but I do recall seeing an article which said that it was a common misconception that mobile devices were most often on a slow connection. Personally, I tend to make most use of my mobile for browsing when I'm on a wireles

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header (Boris Zbarsky)

2012-02-06 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 22:16 +, Kornel Lesiński wrote: > On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:00:45 -, Irakli Nadareishvili > wrote: > > > 1. Adaptive images: > > To optimize user-experience on smart-phones (most of which have > > relatively small screens, and are on slow connections most of the ti

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header (Boris Zbarsky)

2012-02-06 Thread Kornel Lesiński
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:00:45 -, Irakli Nadareishvili wrote: 1. Adaptive images: To optimize user-experience on smart-phones (most of which have relatively small screens, and are on slow connections most of the time) Be careful with generalizations like that. Mobile devices can be con

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header (Boris Zbarsky)

2012-02-06 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 2/6/12 3:00 PM, Irakli Nadareishvili wrote: 1. Adaptive images: To optimize user-experience on smart-phones (most of which have relatively small screens, and are on slow connections most of the time) we need to send lower-resolution or resized versions of high-resolution images that would be

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header (Boris Zbarsky)

2012-02-06 Thread Irakli Nadareishvili
Boris, fair enough. Two use-cases off of my head that do not currently have a non-ugly solution and could if browsers reported device class: 1. Adaptive images: To optimize user-experience on smart-phones (most of which have relatively small screens, and are on slow connections most of the ti

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header (Boris Zbarsky)

2012-02-06 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 2/6/12 2:24 PM, Irakli Nadareishvili wrote: if you don't mind me saying it, I am afraid you may be missing the point of this request. I certainly hope I am! What I understood the request to be doesn't make any sense. In Responsive Web Design, device capabilities are used in a high-leve

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header (Boris Zbarsky)

2012-02-06 Thread Irakli Nadareishvili
Boris, if you don't mind me saying it, I am afraid you may be missing the point of this request. In Responsive Web Design, device capabilities are used in a high-level fashion to determine a class of the device: smartphone, tablet, desktop. There is no need for exact viewport state. All the ima