Re: [Zope3-Users] Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Stefane Fermigier
Wade Leftwich wrote: > Guido van Rossum is looking for a web app framework. > > http://blog.delaguardia.com.mx/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=34&blogId=1 > > Zope is conspicuous by its absence from the discussion. Hardly a > mention, and no advocacy at all. Is Zope just too heavyweight for t

Re: [Zope3-Users] Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Stefane Fermigier wrote: Wade Leftwich wrote: Guido van Rossum is looking for a web app framework. http://blog.delaguardia.com.mx/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=34&blogId=1 Zope is conspicuous by its absence from the discussion. Hardly a mention, and no advocacy at all. Is Zope just t

[Zope3-Users] symbolic link

2006-02-02 Thread Marcus J. Ertl
Hello, I'm very shure, some time ago, someone told about a product for zope, doing a thing similiar to a symbolic link. Can you rember where to find it? Bye Marcus -- "The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large n

Re: [Zope3-Users] symbolic link

2006-02-02 Thread Gary Poster
On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Marcus J. Ertl wrote: Hello, I'm very shure, some time ago, someone told about a product for zope, doing a thing similiar to a symbolic link. Can you rember where to find it? Hi Marcus. We've got one. It's zc.shortcut, currently in our private repository. We

Re: [Zope3-Users] Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 2/2/06, Jean-Marc Orliaguet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this has to do with python being used both as a scripting > language and as a language to create high-level components. There will > always be a category of users looking for quick-and-dirty templating > capabilities in web framewo

Re: [Zope3-Users] Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Joel Moxley
> Stefane Fermigier wrote: > > >Wade Leftwich wrote: > > > > > >>Guido van Rossum is looking for a web app framework. > >> > >>http://blog.delaguardia.com.mx/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=34&blogId=1 > >> > >>Zope is conspicuous by its absence from the discussion. Hardly a > >>mention, and no

Re: [Zope3-Users] Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread William Ferrell
On 2/2/06, Joel Moxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opinion, I think a little branding could go a long way. Instead > of renaming the entire project, call it "Zope3 Zebra" or "Zope3 > Panther" (clearly these are horrible, but you can see where I am going > with this). > > Does this make sen

Re: [Zope3-Users] Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Stephan Richter
Hi Joel, I hope your app is season-ready. :-) On Thursday 02 February 2006 11:50, Joel Moxley wrote: > Does this make sense?  It's only a small rebrand (and the Zope3 stays > intact) and an assembly of components that already exist.  Basically, > you can use this occasion as a coming out party...

Re: [Zope3-Users] Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Fermigier Stefane
Stephan Richter wrote: >Actually, the Zope 2 and Plone community are starting using Zope 3 heavily so >the marketing will come. > And CPS, and Silva, too... S. ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo

[Zope3-Users] Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:00:04 -, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Joel, I hope your app is season-ready. :-) On Thursday 02 February 2006 11:50, Joel Moxley wrote: Does this make sense?  It's only a small rebrand (and the Zope3 stays intact) and an assembly of components tha

[Zope3-Users] Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:50:30 -, Joel Moxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've followed the Guido blogs/discussion loosely. As a relative newcomer, this is my first real experience with the Python community's confusion of Zope2 and Zope3. I've seen on the list that people have been discussi

Re: [Zope3-Users] Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 02 February 2006 14:45, Fermigier Stefane wrote: > And CPS, and Silva, too... Well, you already are using it heavily. :-) Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training _

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 02 February 2006 15:01, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Philipp W and others have commented on Zope 3's utter lack of marketing   > (anyone been to zope.org lately?) and how it is probably hurting its   > adoption. Having just learnt Zope 3 myself, I'm telling others it's   > wonderful, and then

[Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:42:25 -, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 02 February 2006 15:01, Martin Aspeli wrote: Philipp W and others have commented on Zope 3's utter lack of marketing   (anyone been to zope.org lately?) and how it is probably hurting its   adoption.

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 02 February 2006 15:48, Martin Aspeli wrote: > > I am pretty sure there is a SOAP implementation for Zope 3 and it is in > > svn.zope.org. > > You missed my point (unless that was dry humour)... With all the discussion about the Cubed project today, I guess I have not much humor left

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 02 February 2006 15:07, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Those very   > same Plone and Zope 2 developers will be more likely to push towards Zope   > 3 if they feel others are using it, are convinced it has a future, and are >   convinced they will be able to collaborate with developers on unrela

[Zope3-Users] Still trying to figure out PAU

2006-02-02 Thread Florian Lindner
Hello, I'm still desperately trying to figure out the PluggableAuthentication. I perform the following steps: 1) Create an instance of my folderish, possible site (named A), content object. 2) I create a site in it. 3) I add a PAU in the default software space 4) I add a SessionCredentialsPlu

[Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:05:32 -, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No-one who doesn't   already read this list has heard of Zope 3 (as in, they understand what   it's all about, and they understand the distinction between Zope 2 and   Zope 3) and very few have heard of Zope in g

[Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:12:27 -, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Having said that, I feel very strongly that built Zope version 3 and nothing more or less. And I feel that a name change would betray me and my intentions. Well, Joel didn't suggest a name change, he suggested a

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Ron Bickers
On Thu February 2 2006 16:05, Stephan Richter wrote: > Yeah, but honestly I don't care. If people choose a technology on name > recognition and not on technical merit, then it is their bad. However, I > question the RoR hype. I wonder whether big companies seriously > considering it; it has absolu

Re: [Zope3-Users] Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Gary Poster
This is an interesting thread. Some opinions and observations: Guido will do what Guido does. His seeming antagonism to Zope is a little annoying, but he's opinionated on other topics too, and sometimes admits to being wrong and human. As some folks mentioned, it does sound like he maybe

Re: [Zope3-Users] Still trying to figure out PAU

2006-02-02 Thread Gary Poster
On Feb 2, 2006, at 4:41 PM, Florian Lindner wrote: Hello, I'm still desperately trying to figure out the PluggableAuthentication. Since no one has replied, I'll try my "30-second remediation" technique again. ;-) That means I didn't really follow exactly what you are doing, and I'm jus

[Zope3-Users] Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Alexander Limi
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 08:50:30 -0800, Joel Moxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've followed the Guido blogs/discussion loosely. As a relative newcomer, this is my first real experience with the Python community's confusion of Zope2 and Zope3. I've seen on the list that people have been discussi

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Shane Hathaway
Ron Bickers wrote: Today, I see the mess that a Zope 2 site can turn in to, so I started looking at Zope 3 again. The release announcements say it's ready for production use, but the website has no promotion of it whatsoever. You have to dig several levels deep to see any mention that it's no