Re: [ZODB-Dev] The write skew issue

2008-02-01 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Dieter Maurer schrieb: Christian Theune wrote at 2008-1-30 21:21 +0100: ... That would mean that the write skew phenomenon that you found would be valid behaviour, wouldn't it? No. Am I missing something? Yes. No matter how you order the two transactions in my example, the result wil

Re: [ZODB-Dev] The write skew issue

2008-01-31 Thread Dieter Maurer
Christian Theune wrote at 2008-1-30 21:21 +0100: > ... >That would mean that the write skew phenomenon that you found would be >valid behaviour, wouldn't it? No. > Am I missing something? Yes. No matter how you order the two transactions in my example, the result will be different from what the

Re: [ZODB-Dev] The write skew issue

2008-01-30 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Dieter Maurer schrieb: Christian Theune wrote at 2008-1-29 16:32 +0100: ... When I looked up the definitions in Wikipedia about isolation and serializability again I didn't find any hint about the conditions how to decide which ordering is preferred. From Wikipedia ("http://en.wikipedi

Re: [ZODB-Dev] The write skew issue

2008-01-30 Thread Dieter Maurer
Christian Theune wrote at 2008-1-29 16:32 +0100: > ... >When I looked up the definitions in Wikipedia about isolation and >serializability again I didn't find any hint about the conditions how to >decide which ordering is preferred. >From Wikipedia ("http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serializable_%28

[ZODB-Dev] The write skew issue

2008-01-29 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, here is an interesting oppinion on the write skew issue: I talked to one of the PostgreSQL developers on a conference last week and asked him about his oppinion on MVCC and the write skew issue we detected in ZODB (and in principle in all other MVCC-based DBs). He said that serialization