Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Revitalising the Wikimedia India chapter

2014-04-28 Thread Gautam John
On 29 April 2014 01:00, Asaf Bartov wrote: > 1. Chapters are free to set their own course and come up with their own > strategy, goals, and annual plans. They are thus independent. > 2. Chapters that want to avail themselves of _movement funds_ -- a > relatively plentiful and relatively accessib

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Revitalising the Wikimedia India chapter

2014-04-28 Thread Dhaval S. Vyas
Thank you Asaf for correcting my facts. When I said WMIN was denied funding, It was obvious that I was referring to the large chunk of budget that was denied and didn't mean that "no funding was approved". I am glad to see your reply to Gerald's question that I attempted to answer, which you found

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Revitalising the Wikimedia India chapter

2014-04-28 Thread Vikram Vincent
Hello Asaf, On 29 April 2014 01:00, Asaf Bartov wrote: > I asserted that the abiding disagreement between WMF and WMIN is much more > around the _how_ than the _what_, and that that disagreement can be Can you please elaborate a bit more on the disagreement of 'how' Thanks Vikram

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Revitalising the Wikimedia India chapter

2014-04-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Gautam John wrote: > In general, are Chapters expected to focus on what the goals of the > WMF and FDC are? Or are they free to chart their own course about > things that they believe are important to the geographies they serve? > And if they don't toe the WMF/FD

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Revitalising the Wikimedia India chapter

2014-04-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:29 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas wrote: > Hi Gerard, > > I know a chapter in Europe, where probably you come from, which doesn't > depend on WMF's grant or funds as it has raised a huge amount on its own. > That chapter, WMUK, is still considered WMF chapter if I am not mistaking.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Urdu Wikipedia crosses the 50, 000 mark (reply to Asaf Bartov)

2014-04-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thanks, Muzammil, but I feel we're still in the dark. "A coordinated approach" does suggest that whatever was done was done in coordination within the community -- and that's very important -- but it doesn't tell us what form that approach took: was it a coordinated plan to activate a bot to creat

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Vikaspedia: reaching the unreached in India

2014-04-28 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
Hi, On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Bishakha Datta wrote: > Anyone seen or know of this? > > Found it by accident from this article: > http://discover.isif.asia/2014/02/will-india-succeed-where-wikipedia-has-failed/ > > Wondering what it means for these language wikipedias - is there an > oppor

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Vikaspedia: reaching the unreached in India

2014-04-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Seriously, do you want to make a difference.. Is there room to make an effort? Do we dare to? We are very set in our ways. The WMF has an ingrained way of doing more of the same thing but better. There are opportunities that are not realised because "the moment is not there yet". We could do

[Wikimediaindia-l] Vikaspedia: reaching the unreached in India

2014-04-28 Thread Bishakha Datta
Anyone seen or know of this? Found it by accident from this article: http://discover.isif.asia/2014/02/will-india-succeed-where-wikipedia-has-failed/ Wondering what it means for these language wikipedias - is there an opportunity for collaboration? Best Bishakha _

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Revitalising the Wikimedia India chapter

2014-04-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am from the Netherlands and, its chapter is very much depended on WMF money. Fundraising is NOT its strong point.. If you are interested in a chapter that has its own revenue stream look at Poland. I do know that the Indian chapter did not receive the funding it looked for and, personally I

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Revitalising the Wikimedia India chapter

2014-04-28 Thread Dhaval S. Vyas
Hi Gerard, I know a chapter in Europe, where probably you come from, which doesn't depend on WMF's grant or funds as it has raised a huge amount on its own. That chapter, WMUK, is still considered WMF chapter if I am not mistaking. Also, the need for WMIN to raise its own funds has arisen because

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Revitalising the Wikimedia India chapter

2014-04-28 Thread Gautam John
On 28 April 2014 12:45, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Independence is just that. When you can get money when you focus on certain > goals, you will when you do. When you want to go a different route, you may > but that is your route and funding for it is your responsibility as well. That's fair enoug

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Revitalising the Wikimedia India chapter

2014-04-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Independence is just that. When you can get money when you focus on certain goals, you will when you do. When you want to go a different route, you may but that is your route and funding for it is your responsibility as well. Given what a chapter is, I would expect that it has ample scope to