Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia

2019-07-05 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:11 PM Ocean Power wrote: > What about Australian indigenous songs that trace the path of songlines > that both document collective history and folk knowledge and also > rhythmically document land contours and other landmarks as a > map/timeline/travel guide and often

Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia

2019-07-05 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Technically these are primary sources when they are first recorded / written down. The first recorded / written theorizing about them is secondary. Reporting on a concensus reached by that theorizing is tertiary. Assuming that the singing, theorizing and reporting is done by different parties.

Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia

2019-07-05 Thread Ocean Power
What about Australian indigenous songs that trace the path of songlines that both document collective history and folk knowledge and also rhythmically document land contours and other landmarks as a map/timeline/travel guide and often compile folkloric and secondary and primary knowledge over

Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia

2019-07-05 Thread Kerry Raymond
The current mechanisms would allow anyone to alter the Indigenous content in an article. That is unlikely to be acceptable to Ingenenous Australians. This is why I propose a sister project with different rules to create such content and then import it into en.WP etc as an unalterable unit into

Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia

2019-07-05 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Hi Samuel Can you provide examples of tertiary sources from pure oral cultures? I've never heard of any. Cheers Stuart On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 1:19 am Samuel Klein wrote: > I think we have all the mechanics needed for this. > > - Individual revisions aren't editable, once posted, and stay around >

Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia

2019-07-05 Thread Samuel Klein
I think we have all the mechanics needed for this. - Individual revisions aren't editable, once posted, and stay around forever (unless revdeleted). - Each wiki can have its own guidelines for how accounts can be shared. - Rather than limiting who can edit, you could have a whitelist of

[Wiki-research-l] Firewall on stat100x and notebook100x hosts

2019-07-05 Thread Luca Toscano
TL;DR: In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170826 the Analytics team wants to add base firewall rules to stat100x and notebook100x hosts, that will cause any non-localhost or known traffic to be blocked by default. Please let us know in the task if this is a problem for you. Hi everybody, the