DEMF tip

2000-04-28 Thread Gerald
Just heard from someone that each of the 3 days will be designated to a
certain musical genre. 

Those 3 being - House, Techno, and Hip Hop.

Also, they are banking on the largest draw being the Hip Hop day.

Cheers,

Gerald.


Re: (313) Discographies

2000-04-28 Thread OscillateX2

In a message dated 4/27/00 5:25:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

np. Detroit Breaks - Maas 

Actually, it's called Michigan Breaks...

pw


Re: (313) DEMF tip

2000-04-28 Thread Dale Lawrence

Well... those that would be updating the
website also happen to be on the 313 list
and will be attending the website, so I'm
sure the website will be updated as fast
as someone can post a report here anyway.  ;P

nyah.

Dale


At 05:44 PM 4/27/00 PDT, you wrote:
The press conference for the festival is May 1st. Though it set to be up on 
the web a couple hours after, would anyone here in the detroit area who is 
attending want to volunteer as (313) liason? Perhaps take notes at the press 
junkit to relay to (313)?

diana




Re: (313) DEMF tip

2000-04-28 Thread Dale Lawrence

How redundant can I get?  I meant and will be
attending the press conference

Too many webpages, not enough sunshine I guess...

At 08:58 PM 4/27/00 -0400, you wrote:

   Well... those that would be updating the
   website also happen to be on the 313 list
   and will be attending the website, so I'm
   sure the website will be updated as fast
   as someone can post a report here anyway.  ;P

   nyah.

   Dale


At 05:44 PM 4/27/00 PDT, you wrote:
The press conference for the festival is May 1st. Though it set to be up on 
the web a couple hours after, would anyone here in the detroit area who is 
attending want to volunteer as (313) liason? Perhaps take notes at the
press 
junkit to relay to (313)?

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Fwd: Fw: [digitalnoise] the final email....

2000-04-28 Thread Diana Potts


for those thinking u have forever to listen to the Paris live PA in Miami, 
please read on.Basically u have till the end of May to listen to it.

this was forwarded to me by mark f. of 313

  RIP

frustrated.
diana



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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 4:05 PM
Subject: [digitalnoise] the final email



 ... digitalnoise ...
... update ...
   
  ..

 1 THU APR 27 - digitalnoise closes up the shop

 Okay, so by now you all pretty much know that last night's webcast with 
DJ Suv was our last one. (It was a wicked way to go out too.. look for the 
archive soon). I've been getting a lot of emails asking what the deal is, 
so I figured since I've hit up your email boxes with at least 200 emails 
over the past year and a half, I might as well send out one more and 
explain the situation.


 Some of you on this email list have been on here since the begining, but 
some of you may not know that digitalnoise has actually been around since 
September 1998. We started out broadcasting two nights a week from my loft 
in Brooklyn with DJs like Christian Bruna, Holmar Filipsson, A.Gram, Justin 
Johnson, Ulysses, Dharma, the Satellite Records crew, the Funky Soul Rebels 
and more. The DJs provided the beats for 2 hours each and we provided an 
endless supply of Brooklyn Lager (a fine micro brew). The first show was 
done by Holmar Filipsson and both he, the digi.crew and the 12 or so people 
hanging out that night had no idea what to expect. I think we had 5 
listeners that first broadcast. There were more people in my loft than 
there were online :)


 Well, Holmar's set was unebelievably good and completely inspired me and 
the rest of the digi.crew to press on. It wasn't too long after our first 
Brooklyn Studio show that we made the switch to live webcasts from clubs. 
Jungle Nation and Konkrete Jungle were our first two regular events. We 
eventually added N'Ice, Sticky, Physics, Direct Drive and took on special 
one-off events. You rag-tagged digi.crew managed to broadcast 3 events from 
the Winter Music Conference 1999 with only 2 weeks of planning. We got to 
carry more CMJ events in 1999 than anyone else and we must've set records 
for remote webcasting with our 48 hour Baktun marathon and two simultaneous 
streams of audio and video for 12 hours straight from Engage down in 
Washington, DC. All in all, its been a fantastic year and a half.


 So what's the problem? Well, the entire digitalnoise.com site is
 basically cared for by 4 people. Expenses were covered out of our own 
pockets (do you know how much Ethernet cable is needed to wire a network in 
the Washington DC Armory??) and we all had other jobs - thankfully with 
very flexible hours and understanding co-workers (thanks CTG!).


 Our goal was to make digitalnoise even more than it currently is. We had
 plans for a new air studio to go back to our Brooklyn Studio roots and
 even more live club broadcasts. We wanted to add quality video, better
 audio, and more features to the site. All of this takes even more time
 and much more money. Being that we're a dot com and a fairly
 successfull one, we figured it shouldn't be too hard to get some
 investors to help us out and kick start digitalnoise to the next level.
 Unfortunately, we couldn't do that.

 We've spend the last 6 months or so looking for serious startup capital.
 Either from a lack of experience in raising the money, or from the
 investors' general impression that 'electronica' isn't popular enough, 
we

 just couldn't pull it off. We're positive that digitalnoise would have
 become one of the most extensive content and community sites centered
 around DJ-orientated music. There's no doubt in my mind. We just 
couldn't

 convince the people with money that this was the case.

 So now we've put ourselves into debt, wrecked relationships, quit jobs
 and generally over extended ourselves to pull this off. Was it worth it?
 Hells yes!! I wouldn't trade in the time I spent on digitalnoise for
 anything. Looking back over the 200+ webcasts we've carried (more remote
 webcasts than anyone ever has before - well over 1000 hours of music) 
I'm
 proud to say we probably had the best and most consitent webcast 
schedule

 on the Internet - especially for drum'n'bass.

 The only problem is that we stopped getting better. We have this grand
 vision of what digitalnoise should be and without the startup capital we
 just can't pull it off. So without being able to reach that goal, we've
 decided that its time to move on.

 with that said though, there actually is still a glimmer of hope. 
I'm

 not lieing when I say we are actually still talking with people and
 trying to make things happen. It's a last ditch effort, but if things do
 work out, digitalnoise will eventually startup again and things will be
 totally 

Re: (313) Detroit Gran Pubas live

2000-04-28 Thread Hans Veneman
 Can someone repost the URL for that Heckle  Jeckle/DGP set in RealVideo?

You mean this one?

http://player.pseudo.com/real_clip.asp?id_arc=5268

Cheers,
Hans

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RE: (313) Books (was rough guide to techno)

2000-04-28 Thread Jason Birchmeier
I went to Borders tonight to get a copy of rough guide to techno and was
sad to find out that it isn't due to be published here in the US until June.

I did stumble onto some interesting info about another book written by Tim
Barr called Brighter Daze that is also due to be published in June.  Looks
to be another techno rebels/gen ecstacy-style book on the history of dance
music.  I don't know what the emphasis is though.  I'm trying to contact the
publisher and get a press copy.

Anyone hear anything about this book?

...Jason

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Books (was rough guide to techno)


While books are in issue i'd like to recommend a book i picked up from the
music library at uni. It's a brand new book but from a major publisher so it
shouldnt be to hard to track down. Its called
Discographies : dance music, culture and the politics of sound By Jeremy
Gilbert and Ewan Pearson.(Published: London ; New York : Routledge, 1999.)
And I cant do it justice in a short description but its a critical /
theoretical / cultural approach to many of the issues involved in dance
music (which in their definition includes house, techno, soul,disco hip hop
etc). Their analysis draws on contemporary critical theory using the work of
Barthes, Kristeva, Derrida, Foucault et al. (while it utilizes these
thinkers the book is always careful to explain the ideas that they are
drawing on - you dont have to go and read the thinkers to understand the
book) Its not a history but a very sophisticated analysis of the the role of
music and dance music in particular in western culture. Of particular
interest was a section where they looked at some of the reasons why western
culture is so resistant to dance music. Its quite academic but very
rewarding - i dont find it arrogant or pretensious either but i have some
experience with this sort of writing. I'd recommend it to any one who is
interested in 'dance music' in the broadest sense of the word. Its also very
applicable to experimental electronic music. Any one who wants some more
info feel free to email me.
Peace
Josh


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Re: (313) Track ID

2000-04-28 Thread Simon.Conway


 Stacey Pullen's betalounge set from the Transmat tour in SF, 46 minutes in,
 has a slammin choon. It has a sample Let the bass kick. Any help?

sounds like it could be an old N-Joi track, but I suppose I should listen
to the set first, eh? :)

or it could be enigma.. a dutch pregabber thing
but i suppose i should listen to the set first as well :)


haven't listened to this set either [naturally!] - but there's a track
that sample 'let the bass kick' by the hacker out on goodlife records
recently out of france - could be that.?

cheers!

simon




Re: (313) Track ID

2000-04-28 Thread Otto Koppius
marsel wrote:
 
 or it could be enigma.. a dutch pregabber thing

That'd be Egma, not Enigma :)
Released in 1991 on Midtown (!) I think, right around that early Praga
Khan-style era. I'm pretty sure they sampled the Let the bass kick and
speeded it up a little, but for the life of me I couldn't remember where
from. The track in Stacey Pullen's set is different though, although the
sample sounds similar, only slightly slower.

Otto


this SUNDAY...SWANK! 4/30

2000-04-28 Thread Thecmg999
Come check out SWANK this Sunday, 4/30, at the Token Lounge in the 
oh-so-beautiful Westland, MI. To kick off the first week, Michael Geiger will 
be in the main room with Kruse Kontrol and JB in the other room. ladies get 
in for free and  dudes, you pay $7. if you are a dude over 21 you get a free 
drink ticket worth $4. Anyway, see you guys there.

Token Lounge
28949 joy road  
2 blocks east of middlebelt.

Directions:
basically get to 96. If you are coming form the East: take 96 west to 
middlebelt rd. go left onto middlebelt. take that 2 miles until you hit Joy 
road. take left on Joy. It will be 2 blocks up on your left hand side.

From the West. 96 west to middlebelt. take right on middlebelt, go 2 miles 
down, take left at Joy Rd. 2 blocks up on your right hand side.


Re: (313) Track ID

2000-04-28 Thread Phonopsia
Yeah. It isn't that one. : I think that was one of the first techno songs
I ever heard though. Different vocal sample, but the same words.

Tristan
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sounds like it could be an old N-Joi track, but I suppose I should listen
to the set first, eh? :)

-d

On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Phonopsia wrote:

 Not sure if this was asked recently or not.

 Stacey Pullen's betalounge set from the Transmat tour in SF, 46 minutes
in,
 has a slammin choon. It has a sample Let the bass kick. Any help?

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Re: (313) Fwd: Derrick May in NY?

2000-04-28 Thread OscillateX2
Spoke to the folks at Transmat and Derrick is expected to arrive in town 
later this afternoon...

I saw flyers on the street this week...poorly promoted, but...

pw


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Somehow hadn't heard this being promoted, but someone just forwarded this
to 
me; anyone know whether this has been confirmed?

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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:43:51 -0400
From: MailingLiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Imagine Fridays

Tom Mello invites you to:
Imagine Fridays @ Exit
610 W 56th Street NYC
This Friday:
DJ's Derrick May and O'Sheen
call 212-330-9018

Every Sunday
Bill Spector invites you to
Enjoy @ Chaos
225 E Houston St (NYC)
still going strong!  with DJ Mark Ronson
call 212-629-2098



rave and 313

2000-04-28 Thread _tan_

313ers...

I was going through my housemates records the other day and found an old 
rave classic called Can You feel It by Terrorize on Hamster Records 
(1992) ... now i know Kevin Saunderson did a few remixes of rave tunes in 
the early 90s and this is one of them.. but what i found surprising was the 
additional production credit going to Stacey Pullen. are there any other 
rave tunes that 313 musicians remixed???


tan...
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Verdict

2000-04-28 Thread Myke Mitchell
Hey all, just curious to know if anyone has any comments on the ruling that 
came out today that said MP3.COM has infringed copyright laws of the 
recording industry.  See it here:


http://webcrawler-news.excite.com/news/ap/000428/12/mp3-lawsuit

Crazy shit!  Pieces

MM

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Re: (313) Help!

2000-04-28 Thread Kuri Kondrak
the sonic groove web site stated that it was from the same producer.

kuri
 Quick question, that new Abuser record that came out this week, is that done 
 by User??  Cuz if it's not it's a blatant rip-off, not only musically but in 
 artistic terms as well (the label on there is the same one that User uses!). 
 Thanks in advance for the info!  Pieces...
 
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vocals and whatnot

2000-04-28 Thread The Deliverator
Hello All,

Thanks to those who posted info on the RZ-1.  FWIW, there is one on ebay at the 
moment for around USD100.  It still has five days left though

On a completely different trip, I was wondering if anyone out there could 
recommend some good techno with *tastefull* vocal samples.  I really like the 
mills' style of vocal use in 'if'-  the vocals are there, but are treated like 
any other instrument.  They don't overpower the song.

Once again, thanks for all your assistance (collectively!)

out

jim


Re: (techno) Verdict

2000-04-28 Thread ryan daum
A spectre is haunting [the record industry]... it is the spectre of...

On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Myke Mitchell wrote:

 Hey all, just curious to know if anyone has any comments on the ruling that 
 came out today that said MP3.COM has infringed copyright laws of the 
 recording industry.  See it here:
 
 http://webcrawler-news.excite.com/news/ap/000428/12/mp3-lawsuit
 
 Crazy shit!  Pieces
 
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Question

2000-04-28 Thread Myke Mitchell

Hey all!  Just a quick question, anyone hear of the following record:

james lLennet vs plastikman - jazz fanatics (minus)

I haven't seen/heard this before, any comments, reviews??  Thanks.

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show602:Andrew Duke's In The Mix now online on Cognition http://techno.ca/cognition

2000-04-28 Thread Andrew Duke
now online on Cognition:
http://techno.ca/cognition

Andrew Duke's In The Mix show 602

here's the tracklisting

show 602 part one:
Technasia's Charles Siegling (FR/HK Technasia/Sino)
exclusive guest DJ mix; there's 29 tracks in this mix;
full tracklisting available on Cognition for this mix

show 602 part two:
   1. Plasm Nesonic--Internal Facade from Automated Choice
Response EP (NL Delsin test)
   2. Universal Principles--Latin Stroll from Inspiration 
Light (UK Soma)
   3. Peter Kruder--Root Down (DM Compost test)
   4. Isolee--Music... from Rest (DM Playhouse)
   5. Audio Totem Pole--Damascus from ATP2 12 (US Audio Totem
Pole)
   6. Hollis P. Monroe--You Belong With Me from Every Night EP
(US Fiji test)
   7. Da Kine--Downstream from Drift002 EP (US Driftwood test)
   8. D. Diggler (Andreas Mugge)--B1 from Feel My Heat (DM
Raum...Musik test)
   9. G. Pal--The Passion For The Phuture from The Passion EP
(US Plastic City USA test)
   10. John Tejada--String Theory from Significant Numbers EP
(US Seventh City test)
   11. Technasia--Force from Force EP (FR/HK Technasia)
   12. Brinton McKay (John Selway)--Real Cool (Abe Duque remix)
from RAP002 12 (US Rapture
   test)
   13. Le Car--Audiofile 10 (Ectomorph version) from Le Car
Remixed EP (US Ersatz Audio test)
   14. Redshift--Intro from Fear/Decay EP (UK Surface Effect
CDR)
   15. Redshift--Fear from Fear/Decay EP (UK Surface Effect CDR)

   16. Shawn Rudiman--Blue Empire from Blue Empire EP (US
Hypervinyl test)
   17. Solenoid--Elsemoon from Alt. Frequencies (4th
Installment) compilation (UK Worm Interface)

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Re: (313) Help!

2000-04-28 Thread ryan burns

the new abuser is user.  im not a fan of all of the user stuff.
but this is one of the best (ab)users out.   i also got the new dan bell rmx 
on LADOMAT... basicly it sounds like a big web pussy played over  techno.  
if you like bell you would like this track



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Quick question, that new Abuser record that came out this week, is that 
done
by User??  Cuz if it's not it's a blatant rip-off, not only musically but 
in
artistic terms as well (the label on there is the same one that User 
uses!).

Thanks in advance for the info!  Pieces...

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Re: (313) DEMF tip

2000-04-28 Thread Hugh G. Blaze
Where can I get info about the press conference. I am a reporter for a local 
media source, and would like to register. I didn't see anything on the 
website.






How redundant can I get?  I meant and will be
attending the press conference

Too many webpages, not enough sunshine I guess...

At 08:58 PM 4/27/00 -0400, you wrote:

Well... those that would be updating the
website also happen to be on the 313 list
and will be attending the website, so I'm
sure the website will be updated as fast
as someone can post a report here anyway.  ;P

nyah.

Dale


At 05:44 PM 4/27/00 PDT, you wrote:
The press conference for the festival is May 1st. Though it set to be up 
on
the web a couple hours after, would anyone here in the detroit area who 
is

attending want to volunteer as (313) liason? Perhaps take notes at the
press
junkit to relay to (313)?

diana



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Re: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw

2000-04-28 Thread Cyborg K
When you don't have much money, you make do with what you have.  Techno is 
empowering because it allows individuals who have less money still be able 
to afford the means of production, so they can realize their creative 
spirit.  My setup is pretty ghetto, but it's funny how much I end up getting 
out of it in the end.  The Alesis HR16 is one of my weapons of choice for my 
live PA though.  And although I'm biased, I think that being able to bang a 
ghetto set up is a real art that deserves respect.  


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Subject: Re: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:51:33 +0200


  Of course you get the BOSS drummachines FOR THEIR CRAP SOUNDS! You can
 get

WORD!

  808/909 sounds from everywhere, but it's the unique sounds in those
  machines that make them interesting. It's great to see producers
 makin'
  tracks, whole records even, just with a simple drummachine. I know
 there are
  lot of people who say you must search for the most extreme and unique
  sounds as possible, synth your own sounds etc., but I think using
 what's available at the time is most important. You can make any old 
shit


 sound cool if you just analyze what's good about it and what's not, then
 you
 use it for it's GOOD features, be it sounds, sequncer, filters etc.
   Perhaps it's showing us something when most drumpatterns in modern
 techno
  -and housemusic are basic, average shit. 4/4 kick, a snare, handclaps
 and
  hi-hats, that's all about there is. There's lots of cheap and useful
 gear, why not use them and make things a little funkier?

Funny, I was just thinking about this drummachine-thing and realised that
909s and 808s
don't do it for me as much as indeed cheap drummachines such as a Tr505 or
Alesis HR16
nowadays which are lot more exotic to hear.
I just bought a Roland R5 (a sort of  R8 for people withouth money back
then) for almost nothing and I am happier with it then I possibly could be
with a dozen 909's or MC303 grooveboxes.
Its so dirty! the groove is completely deranged and sounds like an old italo
disco drummer on some wrong dope.
(Know I've heard a lot of people complaining about Rolands lack of tight
MIDI triggering on some of
their older instruments, but this simply adds realism!)


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Re: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw

2000-04-28 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
I can verify that Cyborg K can bang pretty good with that setup too!!!  A
big thumbs up for his keyboarding skills, that's to say the least! :)

Matt
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 When you don't have much money, you make do with what you have.  Techno is
 empowering because it allows individuals who have less money still be able
 to afford the means of production, so they can realize their creative
 spirit.  My setup is pretty ghetto, but it's funny how much I end up
getting
 out of it in the end.  The Alesis HR16 is one of my weapons of choice for
my
 live PA though.  And although I'm biased, I think that being able to bang
a
 ghetto set up is a real art that deserves respect.