Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-07 Thread Kim Bruning
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 01:26:06PM +0100, David Gerard wrote: > My blog post, in which I emphasise that this is fundamentally an > attack on CC by-sa and the freedom of free content: Your blog post somehow made its way to slashdot. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/07/1853238/internet-brands-s

[Wikimedia-l] Call for volunteers: 2012-2013 Audit Committee

2012-09-07 Thread Stuart West
As many of you know, the Wikimedia Foundation has an Audit Committee which represents the Board in oversight of financial and accounting issues, including planning, reporting, audits, and internal controls (see http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Audit_committee for details). The Committee ser

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 September 2012 21:11, emijrp wrote: > When we use 1911 Britannica texts, we only attribute to the encyclopedia, > not its authors, so we can put "This text comes from Wikitravel". The 1911 EB is public domain; completely different situation. - d.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 September 2012 20:47, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 7 September 2012 20:40, Daniel Zahn wrote: >> Well, it's "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike", so will have to >> attribute Wikitravel and the original author(s) on every single page. >> http://wikitravel.org/shared/Copyleft > Why attrib

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] August Fellowship News

2012-09-07 Thread Siko Bouterse
Hi all, The August edition of the Fellowship News is now available on meta-wiki: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fellowship_News Project highlights in this issue include: Dispute Resolution Project — Steven Zhang monitored a trial implementing changes to the dispute resolution noticeboard on Engl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 7 September 2012 21:25, Michael Peel wrote: > We encourage attribution of Wikipedia articles as: > > "This article uses material from the Wikipedia article "[[Metasyntactic > variable]]", which is released under the > [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ Creative Commons > Attribu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 7 September 2012 21:11, emijrp wrote: > When we use 1911 Britannica texts, we only attribute to the encyclopedia, > not its authors, so we can put "This text comes from Wikitravel". We use 1911 Britannica texts because they are in the public domain. We don't have to attribute them at all, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Stefan Fussan
We have a complete set of articles and pictures including the complete history (August 2012 just a day before they disabled the api). We are about to migrate all articles on Wikivoyage. A test of Wikitravel:en articles and wikitravel:shared pictures on Wikivoyage is running. So we have a Wikivo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Peel
On 7 Sep 2012, at 21:14, Nathan wrote: > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM, emijrp wrote: >> When we use 1911 Britannica texts, we only attribute to the encyclopedia, >> not its authors, so we can put "This text comes from Wikitravel". >> >> Anyway, if we are going to use Wikitravel texts, writin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread emijrp
How to re-use Wikitravel guides http://www.webcitation.org/6AVYKMbhE Example of credits: http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Singapore&action=credits 2012/9/7 Nathan > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM, emijrp wrote: > > When we use 1911 Britannica texts, we only attribute to the encycl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Deryck Chan
Just write "Imported from Wikitravel" and list the names of all page authors by scrubbing the Wikitravel page. Attribution given, problem solved! (okay, not the import practicality bit) On 7 September 2012 21:14, Nathan wrote: > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM, emijrp wrote: > > When we use 1911

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM, emijrp wrote: > When we use 1911 Britannica texts, we only attribute to the encyclopedia, > not its authors, so we can put "This text comes from Wikitravel". > > Anyway, if we are going to use Wikitravel texts, writing a script to scrape > just the usernames from hi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread emijrp
When we use 1911 Britannica texts, we only attribute to the encyclopedia, not its authors, so we can put "This text comes from Wikitravel". Anyway, if we are going to use Wikitravel texts, writing a script to scrape just the usernames from histories is trivial http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 7 September 2012 20:59, Daniel Zahn wrote: > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: > >> Why attribute Wikitravel? The license only requires the author to be >> attributed, not the first publisher. Ideally, content will be copied >> across with the page history intact > > Rea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Daniel Zahn
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Why attribute Wikitravel? The license only requires the author to be > attributed, not the first publisher. Ideally, content will be copied > across with the page history intact Really? it says.. "(2) credit the author, licensor and/or othe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Daniel Zahn
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > haven't been following too closely - are there any dumps available? It > seems unlikely it will be possible to get any now (I doubt IB can be > compelled to provide one). They just disabled their Special:Export page, but too late a bit sinc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread emijrp
2012/9/7 Thomas Dalton > On 7 September 2012 20:40, Daniel Zahn wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton > > wrote: > > > >> and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on > free > >> license... > > > > Well, it's "Creative Commons Attribution-Sha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 7 September 2012 20:40, Daniel Zahn wrote: > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton > wrote: > >> and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on free >> license... > > Well, it's "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike", so will have to > attribute Wikit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Daniel Zahn
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton wrote: > and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on free > license... Well, it's "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike", so will have to attribute Wikitravel and the original author(s) on every single page. htt

[Wikimedia-l] Next one ? Re: Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 06/09/2012 15:21, Alice Wiegand a écrit : Hi all, on behalf of the Board of Trustees I'm glad to announce the following statement about the travel guide RfC http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide : Through the RfC, it is clear our community has reached consensus in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-07 Thread Nathan
Reading through the IB filing, they aren't even bothering to structure a good case. It's all blather and no substance (claiming, for instance, that the defendants have been unjustly enriched by establishing a website with a name confusingly similar to WikiTravel; when of course no such site exists,

[Wikimedia-l] Monthly Report WMDE August 2012

2012-09-07 Thread Katja Ullrich
Hello everybody, Wikimedia Deutschland's monthly report for August is online in English now. For those of you who want to learn more about - our presence at the Wikipedia conference WikiCon - who will help us with our next Fundraiser <

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-07 Thread Richard Symonds
Good luck to everyone concerned from the UK Chapter! James in particular has been doing some very interesting things in the UK recently, which we're very grateful for. As to the trademark infringement, I think it stems not from "Wikivoyage", but instead from James' alleged use of the phrase "Wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-07 Thread Theo10011
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:56 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 6 September 2012 14:48, David Gerard wrote: > > On 6 September 2012 01:46, Kelly Kay wrote: > > >> Today the Wikimedia Foundation filed a > >> suit< > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:WMF_complaint_for_declaratory_judgement_Septe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-07 Thread David Gerard
On 6 September 2012 14:48, David Gerard wrote: > On 6 September 2012 01:46, Kelly Kay wrote: >> Today the Wikimedia Foundation filed a >> suit > I urge everyone to read through the PDF. To be c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Florence Devouard
To be fair, it's nice to see that they recognize their community has a value :) Flo On 9/6/12 4:40 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton wrote: \o/ Nice! and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on free license... On 6 September 2012 10:21, Alice Wiegand wrote: Hi all