Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editors: research on transitions, learning over time, leaving

2017-03-22 Thread Kerry Raymond
> A few years ago the WMF did a survey of former editors, partly to > learn why they'd left. One of the most common responses was "I haven't left > yet". With the benefit of hindsight (a wonderful thing), that might be a bad way to have asked the question. A better way might have been to ask wh

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editors: research on transitions, learning over time, leaving

2017-03-22 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
I know that I was recruited to Wikipedia from then-competitor everything2, it would be interesting to find active users who joined during E2's precipitous decline, match their accounts and compare editing styles. cheers stuart On Tuesday, March 21, 2017, WereSpielChequers wrote: > Dear Jan, > >

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Wikidata] The basis for Wikidata quality

2017-03-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You are conflating two things that are not related. ORES is really helpful and there is plenty of room for it to function extremely well on Wikidata. Yes, ORES will do good things for Wikidata but it is separated from the proposed item quality. When an item is created because of the existence

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Wikidata] The basis for Wikidata quality

2017-03-22 Thread Aaron Halfaker
Hey wiki-research-l folks, Gerard didn't actually link you to the quality criteria he takes issue with. See https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Item_quality I think Gerard's argument basically boils down to Wikidata != Wikipedia, but it's unclear how that is relevant to the goal of measuring

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Wikidata] The basis for Wikidata quality

2017-03-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What I have read is that it will be individual items that are graded. That is not what helps you determine what items are lacking in something. When you want to determine if something is lacking you need a relational approach. When you approach a award like this one [1], it was added to make t

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The basis for Wikidata quality

2017-03-22 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > In your reply I find little argument why this approach is useful. I do not > find a result that is actionable. There is little point to this approach > and it does not fit with well with much of the Wikidata practice. Gerard, the outcome

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The basis for Wikidata quality

2017-03-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you consider the "collaroborative dimension", it is utterly different for Wikidata. An example: I just added a few statements to Dorothy Tarrant [1].For several of those statements I added hundreds of similar statements on other items. In order to add the award I had to add the award firs

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The basis for Wikidata quality

2017-03-22 Thread Piscopo A .
Hi GerardM I don’t know if I am one of the researchers you mention in your email, but I have indeed carried out research around Wikidata quality and still am. I asked the community to help me gather different point of views over what data quality means on Wikidata in a RfC a couple of months ago