fyi
watch those towers!
And don't forget to take the keys from any equipment left on site.
marlon
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Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
> This link details recent vandalism against commercial antenna towers in
http://www.elfpressoffice.org/
Someone's gotta be pretty shallow in the gene pool (or a complete crack
head) to destroy a big tower with your person AT THE BASE OF THE TOWER!
Where else (on the ground) would be a worse place to be with a tower
coming down? I'd want to be out of the fall radius.
And the site owners didn't install alarms and video surveillance equipment
because...
Tom S.
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>> http://www.elfpressoffice.org/
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>> Someone's gotta be pretty shallow in the gene pool (or a complete crack
>> head) to destroy a big tower with your person AT THE
es wrote:
> > And the site owners didn't install alarms and video surveillance
> equipment
> > because...
> >
> > Tom S.
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> Do you do those things?
>
> On 9/4/09, Tom Sharples wrote:
>> And the site owners didn't instal
/09, Tom Sharples wrote:
> >> > And the site owners didn't install alarms and video surveillance
> >> equipment
> >> > because...
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ms and video surveillance
equipment
because...
Tom S.
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gt; From: "Travis Johnson"
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:32 AM
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> WISPA Wa
I don't know, you should never talk about a willingness to shoot
someone. A good lawyer will find your E-mail on the Internet and use
that against you.
If you do shoot someone be sure you do it right so they die...
Even the most hardened criminal does not look threatening to the Jury
when he
Don't forget "I used force necessary to maintain the situation".
On 9/5/09, Gary Garrett wrote:
> I don't know, you should never talk about a willingness to shoot
> someone. A good lawyer will find your E-mail on the Internet and use
> that against you.
> If you do shoot someone be sure you do it
pa.org] On
Behalf Of Gary Garrett
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
I don't know, you should never talk about a willingness to shoot
someone. A good lawyer will find your E-mail on t
Your Lawyer will say that when the time comes.
If you say anything at all at the scene, the only "installer" you will
ever have to deal with will be some creep named "Bubba".
> Don't forget "I used force necessary to maintain the situation".
>
>>
>> When the police arrive, say ONLY 3 things,
: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
So I'm curious what one would do if you saw someone there to "take down" your
tower? Are you really going to drive there and confront someone that doesn't
give a crap about doing illegal activities?
Travis
Microserv
Jayson Bak
>
>
>
>
> From: Travis Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:31 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
>
>
> So I'm curious what one would do if you saw someone there to "take down" your
> towe
people are afraid of getting caught for doing anything bad. What are they going to do, shoot you?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerT
Go for it! Make holes in 'em! You'll make the sheriff, the judge, the
jury, the media (and especially) the warden very, very happy people.
Blair Davis wrote:
I'll be en route, and if I catch them trying to bring my tower down, I
will make holes in them.
.45 caliber holes, 12 gauge hole
We keep big mean dogs on our tower properties. Last time someone
tried to break in, all I found was a blood trail.
mc
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Jack Unger wrote:
> Go for it! Make holes in 'em! You'll make the sheriff, the judge, the jury,
> the media (and especially) the warden very,
In Michigan, since Oct06, it is quite legal to shoot someone committing
or attempting to commit a felony on my property, (owned or leased).
Jack Unger wrote:
Go for it! Make holes in 'em! You'll make the sheriff, the judge, the
jury, the media (and especially) the warden very, very happy p
Then the defense lawyer states you can't prove that the victim (in this
case) was committing any felonies.
Also, what kind of felony can one do on another persons property?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated th
Ok. This is getting "political" fast.
I am sure there is something else more constructive to talk about gang.
-B-
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From: Blair Davis
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:53:25
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw:
I didn't realize that. Thank you for the update. I'll contact you
off-list with any further questions that I have.
Blair Davis wrote:
In Michigan, since Oct06, it is quite legal to shoot someone committing
or attempting to commit a felony on my property, (owned or leased).
Jack Unger w
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Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
> Then the defense lawyer states you can't prove that the victim (in this
> case) was committing any felonies.
>
> Also, what kind of felony c
Hunting cam complete with .308 with remote trigger :)
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
> From: "Tom Sharples"
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 3:42 PM
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA]
This is also the case in Colorado. I remember a couple years ago a guy came
to the door of a couple's home, they opened the door and the guy showed them
a knife. The wife beat the crap out of the guy with a baseball bat. He was
DOA when the cops got there. She/they weren't charged at all.
Jays
There's a difference between killing someone who shows you a weapon and
threatens your life versus someone who commits a felony on some remote
property. Hardly anyone (or any state) would deny you the ability to
use lethal force to defend your life. That's a lot different from
hunting down and
So if a drug dealer is doing a "deal" on your property (100 pounds of
cocaine), you can shoot them? I highly doubt that.
Travis
Microserv
Blair Davis wrote:
In Michigan, since Oct06, it is quite legal to shoot someone committing
or attempting to commit a felony on my property, (owned or l
That's called self defense and has nothing to do with showing up while
a felony is being committed and being able to "open fire".
Travis
Microserv
Jayson Baker wrote:
This is also the case in Colorado. I remember a couple years ago a guy came
to the door of a couple's home, they opened th
What if you live in Texas?
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
> That's called self defense and has nothing to do with showing up while a
> felony is being committed and being able to "open fire".
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Jayson Baker wrote:
>
> This is also the case in Colo
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Brad
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 4:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
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Jack Unger wrote:
There's a difference between killing someone who shows you a weapon and
threatens your life versus someone who commits a felony on some remote
property. Hardly anyone (or any state) would deny you the ability to
use lethal force to defend your life. That's a lot di
I was in a hurry and used the term felony loosely. Sorry about that.
I may defend my property against imminent destruction, i.e. someone
trying to burn it down, knock it down... ect.
If I shot a kid with a spray paint can, I'd have a problem in court.
But if I shot a guy using a bulldozer t
009 1:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
The fixed cameras were about $30/ea. The composite to IP box was about $50.
The alarm system was about $200 when we put it in 5 years ago.
Yeah, the PTZ was about $2000 for a good one, great zoom, enclosure w
This thread is closed. Enough said.
Rick Harnish
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
I was in a hurry and
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