[Wien] Question regarding volume optimization

2013-06-19 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear wien2k users, I have a query regarding volume optimization in wien2k. "Option 1" optimizes the volume by keeping a:b:c = constant. Now my question is: in which case this "Option 1" is applicable?...is it only applicable for cubic symmetry? Any response in this regard will be helpful for

Re: [Wien] Question regarding volume optimization

2013-06-19 Thread Stefaan Cottenier
I have a query regarding volume optimization in wien2k. "Option 1" optimizes the volume by keeping a:b:c = constant. Now my question is: in which case this "Option 1" is applicable?...is it only applicable for cubic symmetry? You can use it for any crystal. Very often, the total energy will

Re: [Wien] Question regarding volume optimization

2013-06-19 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear Stefaan Cottenier Sir, Thank you very much for your response. We got our answer. with regards, On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Stefaan Cottenier < stefaan.cotten...@ugent.be> wrote: > > I have a query regarding volume optimization in wien2k. "Option 1" >> optimizes the vol

[Wien] basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Stefaan Cottenier
Dear wien2k community, I'm puzzled by the following observation about convergence tests for a molecular crystal built entirely from O2-molecules (two O2-molecules per unit cell): the basis set needs to be particularly large before even the the volume of the unit cell can be reliably determine

[Wien] Fwd: Question regarding volume optimization

2013-06-19 Thread shamik chakrabarti
-- Forwarded message -- From: shamik chakrabarti Date: Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [Wien] Question regarding volume optimization To: Shamik Chakrabarti Dear Stefan Cottenier Sir, I have another question regarding optimization of a,b,c (3D case) using "option

Re: [Wien] basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Laurence Marks
What you find is about consistent with my observations. I would say that for an RMT of 0.5 a fairly good calculation is roughly an RKMAX of 3.5, and for an RMT of 2.0 an RKMAX of 8. As a rough guide this corresponds to (linear approximation) RKMAX = 3.5 + 3*(RMT_min-0.5) This is a crude estimate,

Re: [Wien] basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Stefaan Cottenier
What you find is about consistent with my observations. I would say that for an RMT of 0.5 a fairly good calculation is roughly an RKMAX of 3.5, and for an RMT of 2.0 an RKMAX of 8. It depends of course on what you're looking at, but these look to be rather conservative values. The default RK

Re: [Wien] basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Laurence Marks
> This would imply that simply rescaling the RKMAX ("RKMAX=8.0 for RMT=2.0 > corresponds to RKMAX=4.0 for RMT=1.0") yields a calculation that is > effectively *less* accurate. Yes, I am 99.9% certain that it is not a simple linear scaling. If it was then with H and an RMT of 0.5 then RKMAX=1.75 wo

[Wien] Fwd: Question regarding volume optimization

2013-06-19 Thread shamik chakrabarti
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[Wien] ElaStic_1.0 is Available

2013-06-19 Thread Rostam Golesorkhtabar
Dear Prof. Blaha and WIEN2k users, I am happy to announce here the first version of the ElaStic code is available. ElaStic is an open-source Python implementation for the calculations of elastic constants of crystalline materials. It can be used to obtain full second-order elastic tensors for all

[Wien] ElaStic_1.0 is Available

2013-06-19 Thread Rostam Golesorkhtabar
Dear Prof. Blaha and WIEN2k users, I am happy to announce here the first version of the ElaStic code is available. ElaStic is an open-source Python implementation for the calculations of elastic constants of crystalline materials. It can be used to obtain full second-order elastic tensors for all

Re: [Wien] basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Peter Blaha
Well, at http://www.wien2k.at/reg_user/faq/rkmax.html it even says you need RKmax=6.5 for O. On the other hand I do not understand the following: >> The table lists the RKMax value, the matrix size, the corresponding >> RKMax if the muffin tin radius would be 2.0 (that gives a better feeling

Re: [Wien] basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Pask, John E.
Dear all, Perhaps it is worthwhile to reiterate the basic reason APW based methods typically use RKmax to determine sufficient planewave convergence rather than Kmax (for the less experienced users, at least): for a given atom, the wavefunctions become more rapidly oscillatory, in both angular

Re: [Wien] SURVEY + basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Stefaan Cottenier
[note: short survey included -- you're kindly asked to fill it out] The combined answers by Marks/Blaha/Pask were very instructive. Thanks! It made me aware of a misconception I have been carrying with me for years: RKMax is more than just a warped way of presenting K_max. Taking K_max as t

Re: [Wien] Fwd: Question regarding volume optimization

2013-06-19 Thread Stefaan Cottenier
I have another question regarding optimization of a,b,c (3D case) using "option 6". We can generate several structures by varying say 1% of the initial lattice parameters. Then my question is (1) how those 3 lattice parameters are varied to generate structures? say, two successive files

Re: [Wien] basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Laurence Marks
What you say may be appropriate for a single element. But...to complicate the issue, suppose I have bulk MgO, H2O (gas) & bulk Mg(OH)2 where the RMTs are Mg=1.6, O=1.2, H=0.5 and I want to calculate the thermodynamics of the reaction MgO+H2O -> Mg(OH)2. In such a case a fixed RKmax will give diffe

Re: [Wien] basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Pask, John E.
> What you say may be appropriate for a single element. In the context of multiple species, one must consider the most limiting species, i.e., the one which requires largest RKmax to converge to desired accuracy. That RKmax is then sufficient for all. > But...to complicate the issue, suppose I

Re: [Wien] basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Laurence Marks
Remember, for MgO and Mg(OH)2 in the example I gave Rmt (the minimum RMT for all the atoms) is not the same. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Pask, John E. wrote: > >> What you say may be appropriate for a single element. > > In the context of multiple species, one must consider the most limiting

Re: [Wien] basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Pask, John E.
> Remember, for MgO and Mg(OH)2 in the example I gave Rmt (the minimum > RMT for all the atoms) is not the same. Yes, if that is the case, that is important indeed. My answer assumed the fixed Rmt's you specified (Mg=1.6, O=1.2, H=0.5) present in calculations. John > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 a

Re: [Wien] Fwd: Question regarding volume optimization

2013-06-19 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear Stefaan Cottenier Sir, Thank you for your response. It will be helpful for us. with regards, On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Stefaan Cottenier < stefaan.cotten...@ugent.be> wrote: > > I have another question regarding optimization of a,b,c (3D case) >> using "option

Re: [Wien] basis set size for oxygen crystal

2013-06-19 Thread Peter Blaha
When we talk about "fixed" RKmax, it is better to talk about fixed RKmax(atom). Lets take your example: We do H2O with RKmax=3 (case.in1) and the RMTs listed below (1.2 ad 0.5). This statement implies RKmax(H)= 3, but RKmax(O)= 1.2/0.5*3= 7.2 !!! Thus one would do H2O and Mg(OH)2 with "RKMAX