[Zope-dev] Re: Heads up: about to merge new-style ExtensionClass and ZODB 3.3 into Zope 2 head

2003-12-08 Thread Yuppie
Dieter Maurer wrote: I worked a bit with ZopeHead. Required CMF patches attached. Thanks! Based on your patches I made a checkin to CMF HEAD. Cheers, Yuppie ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Stefan H. Holek
Evan, absolute_url(1) was broken (by my definition of broken) basically since the introduction of VHM, which means the better part of 2 years. Naturally, there is code now that relies on this (broken) behavior. This does however not mean it should not be fixed! The ugly part is that the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 09:35, Stefan H. Holek wrote: [...] So by my definition, the URL (relative or not) should *always* include eventual _vh_xyz parts. If what one really needs is related to the physical layout of the ZODB, there is always getPhysicalPath(). +1 URLs are in fact just

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote: IMHO, this is broken behaviour. If you try to use an URL to locate an object, the only sane behaviour is to feed this URL to an URL api (probably in the REQUEST object) to get it mapped to a physical path. (Un)RestrictedTraverse can do this, right? Or does that

[Zope-dev] Newbie Question

2003-12-08 Thread Aaron Paxson
I hope I'm posting to the right mailing list. There were so many to decide from. I've just been introduced to Zope, and am curious on how it will fit into my company's plans. I'm currently learning Java, and was starting to learn the RedHat Web Application Framework. I've found Zope in an

Re: [Zope-dev] Newbie Question

2003-12-08 Thread Peter Sabaini
Aaron Paxson wrote: I hope I'm posting to the right mailing list. There were so many to decide from. This should've probably been directed to the main Zope list; zope-dev is for development *of* Zope. I've just been introduced to Zope, and am curious on how it will fit into my company's plans.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:35:38PM +0100, Stefan H. Holek wrote: Note that this is one of my main points: It will be of little use to document usage of BASEPATH1+absolute_url(1) when '/'+absolute_url(1) appears to work (until it is far too late). As a frequent (ab)user of

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope.org - SteveVisitingFredericksburgSprint

2003-12-08 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Steve Alexander and I will be hosting a sprint in Fredericksburg January 12-14, 2004: http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/SteveVisitingFredericksburgSprint A possible topic is Zope 2 to Zope 3 transition and working on Zope 2.9. Before independent discussions erupt here, see

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Monday 08 December 2003 11:35, Stefan H. Holek wrote: Note that this is one of my main points: It will be of little use to document usage of BASEPATH1+absolute_url(1) when '/'+absolute_url(1) appears to work (until it is far too late). We can fix this social problem by providing an easy

RE: [Zope-dev] Newbie Question

2003-12-08 Thread Aaron Paxson
Thanks for resonding, even though there was a better list! I've got some fantastic replies, and was overwhelmed with the answers! I'll definately give Zope a try. -Original Message- From: Peter Sabaini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:32 AM To: Aaron Paxson

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
Paul Winkler wrote: As a frequent (ab)user of '/'+absolute_url(1), which did indeed bite me when i deployed to an inside out apache setup, I thought I'd try this out... I think you meant BASEPATH1+'/'+absolute_url(1)? I would like to know: 1. Exactly what is an inside out apache setup. 2. What is

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 05:58:12PM +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: Paul Winkler wrote: As a frequent (ab)user of '/'+absolute_url(1), which did indeed bite me when i deployed to an inside out apache setup, I thought I'd try this out... I think you meant BASEPATH1+'/'+absolute_url(1)? I

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
Paul Winkler wrote: See the About tab on VHM. OK, good. Inside out is mentioned numerous times in this thread. Yeah, I know, but I was getting confused to what it actually ment. The result that I got by doing BASEPATH1+'/'+absolute_url(1) as described in my previous message. I thought that was

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Stefan H. Holek
After reading this paragraph for the third time I realized you have a very good point here. But quote by=Evan Simpson Relative in this context refers to the concept of a relative path as used in rfc1808, not to a relationship with a Zope object. It is meant for use in situations such as

[Zope-dev] WebDAV Collection/Resource Chameleon Question

2003-12-08 Thread Eric Roby
We are trying to make a 'folderish' (WebDAV Collection) class appear as a WebDAV Resource to WebDAV clients. I won't go into the reasons why we want to do this unless someone is interested. We have made several attempts at this but have been unsuccessful to date. Rather than go into all the

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Head (2.8) breaks refresh

2003-12-08 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jeremy Hylton wrote at 2003-12-7 23:01 -0500: On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 08:15, Dieter Maurer wrote: ATT: replacing the cache without clearing it can lead to huge memory leaks (everything in the old cache is leaked!). Without commenting on the rest of the bug report, I should mention that caches

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Dieter Maurer
Stefan H. Holek wrote at 2003-12-8 12:35 +0100: ... The ugly part is that the behavior of absolute_url(1) changes suddenly when the Vhost configuration starts to include inside-out parts (_vh_xyz). This means that is is possible to break (seemingly) working code by reconfiguring Apache. :-(

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Head (2.8) breaks refresh

2003-12-08 Thread Jeremy Hylton
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 13:17, Dieter Maurer wrote: Jeremy Hylton wrote at 2003-12-7 23:01 -0500: On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 08:15, Dieter Maurer wrote: ATT: replacing the cache without clearing it can lead to huge memory leaks (everything in the old cache is leaked!). Without commenting on

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Dieter Maurer
Stefan H. Holek wrote at 2003-12-8 19:14 +0100: ... So, what do we want relative to mean for absolute_url? I spelled it out more precisely in a recent post (after rereading RFC2693). In my view '/' + obj.absolute_url(1) should implement the absolute path relative URL for obj (as defined by

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope Head (2.8) breaks refresh

2003-12-08 Thread Dieter Maurer
Dieter Maurer wrote at 2003-12-7 14:15 +0100: Playing with Zope Head (as of 2003-12-04) revealed problems with refresh. Turns out to be a bug in ZODB.Connection.Connection._setDB: ConnectionObjectReader used the old cache while refresh cause a new cache to be installed later in

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope Head (2.8) breaks refresh

2003-12-08 Thread Jeremy Hylton
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:36, Dieter Maurer wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote at 2003-12-7 14:15 +0100: Playing with Zope Head (as of 2003-12-04) revealed problems with refresh. Turns out to be a bug in ZODB.Connection.Connection._setDB: ConnectionObjectReader used the old cache while

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope Head (2.8) breaks refresh

2003-12-08 Thread Yuppie
Jeremy Hylton wrote: @@ -158,8 +158,6 @@ -self._reader = ConnectionObjectReader(self, self._cache, - self._db._classFactory) @@ -168,6 +166,8 @@ +self._reader = ConnectionObjectReader(self, self._cache, +

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 07:14:28PM +0100, Stefan H. Holek wrote: After reading this paragraph for the third time I realized you have a very good point here. But quote by=Evan Simpson Relative in this context refers to the concept of a relative path as used in rfc1808, not to a

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.7 on Windows

2003-12-08 Thread J. Cameron Cooper
Lennart Regebro wrote: I'm having serious trouble in getting HEAD running in Windows. Obviously, configure doesn't work. :-) I found something on zope.org telling me to run python inst\configure.py and in in turn tells me to run nmake build. This builds Zope, but creates no z2.py or runzope.py

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 08:24:04PM +0100, Dieter Maurer wrote: Maybe, my contribution has not been read. Thus, I try again: / + absolute_url(1) should implement the notion of absolute-path URL reference (see RFC2396 section 5). This means, that the receiving browser

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope Head (2.8) breaks refresh

2003-12-08 Thread Jeremy Hylton
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:56, Yuppie wrote: Jeremy Hylton wrote: @@ -158,8 +158,6 @@ -self._reader = ConnectionObjectReader(self, self._cache, - self._db._classFactory) @@ -168,6 +166,8 @@ +self._reader =

Re: [Zope-dev] WebDAV Collection/Resource Chameleon Question

2003-12-08 Thread J. Cameron Cooper
Eric Roby wrote: We are trying to make a 'folderish' (WebDAV Collection) class appear as a WebDAV Resource to WebDAV clients. I won't go into the reasons why we want to do this unless someone is interested. We have made several attempts at this but have been unsuccessful to date. Rather than