Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Oh yes, this would really be great. Just think about the money the Foundation gives out meanwhile for translation, plus the many many volunteers' work invested into translation. A free and open translation software is long overdue indeed. Great idea Erik. Greetings Ting Am 4/24/2013 8:29 AM,

[Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Wikimedia's mission is to make the sum of all knowledge available to every person on the planet. We do this by enabling communities in all languages to organize and collect knowledge in our projects, removing any barriers that we're able to remove. In spite of this, there are and will always be la

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:47 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > >> It's good to see so much interest in this thread. >> >> The purpose of transparency is not feedback. It is valuable in its own >> right. It reduces surprise and supports planning disc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > It's good to see so much interest in this thread. > > The purpose of transparency is not feedback. It is valuable in its own > right. > It reduces surprise and supports planning discussions elsewhere in the > movement. > I do agree with thi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

phoebe ayers, 23/04/2013 22:00: [...] I think it is clear that the community can provide valuable feedback, although any feedback just in itself should not be the purpose in its own, right? I guess it might be helpful to figure out what the point of feedback is, exactly. [...] Dariusz is r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

It's good to see so much interest in this thread. The purpose of transparency is not feedback. It is valuable in its own right. It reduces surprise and supports planning discussions elsewhere in the movement. And any information shared in a lookahead document would be at a high level; not budget

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

Exactly. The community is involved in the strategic planning process, and has the opportunity to review the spending and changes over time, both through the visible elements of annual planning and the annual reports. In addition, there is (obviously) pretty robust discussion here when questions ari

[Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours about upcoming account creation and login redesigns

Hey all, As you might know, the Editor Engagement Experiments team spent several weeks in 2012-13 testing changes to the account creation page, aiming to make it easier for new editors to join our projects.[1] Soon you'll see wider announcements on-wiki and on the blog about the "soft launch" of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > from my point of view, it would be really great if there was more feedback > from the community on the FDC proposals, but I also understand that reading > detailed proposals is not necessarily something that many active members > have t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

from my point of view, it would be really great if there was more feedback from the community on the FDC proposals, but I also understand that reading detailed proposals is not necessarily something that many active members have the necessary time for. I think it is clear that the community can pr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: > Steven, > I am actually disappointed to see you bring such an example to back up a > thesis that — that's the impression I'm getting — the community cannot > provide valuable feedback on budget-related matters. > > The experience that I have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

Steven, I am actually disappointed to see you bring such an example to back up a thesis that — that's the impression I'm getting — the community cannot provide valuable feedback on budget-related matters. The experience that I have is quite opposite: as far as I am aware, community members ha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

Steven Walling, 23/04/2013 17:58: I fully agree. My team, Editor Engagement Experiments, was one of the few submitted to the FDC for approval.[1] We got almost no substantive questions or comments on the Talk page or mailing lists from community members about our budget. [...] That the FDC pro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Consultation opened for Bylaws change

Lodewijk, 23/04/2013 18:11: Thank you for taking this step! I am glad that the board now involves the community in its bylaw changing process. +1 What appears obvious in bylaws changes, never is. Vacancies, in particular, are among the trickiest matters to deal with in bylaws; I left a commen

[Wikimedia-l] "The Human Hacking Field Guide" - a story about open source and open content hackerdom - What's in it for you and how you can help.

"The Human Hacking Field Guide" - a story about open source and open content hackerdom - What's in it for you and how you can help. Hi all, you will hopefully enjoy reading this story: http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Consultation opened for Bylaws change

Thank you for taking this step! I am glad that the board now involves the community in its bylaw changing process. Lodewijk 2013/4/22 Risker > Just in case others had problems with the links (thanks gmail...) > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_bylaws/May_2013_-_Article_I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013, Nathan wrote: > The necessity of public comment on a detailed budget is overblown. I > don't think the Foundation should dedicate a lot of time or resources > into getting input into the budget development process from members of > the community. This is one area where

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

The necessity of public comment on a detailed budget is overblown. I don't think the Foundation should dedicate a lot of time or resources into getting input into the budget development process from members of the community. This is one area where expertise and the ability to dedicate a substantial

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

Hello again, A few comments inline: Leslie Carr writes: > As someone who works for the foundation and has had to deal with > budget issues in engineering (though this is my personal opinion) > the budget process is already incredibly long, drawn out, and stressful. This is a problem that we shou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: > Hi Sam, > first of all, let me thank you for your involvement in this—it's > appreciated! Other comments follow in-line. > > >> By the time we see a final-draft plan in April/May, there is already >> little leeway for significant change

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: [WCA][Governance] Training for chapter and thematic org. board members

As you say, the WMF and a few chapters do have such an induction process already. Perhaps we can coordinate those existing processes with whatever is developed for the rest of the affiliates. For instance, there might be a few of these workshops each year; at least one of them at Wikimania. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Creating a Wikimania Committee

Hi, It's already there: - Provide advice (on request) with regards to other large-scale Wikimedia events to the community and movement bodies. *~Orsolya* 2013/4/23 Butch Bustria > Hi, > > I suggest "Wikimedia Conference Coordination Committee (WC3)" so that > conferences similar to "*

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic plans of the Wikimedia entities: could you link your strategy, please?

On 22 April 2013 23:22, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy > > Would you like to make a link to your strategy document? I added a link to WMUK's five year strategy document, however I am wondering if this might work even better if the links appeared in a column of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic plans of the Wikimedia entities: could you link your strategy, please?

Excellent idea Ziko! I have added the WMAU strategic plan ( http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Strategic_plan ) to the list on Meta also. Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 23 April 2013 09:21, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: > Great idea. [2] > > I think WMF independent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

Hi Sam, first of all, let me thank you for your involvement in this—it's appreciated! Other comments follow in-line. By the time we see a final-draft plan in April/May, there is already little leeway for significant change. This probably means that there is something wrong with the process a