Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS imported simultanously on 2 systems...

2006-09-14 Thread Darren J Moffat
Frank Cusack wrote: On September 13, 2006 7:07:40 PM -0700 Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dale Ghent wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: As I understand things, SunCluster 3.2 is expected to have support for HA-ZFS and until that version is released you will not be running in a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Recommendation ZFS on StorEdge 3320

2006-09-14 Thread Roch - PAE
With ZFS however the in-between cache is obsolete, as individual disk caches can be used directly. The statement needs to be qualified. Storage cache, if protected, works great to reduce critical op latency. ZFS when it writes to disk cache, will flush data out before return to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on a ZFS multiple use of a pool, RFE.

2006-09-14 Thread James Dickens
On 9/14/06, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Dickens wrote: On 9/13/06, Eric Schrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 02:29:55PM -0500, James Dickens wrote: this would not be the first time that Solaris overrided an administive command, because its just not

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs share=.foo-internal.bar.edu on multiple interfaces?

2006-09-14 Thread Luke Scharf
Luke Scharf wrote: The problem is that when I mount from a client, I can only mount if I specify the IP address 1st network interface. If I use the 2nd or 3rd interface (both also on the internal network), then I get the following error: kernel: nfs server 10.1.5.10:/xr7/group/ntnt: not

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Comments on a ZFS multiple use of a pool, RFE.

2006-09-14 Thread Daniel Rock
The OP was just showing a test case. On a real system your HA software would exchange a heartbeat and not do a double import. The problem with zfs is that after the original system fails and the second system imports the pool, the original system also tries to import on [re]boot, and the OP

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS imported simultanously on 2 systems...

2006-09-14 Thread Darren J Moffat
Anton B. Rang wrote: You need to rewrite/extend that to deal with the fact that ZFS doesn't use vfstab and instead express it in terms of ZFS import/export. The problem (as I see it) is that ZFS import is (by default) implicit at startup, while UFS mount is (by default) only performed when

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Comments on a ZFS multiple use of a pool, RFE.

2006-09-14 Thread Anton B. Rang
If you *never* want to import a pool automatically on reboot you just have to delete the /etc/zfs/zpool.cache file before the zfs module is being loaded. This could be integrated into SMF. Or you could always use import -R / create -R for your pool management. Of course, there's no way to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: multiple copies of user data

2006-09-14 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Ahrens wrote: Out of curiosity, what would you guys think about addressing this same problem by having the option to store some filesystems unreplicated on an mirrored (or raid-z) pool? This would have the same issues of unexpected space

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Corrupted LUN in RAIDZ group -- How to repair?

2006-09-14 Thread David Smith
I have run zpool scrub again, and I now see checksum errors again. Wouldn't the checksum errors gotten fixed with the first zpool scrub? Can anyone recommend actions I should do at this point? Thanks, David This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: multiple copies of user data

2006-09-14 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil A. Wilson wrote: This is unfortunate. As a laptop user with only a single drive, I was looking forward to it since I've been bitten in the past by data loss caused by a bad area on the disk. I don't care about the space consumption because

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Comments on a ZFS multiple use of a pool,

2006-09-14 Thread Darren Dunham
If you *never* want to import a pool automatically on reboot you just have to delete the /etc/zfs/zpool.cache file before the zfs module is being loaded. This could be integrated into SMF. Or you could always use import -R / create -R for your pool management. Of course, there's no

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS imported simultanously on 2 systems...

2006-09-14 Thread Darren J Moffat
Darren Dunham wrote: Exactly. What method could such a framework use to ask ZFS to import a pool *now*, but not also automatically at next boot? (How does the upcoming SC do it?) I don't know how Sun Cluster does it and I don't know where the source is. As others have pointed out you could

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS imported simultanously on 2 systems...

2006-09-14 Thread Darren Dunham
As others have pointed out you could use the fully supported alternate root support for this. The zpool create -R and zpool import -R commands allow Yes. I tried that. It should work well. In addition, I'm happy to note that '-R /' appears to be valid, allowing all the filenames

[zfs-discuss] Remounting ZFS formatted disk after system reinstall

2006-09-14 Thread Aric Gregson
I was running solaris 10 6/06 with latest kernel patch on ultra 20 (x86) with two internal disks, the root with the OS (c1d0) as UFS and the userland data on c2d0s7 formatted as ZFS. An update made the system unusable and required reinstallation of the OS on c1d0 (solaris 6/06). I cannot

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on a ZFS multiple use of a pool, RFE.

2006-09-14 Thread Torrey McMahon
James Dickens wrote: eric was allready talking about printing the last time a disk was accessed when a disk was about to be imported, my idea would be run that check twice, once initially and if it looks like it could be still in use, like the pool wasn't exported and last write occurred in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Remounting ZFS formatted disk after system reinstall

2006-09-14 Thread Aric Gregson
I figured this out. Was way too simple. zpool import fitz thanks, On Thursday, September 14, 2006, at 12:16PM, Aric Gregson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was running solaris 10 6/06 with latest kernel patch on ultra 20 (x86) with two internal disks, the root with the OS (c1d0) as UFS and the

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to NOT mount a ZFS storage pool/ZFS file system?

2006-09-14 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello David, Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 11:41:27 PM, you wrote: DS I currently have a system which has two ZFS storage pools. One DS of the pools is coming from a faulty piece of hardware. I would DS like to bring up our server mounting the storage pool which is DS okay and NOT mounting the

[zfs-discuss] Access to ZFS checksums would be nice and very useful feature

2006-09-14 Thread Bady, Brant RBCM:EX
Title: Access to ZFS checksums would be nice and very useful feature I am working in the area of archiving (in the true send of the word - e.g. using the OAIS reference model) electronic data for long term preservation and access. ZFS now makes magnetic disk arrays a bit more suitable for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Access to ZFS checksums would be nice and very useful feature

2006-09-14 Thread Chad Lewis
On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Henk Langeveld wrote: Bady, Brant RBCM:EX wrote: Part of the archiving process is to generate checksums (I happen to use MD5), and store them with other metadata about the digital object in order to verify data integrity and demonstrate the authenticity of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Access to ZFS checksums would be nice and very useful feature

2006-09-14 Thread James C. McPherson
Bady, Brant RBCM:EX wrote: I am working in the area of archiving (in the true send of the word - e.g. using the OAIS reference model) electronic data for long term preservation and access. ZFS now makes magnetic disk arrays a bit more suitable for that. Part of the archiving process is to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Corrupted LUN in RAIDZ group -- How to repair?

2006-09-14 Thread Bill Moore
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 08:09:07AM -0700, David Smith wrote: I have run zpool scrub again, and I now see checksum errors again. Wouldn't the checksum errors gotten fixed with the first zpool scrub? Can anyone recommend actions I should do at this point? After running the first scrub, did

RE: [zfs-discuss] Access to ZFS checksums would be nice and very useful feature

2006-09-14 Thread Bady, Brant RBCM:EX
Actually to clarify - what I want to do is to be able to read the associated checksums ZFS creates for a file and then store them in an external system e.g. an oracle database most likely Its just a way of avoiding having to do MD5's on everything when ZFS is doing checksums as well. If ZFS does

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Corrupted LUN in RAIDZ group -- How to repair?

2006-09-14 Thread David W. Smith
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 13:55 -0700, Bill Moore wrote: On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 08:09:07AM -0700, David Smith wrote: I have run zpool scrub again, and I now see checksum errors again. Wouldn't the checksum errors gotten fixed with the first zpool scrub? Can anyone recommend actions I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Access to ZFS checksums would be nice and very useful feature

2006-09-14 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 10:32:59PM +0200, Henk Langeveld wrote: Bady, Brant RBCM:EX wrote: Part of the archiving process is to generate checksums (I happen to use MD5), and store them with other metadata about the digital object in order to verify data integrity and demonstrate the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Access to ZFS checksums would be nice and very useful feature

2006-09-14 Thread Mike Gerdts
On 9/14/06, Chad Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better still would be the forthcoming cryptographic extensions in some kind of digital-signature mode. When I first saw extended attributes I thought that would be a great place to store a digital signature of the file. I'm not saying that it is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Access to ZFS checksums would be nice and very useful feature

2006-09-14 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 06:26:46PM -0500, Mike Gerdts wrote: On 9/14/06, Chad Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better still would be the forthcoming cryptographic extensions in some kind of digital-signature mode. When I first saw extended attributes I thought that would be a great place to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Access to ZFS checksums would be nice and very useful feature

2006-09-14 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Bady, Brant RBCM:EX wrote: Actually to clarify - what I want to do is to be able to read the associated checksums ZFS creates for a file and then store them in an external system e.g. an oracle database most likely Rather than storing the checksum externally, you could simply let ZFS verify

[zfs-discuss] zfs panic installing a brandz zone

2006-09-14 Thread Alan Hargreaves
Folks, before I start delving too deeply into this crashdump, has anyone seen anything like it? The background is that I'm running a non-debug open build of b49 and was in the process of running the zoneadm -z redlx install After a bit, the machine panics, initially looking at the

[zfs-discuss] Re: zfs panic installing a brandz zone

2006-09-14 Thread Alan Hargreaves
I know, bad form replying to myself, but I am wondering if it might be related to 6438702 error handling in zfs_getpage() can trigger page not locked Which is marked fix in progress with a target of the current build. alan. Alan Hargreaves wrote: Folks, before I start delving too