Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> There are two hyphen.cfg files in TL2010, one for babel and one for luatex. Indeed, and the second one has been designed so as *not* to load hyphenation patterns when generating formats, because it is possible in LuaTeX to load patterns on the fly, unlike in any other TeX engine. This means th

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> I don't think this started at TL 2010, Dominik; I have recollections > of seeing Babel mentioned early in the log file in earlier releases, That has always been the case. What it really means is that hyphenation patterns have been loaded in the format, not that the Babel package is being used

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Dyballa
Am 23.11.2010 um 04:32 schrieb Vladimir Lomov: P.S. Something wrong with your TL setup because here I could compile the file without such messages. May be you switch off support for some languages? Yes, that's true! I did not think of this and assumed a failure in polyglossia... -- Greet

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
When xelatex is building it's format file, it gets to loading latex.ltx. That contains \InputIfFileExists{hyphen.cfg} >{\typeout{===^^J% > Local configuration file hyphen.cfg used^^J% > =

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Dominik Wujastyk wrote: I've been puzzled for a while because my TL2010 distribution appears to load Babel by default very early in the format file. E.g.,: $ xelatex This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9997.4 (TeX Live 2010) restricted \write18 enabled. **\relax enter

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
I've been puzzled for a while because my TL2010 distribution appears to load Babel by default very early in the format file. E.g.,: $ xelatex > This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9997.4 (TeX Live 2010) > restricted \write18 enabled. > **\relax > entering extended mode > LaTeX2e <2009/09/24>

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-22 Thread Vladimir Lomov
Hi. 2010/11/23 Vladimir Lomov : > Hi. [...] > Nevertheless the actual problem is not how to use babel shorthands but > in Russian typeset rules. The em dash used in Russian typography style > differs from English/Western case so babel defines special commands to > support Russian em dash style. P

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-22 Thread Vladimir Lomov
Hi. 2010/11/23 Peter Dyballa : > > Am 22.11.2010 um 15:40 schrieb Alexander: > >> After upgrade to TL 2010 these commands not work. > > I see in my console log: > > >  (/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/xelatex/polyglossia/gloss-russian.ldf > >        Package polyglossia Warning: No hyphenati

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-22 Thread Peter Dyballa
Am 22.11.2010 um 15:40 schrieb Alexander: After upgrade to TL 2010 these commands not work. I see in my console log: (/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/xelatex/polyglossia/gloss- russian.ldf Package polyglossia Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for `Russian' (

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-22 Thread Alexander
After upgrade to TL 2010 these commands not work. gloss-russian.ldf now contain code from babel. minimal example: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{polyglossia} \setmainfont{PT Sans} \setsansfont{PT Sans Caption} \setmonofont{DejaVu Sans Mono} \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase, Mapping

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-06-02 Thread Vladimir Lomov
** Alexander [2010-06-02 21:15:17 +0900]: > What's the reason in two versions polyglossiya in github? There are two repositories: the "master" (github.com/fc7/polyglossia) and its "clone" (github.com/vp1981/polyglossia). The last one I maintain and I added necessary commands from babel. > And whe

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-06-02 Thread Alexander
What's the reason in two versions polyglossiya in github? And when the new commands from babel would be ready for use? -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-31 Thread Vladimir Lomov
** Vadim Radionov [2010-05-31 14:35:21 +0400]: > Vladimir, > You know, that Russian babel short-hands do slightly more than just insert a > glyph from the font: they adjust the spacing around the em-dash (and the > length of the dash, too), and allow hyphenation of adjacent words (in case > of hy

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-31 Thread Alexander
2010/5/31, Vadim Radionov : > Vladimir, > > You know, that Russian babel short-hands do slightly more than just insert a > glyph from the font: they adjust the spacing around the em-dash (and the > length of the dash, too), and allow hyphenation of adjacent words (in case > of hyphens). So even in

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-31 Thread François Charette
On 31/05/2010 12:35, Vadim Radionov wrote: Vladimir, You know, that Russian babel short-hands do slightly more than just insert a glyph from the font: they adjust the spacing around the em-dash (and the length of the dash, too), and allow hyphenation of adjacent words (in case of hyphens). So e

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-31 Thread Vadim Radionov
Vladimir, You know, that Russian babel short-hands do slightly more than just insert a glyph from the font: they adjust the spacing around the em-dash (and the length of the dash, too), and allow hyphenation of adjacent words (in case of hyphens). So even in the case of Unicode input we need some

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-31 Thread Vladimir Lomov
** Alexander [2010-05-29 10:57:05 +0900]: > Hello. What the best way to use commands "--- and others (works in > babel with Russian language) in XeTeX with polyglossia? xe(la)tex is Unicode-aware tex engine so you don't need any special package or command to insert dashes. So just insert them into

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-29 Thread Fr. Michael Gilmary
Alexey Kryukov wrote: The question was about babel-styled shorthands rather than standard TeX ligatures. I believe polyglossia doesn't yet support shorthands for Russian. OOPS! Sorry for the mix up. -- United in adoration of Jesus, fr. michael gilmary, mma Most Holy Trinity Monaste

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-29 Thread Alexey Kryukov
On Sat, 29 May 2010 10:25:24 -0400 Fr. Michael Gilmary wrote: > The last command ( \defaultfontfeatures ) is what enables fontspec to > use --- and " as the standard (La)TeX does. However, with Xe(La)TeX, > you can enter — and “ (or ” ) directly since that's part of the > genius of XeTeX. The qu

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-29 Thread Fr. Michael Gilmary
Alexander wrote: Hello. What the best way to use commands "--- and others (works in babel with Russian language) in XeTeX with polyglossia? Hi Alexander: If you use a preamble with something like this: %\usepackage[no-math]{fontspec} %% un-comment if you don't use math stuff \usepacka

[XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-29 Thread Alexander
Hello. What the best way to use commands "--- and others (works in babel with Russian language) in XeTeX with polyglossia? -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex