On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Aude wrote:
> Can the templates from enwiki (at least those in use) be imported to the
> test wiki? It's important to look at the flagged revs, together with
> templates, to make sure the css stylings don't conflict between what's used
> in the infoboxes and what
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
> Apparently due to some miscommunications, a lot of people didn’t realize
> that the FlaggedRevs labs test wiki has been active and waiting for
> people to poke at it for a month, since just before Wikimania!
>
> We need interested people to b
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Gregory Maxwell
>> wrote:> There is a page on the wiki collecting comments, please add
>> yours:
>>
>> Done.
>>
>> One thing that makes testing t
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Gregory Maxwell
> wrote:> There is a page on the wiki collecting comments, please add
> yours:
>
> Done.
>
> One thing that makes testing this thing quite difficult is that the
> experience for admins and n
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> When will the test wiki be activated? This requires something like
> pasting 25 lines of configuration, an extension install, and kicking a
> maintenance script.
Can you give a bit of background here? You seem to be saying that
there is a
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Gregory Maxwell
wrote:> There is a page on the wiki collecting comments, please add
yours:
Done.
One thing that makes testing this thing quite difficult is that the
experience for admins and non-admins is very different. In particular
if you're an admin, every c
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> So, please let's not inflict this on en without making a few decent
> improvements to the user experience.
Absolutely. I think a lot of clarity can be added just by changing the
interface text... Sighted? Wtf is that.
There is a page on the
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Brion Vibber wrote:
> I’ve added a couple quick notes to this affect on the main page:
> http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
Ah, I didn't know about this. Having a quick look now. Comments:
- It looks like the UI could do with a bit of work - it
Apparently due to some miscommunications, a lot of people didn’t realize
that the FlaggedRevs labs test wiki has been active and waiting for
people to poke at it for a month, since just before Wikimania!
We need interested people to be get up as local administrators to try
out the the per-page
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:20 AM, David Gerard wrote:
If you want to know how Flagged Revisions feels from an unprivileged
position, go to Wikinews and fix typos. I just did this on
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Geelong_win_2009_Australian_Football_League_Grand_Final
- check the history. I'm not an
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articles.) That was disappointing.
However, an interview with Bryan Crump on Radio New Zealand was just posted --
and its only up this week -- that I think was rather excellent. But it lasts 40
minutes, so perhaps that's why :).
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/p
David Gerard wrote:
> That's probably horribly accurate, considering the arbcom tends -
> fairly reasonably - to regard the workshops as somewhere annoying
> people go to be ignored ...
I know. AGF, srsly.
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
[snip]
> plan, and Brion is hoping to invest some of his remaining time with it
> in helping to get the extension ready for en.wp. It's not trivial: The
> scalability concerns at that size are a step more serious than with
> de.wp,
Of course. B
2009/9/28 Charles Matthews :
> OK, here's an old-style formulation: X is to current policy and
> policy-review discussions as RfAr is to the Workshop. What would X be?
That's probably horribly accurate, considering the arbcom tends -
fairly reasonably - to regard the workshops as somewhere annoy
There will be a slight delay ...
- d.
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Hi Greg,
a quick note on Sue's behalf
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>From the article:
"He is also known for his turbulent and controversial personal
life.[6] In 1969, his pregnant wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered by the
Manson Family, and in 1977, he was arrested in Los Angeles and pleaded
guilty to "unlawful sexual i
>From the article:
"He is also known for his turbulent and controversial personal
life.[6] In 1969, his pregnant wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered by the
Manson Family, and in 1977, he was arrested in Los Angeles and pleaded
guilty to "unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor", a 13-year-old
girl; h
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Nathan wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
>> George Herbert wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Nathan wrote:
>>>
There is a mailing list for block reviews, this isn't it. We also
don't usually get into discussing spe
Nathan wrote:
> Your arguments focus on the definition and description of the
> Holocaust as an event, not Holocaust denial as a phenomena. The
> counter argument, which you've chosen to ignore, is that Holocaust
> denial as a phenomena is nearly absolutely limited to the "Jewish"
> portion that y
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM, stevertigo wrote:
> Nathan wrote to Ray:
>> This is an amazing thing you've written. I've read your posts for
>> perhaps two years, but I will read all future comments in an entirely
>> new light.
>
> Well, I think what Ray is doing is trying to conceptualize a ki
Ray Saintonge wrote:
> stevertigo wrote:
>
>> More thing on my to-do list: Get Arbcom to actually deal with
>> adjudicating policy and sections therein.
>>
>>
>>
>
> That can't work without opening up the broader question of how policies
> are formulated and later amended. Any kind of
Nathan wrote to Ray:
> This is an amazing thing you've written. I've read your posts for
> perhaps two years, but I will read all future comments in an entirely
> new light.
Well, I think what Ray is doing is trying to conceptualize a kind of
systemic bias in a certain historical area and how it
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Durova wrote:
> Congratulations! And thanks for your dedication to the project. You
> realize when he turns thirteen he's going to die of embarrassment over
> this...?
>
That's the idea. We're stocking up on embarrassing things we can show
to his first girlfri
Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Original research perhaps; disruption perhaps, but it is dishonest to
> call it "intellectual support of holocaust denialists."
I already took George to the woodshed for that remark, Raymond. I'm
sure he doesn't like being reminded of that experience.
> Expanding a term t
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> George Herbert wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Nathan wrote:
>>
>>> There is a mailing list for block reviews, this isn't it. We also
>>> don't usually get into discussing specific content issues here unless
>>> there is a point o
Ray Saintonge wrote:
> The distinction between using "reliable sources" and "using source
> reliably" is not likely to be productive.
If a fundamental editorial foundation is flawed because of
subjectivity is in the mix, that means we need to reformulate the
mixture. The Titanic came apart not ju
stevertigo wrote:
> More thing on my to-do list: Get Arbcom to actually deal with
> adjudicating policy and sections therein.
>
>
That can't work without opening up the broader question of how policies
are formulated and later amended. Any kind of policy review process
needs to operate separ
2009/9/28 Durova :
> Congratulations! And thanks for your dedication to the project. You
> realize when he turns thirteen he's going to die of embarrassment over
> this...?
Only if he hasn't made admin yet.
- d.
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On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> IRC office hours for the strategy project are upon us again Our
> next office hours will be: 20:00-21:00 UTC, Tuesday 29 September.
> Local timezones can be checked at
> http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=9&day=2
Congratulations! And thanks for your dedication to the project. You
realize when he turns thirteen he's going to die of embarrassment over
this...?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Sage Ross
> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Steve Bennett
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM
stevertigo wrote:
> Charles Matthews wrote:
>
>> I believe you are misreading what is said here. It is not being stated
>> that Arbcom has no time to do the job. Rather, it is being stated that
>> if it wants to do the job, it doesn't also have the time to deal with
>> all the heckling and rewr
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George Herbert wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Nathan wrote:
>
>> There is a mailing list for block reviews, this isn't it. We also
>> don't usually get into discussing specific content issues here unless
>> there is a point of wider significance to the encyclopedia.
>>
>> You believe
stevertigo wrote:
> Risker wrote:
>
>> Using a _reliable source_ means that we depend on the source to be reliable;
>> the qualitative analysis is on whether or not the source can be reliable.
>> Using a _source reliably_ means that it doesn't matter the quality of the
>> source, as long as we
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