Re: [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to Commons

2015-08-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
James Heald, 27/08/2015 11:29: I believe we have clear policy on only sitelinking commons categories to category-like items, and commons galleries to article-like items; No, we don't, or at least none has been shown. Please don't spread unsubstantiated policy claims. Nemo __

Re: [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to Commons

2015-08-28 Thread Romaine Wiki
As I wrote before, that thought is too simple. You only say that a zero belongs to a zero, and a two belongs to a two, then you only describe the type of page, but you ignore the subject of a page. That subject matters much more than the namespace number. Especially Wikinews is a wrong example, as

Re: [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to Commons

2015-08-28 Thread Romaine Wiki
I think this subject should also be discussed on the Commons mailing list, as this plan is to demolish the navigational structure of Commons. 2015-08-27 15:03 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki : > No we have not a clear policy on only linking sitelinks to categories if > the item itself is about a category.

Re: [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to Commons

2015-08-28 Thread Yongmin Hong
People never use gallery to browse image. They just use Category. It is rather irrationale thing to make people do more work to find the maintained list of Commons images. Accept the fact Commons does not actively use Gallery on our image structure system. Category is the only system Commons use.

Re: [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to Commons

2015-08-28 Thread Luca Martinelli
2015-08-28 12:09 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki : > And I agree completely with what Revi says: >> Wikidata ignores this Commons' fact by trying to enforce ridiculous rules >> like this. It's not such a ridiculous rule, if you think of the rationale behind it: if gallery = ns0 and category = ns2, linking

Re: [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to Commons

2015-08-28 Thread Romaine Wiki
> What we need is clarity and systematic consistency. Then it is an easy step to adjust the user-presentation to do the right thing. The only way to get that is a software change. Your proposal might bring "systematic consistency" but also breaks almost the complete navigational structure from Co

Re: [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to Commons

2015-08-28 Thread Hong, Yongmin
Gallery is dumb and it sucks, nobody should sitelink to gallery. Just use category and never ever link to gallery. You expect to find information about the photo on Commons gallery? Then you will find most of the galleries are abandoned or out of date like the most recent image being like photos i

Re: [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to Commons

2015-08-27 Thread James Heald
In terms of navigation from article-items to Commons categories, the policy is very straightforward: set and use the P373 property. This property also makes the inverse very straightforward, to go from a Commons category to a Wikidata item: use the script https://commons.wikimedia.org/wik

Re: [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to Commons

2015-08-27 Thread Romaine Wiki
No we have not a clear policy on only linking sitelinks to categories if the item itself is about a category. So not let's not break that. You suggest to break down almost the complete navigational structure Commons has in relationship with Wikipedia, and makes it possible to find articles that ar