Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION
Ford owns Jaguar automobiles as well as some others (Volvo, Autin Marten, Mazda...) but why the hell would they put a Jaguar on their Ford brand cars? That's like putting a Rolls Royce label on a Toyota. Does it have anything to do with the UR tune? I couldn't see them really trying to connect on this level. It's just too deep a connection (Detroit Techno = UR's Jaguar) for a company to try and market it this way. Doesn't make sense. Fred From: *** ASKEW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:05:09 GMT defragged wrote: Focus and Street Edition will feature an image exclaiming Detroit Techno on posters and in print ads. The Street Edition is the third in a series of Focus statement cars built since Focus was launched in the U.S. last year. The Sony Limited Edition Focus and the Kona Mountain Bike Edition were the first two statement cars. Apparently the 'Sony Ltd. Edition' Focus features European styling, 'Jaguar' badges (in place of Ford badges) and is decked out in British racing green. But, I hear the highway performance is disappointing compared to the Detroit Techno/Street Edition. awareness, interest, desire, action, satisfaction ~Askew _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] KDJ discography
Im pretty sure his disco revisited (emotional content?) ep on TP's Intagible label was the first ep he did under the name Kenny Dixon Jr. unless theres some obscure releases hes done that didn't see the light of day outside detroit? That was around 1995.. j This weekend i ran into an old KDJ record on Soul City, the label said it was recorded in 1996. Is there someone who knows when he recorded his first record? I tried looking at this KDJ discography page at: http://twoplayer.net/kdj/ but it seems it isn't there anymore. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION
rhymes with carcasm On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, FRED MCMURRY wrote: Ford owns Jaguar automobiles as well as some others (Volvo, Autin Marten, Mazda...) but why the hell would they put a Jaguar on their Ford brand cars? That's like putting a Rolls Royce label on a Toyota. Does it have anything to do with the UR tune? I couldn't see them really trying to connect on this level. It's just too deep a connection (Detroit Techno = UR's Jaguar) for a company to try and market it this way. Doesn't make sense. Fred From: *** ASKEW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:05:09 GMT defragged wrote: Focus and Street Edition will feature an image exclaiming Detroit Techno on posters and in print ads. The Street Edition is the third in a series of Focus statement cars built since Focus was launched in the U.S. last year. The Sony Limited Edition Focus and the Kona Mountain Bike Edition were the first two statement cars. Apparently the 'Sony Ltd. Edition' Focus features European styling, 'Jaguar' badges (in place of Ford badges) and is decked out in British racing green. But, I hear the highway performance is disappointing compared to the Detroit Techno/Street Edition. awareness, interest, desire, action, satisfaction ~Askew _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION
maybe since it was on the EuroFocus (was that as big of a winner as EuroDisney??) it was a tie between EuroFord and BMG?? i don't know. if i remember right Mike told me the cover of the rip off was a jaguire head pressed into a pill. i wonder what perscription medicine has that pressed in it. not ritilan... jeff -Original Message- From: FRED MCMURRY [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION Ford owns Jaguar automobiles as well as some others (Volvo, Autin Marten, Mazda...) but why the hell would they put a Jaguar on their Ford brand cars? That's like putting a Rolls Royce label on a Toyota. Does it have anything to do with the UR tune? I couldn't see them really trying to connect on this level. It's just too deep a connection (Detroit Techno = UR's Jaguar) for a company to try and market it this way. Doesn't make sense. Fred From: *** ASKEW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:05:09 GMT defragged wrote: Focus and Street Edition will feature an image exclaiming Detroit Techno on posters and in print ads. The Street Edition is the third in a series of Focus statement cars built since Focus was launched in the U.S. last year. The Sony Limited Edition Focus and the Kona Mountain Bike Edition were the first two statement cars. Apparently the 'Sony Ltd. Edition' Focus features European styling, 'Jaguar' badges (in place of Ford badges) and is decked out in British racing green. But, I hear the highway performance is disappointing compared to the Detroit Techno/Street Edition. awareness, interest, desire, action, satisfaction ~Askew _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION
first of all, it's aston martin. as seen driven by vintage bonds. and the body. second; ford is run by an aussie. he's a tough boss - street educated thirdly; to cut costs they use ford switchgear in aston martin and jaguar autos. the purists complain. detroit continues to infiltrate the world. vw has germany tied up in a sort of third wave, but detroit's chrysler hooked up with benz... who will buy bmw? bond.jamesbond. - Original Message - From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION Ford owns Jaguar automobiles as well as some others (Volvo, Autin Marten, Mazda...) but why the hell would they put a Jaguar on their Ford brand cars? That's like putting a Rolls Royce label on a Toyota. Does it have anything to do with the UR tune? I couldn't see them really trying to connect on this level. It's just too deep a connection (Detroit Techno = UR's Jaguar) for a company to try and market it this way. Doesn't make sense. Fred From: *** ASKEW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:05:09 GMT defragged wrote: Focus and Street Edition will feature an image exclaiming Detroit Techno on posters and in print ads. The Street Edition is the third in a series of Focus statement cars built since Focus was launched in the U.S. last year. The Sony Limited Edition Focus and the Kona Mountain Bike Edition were the first two statement cars. Apparently the 'Sony Ltd. Edition' Focus features European styling, 'Jaguar' badges (in place of Ford badges) and is decked out in British racing green. But, I hear the highway performance is disappointing compared to the Detroit Techno/Street Edition. awareness, interest, desire, action, satisfaction ~Askew _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION
bmw owns the spirit of ecstasy... vw/audi owns bentley.. i can feel a merger... - Original Message - From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION Ford owns Jaguar automobiles as well as some others (Volvo, Autin Marten, Mazda...) but why the hell would they put a Jaguar on their Ford brand cars? That's like putting a Rolls Royce label on a Toyota. Does it have anything to do with the UR tune? I couldn't see them really trying to connect on this level. It's just too deep a connection (Detroit Techno = UR's Jaguar) for a company to try and market it this way. Doesn't make sense. Fred From: *** ASKEW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:05:09 GMT defragged wrote: Focus and Street Edition will feature an image exclaiming Detroit Techno on posters and in print ads. The Street Edition is the third in a series of Focus statement cars built since Focus was launched in the U.S. last year. The Sony Limited Edition Focus and the Kona Mountain Bike Edition were the first two statement cars. Apparently the 'Sony Ltd. Edition' Focus features European styling, 'Jaguar' badges (in place of Ford badges) and is decked out in British racing green. But, I hear the highway performance is disappointing compared to the Detroit Techno/Street Edition. awareness, interest, desire, action, satisfaction ~Askew _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
women and electronic music
Hi everyone, As some of you know i'm working on a paper about women and electronic music. As there isn't much information about the topic in existing literature i'm hoping that you will be willing to help me out by replying to this survey. I'm interested in what you all think is going on here. It should take about 10-15 minutes to complete. If all goes well i might turn this into my dissertation cuz i think it's a topic that definitely needs some more attention and i'm totally interested in your experiences. If you have any questions or would like to make any additional comments please feel free to do so. Please pass this along to any women you know who might be willing to take the time to help me out. Thank you VERY much =)) bekka. Rebekah Farrugia Department of Communication University of Iowa WOMEN AND ELECTRONIC MUSIC This questionnaire is intended for WOMEN over the age of 18. It will take approximately 10-15 minutes to complete. Your assistance is very much appreciated. This research is being conducted as part of my course work for a graduate level popular music studies course at the University of Iowa. I hope to use the results gathered in the body of my term paper for the course. The focus of the paper will be to examine women's relationship to electronic music, via a discussion of interest, accomplishments, and barriers. It is my hope that this paper will serve as the beginning of a dialogue about women's interactions and experiences with electronic music and its surrounding culture. **I intend to link names to respondents in my research. However, I will ensure confidentiality for respondents who indicate that they prefer anonymity.** PLEASE NOTE: BY COMPLETING THIS QUESTIONAIRE AND FORWARDING IT TO ME YOU ARE GIVING ME PERMISSION TO USE THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN MY RESEARCH. YOU MUST BE OVER 18-YEARS-OLD TO COMPLETE THE QUESTIONNAIRE. Please forward your responses to [EMAIL PROTECTED] by DECEMBER 1, 2000 (the sooner the better actually). If you received this email as a forward from a friend and would prefer to remain anonymous to myself please send your responses to that person who will, after deleting any identifying information (i.e. your email address and name) forward the questionnaire to me. If you have any questions regarding the questionnaire or the focus of my research please feel free to contact me. Also, if you know of any one who might be interested in completing this questionnaire, please forward it IN ITS ENTIRETY (including this introduction) to that person. I thank you for taking the time to read this and hope that you will be able to be able to answer the following questions. Rebekah Farrugia Communication Studies University of Iowa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please answer the following questions as honestly as possible. If there is any question that you feel unwilling or unable to answer simply skip it and move on to the next. Feel free to expand on any answer. Responses can be answered in the body of the text or at the end of the questionnaire. 1. DO YOU PREFER THAT YOUR ANSWERS REMAIN ANONYMOUS? 2. AGE 3. HOW WOULD YOU CATEGORIZE YOUR CURRENT INVOLVEMENT WITH THE MUSIC? (I.E., DJ, PRODUCER, FAN, PROMOTER, RECORD COLLECTOR, DANCER, ETC.) 4. WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST INTRODUCTION TO THE MUSIC? WHAT WAS YOUR PATH TO WHERE YOU ARE NOW? 5. DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC INFLUENCES, NOT NECESSARILY EXPLICITLY RELATED TO THE MUSIC/SCENE THAT HAVE INSPIRED AND/OR ENCOURAGED YOUR INVOLVEMENT? 6. DO YOU FEEL THAT WOMEN ARE REPRESENTED IN LITERATURE (BOOKS, MAGAZINES, WEBSITES) PERTAINING TO THE SCENE? IF YES, ARE THEY REPRESENTED ACCURATEY? PLEASE EXPLAIN. 7. WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT/RESPECT DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE GOTTEN FROM YOUR MALE COUNTERPARTS? HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO SOCIALIZE WITH/BE INCLUDED BY MEN IN THE SCENE? 8. WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE SOME OF THE GREATEST OBSTACLES FACING WOMEN DJS AND PRODUCERS (OR OTHER ROLES) OF ELECTRONIC MUSIC AT THE CURRENT TIME? 9. IF YOU COULD SAY ONE THING TO OTHER WOMEN WHO ARE INVOLVED WITH OR THINKING ABOUT BECOMING MORE ACTIVE WITH ELECTRONIC MUSIC WHAT WOULD IT BE? 10. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN RESPONSE TO THESE QUESTIONS OR THE TOPIC IN GENERAL? 11. DID YOU RECEIVE (AS PART OF THIS EMAIL) AN INTRODUCTORY SECTION INCLUDING THE PURPOSE OF THE QUESTIONNAIRE, AS WELL AS HOW TO CONTACT THE RESEARCHER? **IF YOU ANSWERED NO TO QUESTION 11 YOUR RESPONSES CANNOT BE USED. PLEASE EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO REQUEST THIS INFORMATION. Thank you for your time! ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Bad SOH? (was FOCUS DETROIT...)
defragged wrote: Focus and Street Edition will feature an image exclaiming Detroit Techno on posters and in print ads. The Street Edition is the third in a series of Focus statement cars built since Focus was launched in the U.S. last year. The Sony Limited Edition Focus and the Kona Mountain Bike Edition were the first two statement cars. I wrote: Apparently the 'Sony Ltd. Edition' Focus features European styling, 'Jaguar' badges (in place of Ford badges) and is decked out in British racing green. But, I hear the highway performance is disappointing compared to the Detroit Techno/Street Edition. Fred wrote: Ford owns Jaguar automobiles as well as some others (Volvo, Autin Marten, Mazda...) but why the hell would they put a Jaguar on their Ford brand cars? That's like putting a Rolls Royce label on a Toyota. Nathan wrote: rhymes with carcasm Detroit techno - motor cars - Sony Ltd Edition You can blame my bad (?) sense of humour. Although, Defragged's original post (see above) does mention a Sony limited edition of the Focus... I made the rest up. electronic sarcasm doesn't travel too well :) ~Askew _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] Fw: (tech-house) ford focus commercial
I Always tought Moby invented techno :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Todd Gys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 14 november 2000 20:54 Aan: 'paul'; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] Fw: (tech-house) ford focus commercial That's what you get when you don't use a well known detroit techno pioneer like Paul Oakenfold. GYS -Original Message- From: paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:55 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Fw: (tech-house) ford focus commercial thought you may like this - Original Message - From: Scott Findley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 4:48 PM Subject: (tech-house) ford focus commercial so Im sittin in bed last night firin one up, and a car commercial comes on crappy 'techno', you know, the standard fare.. not a quality commercial by any means.. and the at the end of the commercial (for the lovely ford focus), in big letters DETROIT TECHNO I just about dry heaved. anybody else see this? I think Id be a little less appaled if they had gotten some proper detroit techno for the background :P oh well, most people probablly wont get it anyway _scott findley _robot factory _losangeles CA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Video Vinyl
One of my favorite news-sites ( http://slashdot.org ) had listed a site called http://www.vinylvideo.com/ -- looks like a software setup that takes the input from records and makes 'video' from it...I didnt read all of it, but just wanted to sent the URL along... -Dustin
Two Moody Q's
I have a copy with the label, it plays fine. I also have a two sided white copy that says rehearsals (KDJ-28B) with two tracks on the b side. It also plays fine. Truth I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it for myself... _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
[313] UR/Rolando in Detroit news 11.15.00
F.Y.I. http://detnews.com With still images of the Jaguar video and his mug blazened on the front page, with the quote : ROLANDO;TECHNO WIZARD COMES HOME Good press it seems for the keepers of the Deep Opinions? Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: [313] new tejada/leviste on moods grooves
jurren baars wrote: just read the new releases list from sonicgroove, and i must say this one will probably get me running to the recordstore. but before i do that, lets ask the nice people at the 313-list on their opinions on these new tunes. Tejada Leviste / Where Circles Begin (deep ethereal tech-house) Moods Grooves12 $6.99 ***i can give you a thumbs up on this one. great stuff. andrew don't forget about the fundraising auction on http://techno.ca/cognition duke ps interview with tejada here: http://techno.ca/cognition/tejada.htm -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix 3rd annual Fundraising Auction for CKDU is now underway: http://techno.ca/cognition auction ends Wednesday November 29 at 12noon AST
Focus Commercial
Saw the Ford ad last night on fox and it is pretty cool. It seems to be running pretty consistantly during prime time for those wanting to see it here in the states. I checked out the site televisioncommercials.com to see if they added it yet to their site. Maybe if a few more people sent them an email it might get added faster. daveNYC
Re: [idm] Re: what the
Diana Potts wrote: i wanted to stay silent on this b/c 313 just went through this. Ford isn't exploiting any one. This was done with Juan's consent snip just wanted to echo diana's comments. and this being posted on the idm list, which initially grew out of an aphex twin list, i thought i should point this out: years ago (maybe even 5?) aphex twin's music was being used in commercials: i can remember the commercial for Pirelli in particular because it won some awards. There are essentially 2 different kinds of music used in commercials: a) unknown producers who work 9-5 M-F and write television music for a living (and i'm not knocking these people; they are many musicians who work in the background and/or who have anonymous music-related dayjobs, john tejada, for example, had/(has?) a dayjob doing sample cds; personally, my dayjob is pding at the local campus/community radio station; the bills *do* have to be paid, anyway, i'm offtopic); they (the unknown producers) are often asked to *imitate* certain songs/sounds/etc and they do this because it is their job, and, b) situations such as this with atkins where a track such as atkins' is used in a commercial. i'd much rather hear, personally, b): atkins' track in a commercial with atkins getting paid and proper credit, than a) with a ford focus commercial where someone who paid to make a track *like* atkins'. and, regardless of how we feel about ford/cars/etc, i can speak from experience re: an artists' music being used in commercials: i'm no atkins (far from it), but my music has been used in radio ads, theatre, film, documentaries, etc, and it is extremely flattering (and even gratifying) to know someone wants to use *your* music (out of a myriad of choices) as the music bed, for whatever it is worth (and i'm not talking money here), instead of just some anonymous beat. tons of thought and money is put into what music gets used in a commercial for a huge company like ford. heck, mills said his biggest goal is to do soundtracks and he did the metropolis soundtrack on his own (initially) because he just *had to* do that kind of thing to satisfy himself. we shouldn't take this for granted (artists we respect doing/having their music used in commercials and/or doing soundtracks) and we should feel proud that juan atkins' music is used in this commercial and not a moby or fatboy slim or unknown. not wanting to drag this out, just wanted to add my perspective. pardon the rambling, i haven't been to bad yet (due to my dayjob) andrew don't forget about the fundraising auction on http://techno.ca/cognition; duke :) np minnie ripperton--adventures in paradise (1974/epic) not her best album -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix 3rd annual Fundraising Auction for CKDU is now underway: http://techno.ca/cognition auction ends Wednesday November 29 at 12noon AST
Re: [313] Video Vinyl
Very interesting concept + makes it easier to rewind or fast forward. Also, if this is Mr. Hamilton - Welcome back... it's been a while. Cheers, Gerald Dustin wrote: One of my favorite news-sites ( http://slashdot.org ) had listed a site called http://www.vinylvideo.com/ -- looks like a software setup that takes the input from records and makes 'video' from it...I didnt read all of it, but just wanted to sent the URL along... -Dustin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos?
ok i havent been totally following this thread, is the music cheesy like some said or not? i just read that detroit news article on rolando and it said the ad features no ufos. huh? could there be 313 members possibly that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? Saw the Ford ad last night on fox and it is pretty cool. It seems to be running pretty consistantly during prime time for those wanting to see it here in the states. I checked out the site televisioncommercials.com to see if they added it yet to their site. Maybe if a few more people sent them an email it might get added faster. daveNYC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Fw: (tech-house) ford focus commercial
no, it was sven vaeth inventing techno, ofcourse. yes.yes. he`s THE MAN!!! hahaha. .
Re: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos?
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, et machina wrote: said the ad features no ufos. huh? could there be 313 members possibly that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? educate me: i never heard there was remix? i only know the version that is on Retro Techno/Detroit Definitive cd. and i've always thought it's the original version since it's the only record i've seen that track. i missed the 12 as i didn't know that my friend who was selling bunch of 12 away didn't tell me he had it and he sold it to somebody else. well you can't have everything can't you? sakke -- working at http://www.teraflops.com/ website at http://www.vip.fi/~sakke/
RE: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos?
that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? BTW - on what comp can I find the original version ?(please don't hit me on the head, one year ago I had never heard the name of Juan Atkins) Gwendal
Re: RE: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos?
It's not the original that was released 15 years ago, it's sort of a 'modernized edit'. The vocals are left out. I have the original 12 on metroplex from way back and to my knowledge there have not been any remix's put to vinyl. If you would like a good commentary on the ad, read sean deasons previous postings. daveNYC Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? BTW - on what comp can I find the original version ?(please don't hit me on the head, one year ago I had never heard the name of Juan Atkins) Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [313] Re: [idm] Re: what the
And not for me to drag this out any further. I started this thread. Ford isn't exploiting Juan in the sense of not paying him. I'm sure he'll be paid handsomely. Techno will survive Ford. Ford commercial aside, there are two cultures in the US -- Mass consumer culture -- designed and manufactured to serve the financial needs of stockholders, and the real culture and commerce that arises from human interactions. Contrast a Walmart and a Sunday Flea Market and you'll see the distinction I'm making. I believe art is impossible in mass consumer culture. The goals of consumer culture and art are incompatible. Art seeks to communicate the unique and idiosyncratic, and consumer culture seeks to standardize and enforce the status quo. This doesn't mean that musicians can't make good art and still get paid. A lot of money comes out of underground dance music, and some people are getting, if not rich, at least comfortable from it. But the whole decentralized DIY ethic of dance music exists almost entirely outside the major label system. The worldwide network of independent distributors, labels, specialty vinyl record shops, clubs, etc. If Ford, or whomever, decides to license tracks, I do not blame people for taking the money. Who knows, maybe the Focus commercial will spur a few people to actually seek out Juan's music. THAT'S FINE BY ME. What bothers me is the feeling that they're appropriating something for commercial reasons, with no concern for the cultural context and artistic history involved. I feel the same way about acts like Deep Forest, who have made huge bank by exploiting the music of Pygmies. kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jump.to/cornwarning -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes
Re: RE: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos?
There is a remixed version on RS' Classics compilation. It has a woeful hard core thing going on that certainly isn't on the original. Jonny. It's not the original that was released 15 years ago, it's sort of a 'modernized edit'. The vocals are left out. I have the original 12 on metroplex from way back and to my knowledge there have not been any remix's put to vinyl. If you would like a good commentary on the ad, read sean deasons previous postings. daveNYC Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? BTW - on what comp can I find the original version ?(please don't hit me on the head, one year ago I had never heard the name of Juan Atkins) Gwendal
no ufo's on a compilation
Gwendal wrote: BTW - on what compilation can i find the original version? there's a version on juan atkins wax tracks the unmixed double (or triple) album featuring tracks from the mix he did for wax trax. other tracks on that compitation: sharivari/a number of names, m7/maurizio, belizbeha/belizbeha(clear horizons mix), nude photo/rhythim is rhythim, and many others. you can also try to see if you can order the original (repress), i had ordered it about a year and a half, or two years ago at a recordshop, and received it last friday. so maybe metroplex repressed it in case of growing demand in the near future due to the commercial. otherwise you can always go for metroplex-002 with No-UFO's (D-MIX) on it. this shouldn't be too hard to find, Rushhour (in amsterdam) had a whole lot of these laying around a couple of weeks ago. hope this helps, jurren _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Focus Commercial
i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:27:48 -0500 Saw the Ford ad last night on fox and it is pretty cool. It seems to be running pretty consistantly during prime time for those wanting to see it here in the states. I checked out the site televisioncommercials.com to see if they added it yet to their site. Maybe if a few more people sent them an email it might get added faster. daveNYC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Focus Commercial
I think it's supposed to be a broader interpretation for those outside Detroit or fans of the music -- think shorthand for detroit technology. Somewhat of a nebulous headline, but I've read a lot worse. -d i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:27:48 -0500 Saw the Ford ad last night on fox and it is pretty cool. It seems to be running pretty consistantly during prime time for those wanting to see it here in the states. I checked out the site televisioncommercials.com to see if they added it yet to their site. Maybe if a few more people sent them an email it might get added faster. daveNYC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
i am sure that if ford gets an overwhelming response to the commercial and request to have the video put on their web page so that people can download it then maybe it will be put on...but everyone needs to participate jeff -Original Message- From: FRED MCMURRY [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:08 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Finally, I saw the commercial spot last night on VH1 and checked the Ford Motor company site today (www.ford.com) checking for two things: a Quicktime video of the commercial (most companies will have this on their pages after airing a new broadcast advert) and some kind of acknowledgement of the track being used (like VW did with Nick Drake's Pink Moon). I found neither. While I thought the tv spot was good and the music editing was very good, I was really disappointed not to see anything about either the music or the ad on Ford's website...did anyone else check their website for these things? On the Focus 247 page there is a catagory for music (it's kind of a lifestyle section to go with the car). What's on it? Friggin' Garth Brooks! Obviously, the commercial doesn't signal a huge revolutionary change in direction for Ford. It's a tv spot that will air for a while then disappear quietly. That's it...then it's back to trainspotting and next gigs here on 313. So I don't think we should get our undies in a bunch and wonder if this means the end of good techno and the corporate mind control machine taking over. For the time we should be happy that Mr. Atkins is gettin' some green. Fred From: JL Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:13:12 -0500 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins In a message dated 11/13/00 12:15:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was watching fox too. The commercial's end disturbed me a bit: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS (or whatever) Damn, Kent, why can't you just be glad that Ford is using Juan's music in a MAJOR commercial, and hopefully paying him accordingly ??? That kind of mass recognition is long past due for the Godfather of Techno. And isn't it the POINT that you're gratified by knowing it's Juan's track underneath the commercial and the masses don't ? Would you be more happy if they were using a Crystal Method or Fatboy Slim or Moby track like they do everything else? Dang, let the man have his due, for God's sakes. I also saw this commercial last night and the subsequent list discussion today. It seems to me that Ford was saying two things... An acknowledgement of the forward thinking and innovative aspect related to Detroit Techno - the music AND Ford's own attempt to impress that they're trying to innovate with their offerings (in particular the Focus) with their own Detroit Techno(logy) within the automotive realm. The music isn't doesn't have sole possession of the term Detroit Techno(logy) seeing as cars have been built there for the longest time.. think of it this way too.. Before the electronics and computer companies of Silicon Valley identified that region as a technological center in the US Detroit with its automotive industry was able to say that long before this current age I think they were giving props to both the music and their own products... in some way... I guess I think too much, and hope for the best.. P.S. - I agree with glyph's statement wholeheartedly too.. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- amiga lives! -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [313] Focus Commercial
In a message dated 11/15/00 12:49:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike I think the message is this: Detroit Techno signifies Detroit Technology and also the music combined with the idea of that futuristic/dance oriented lifestlyle all rolled up in a car. Alan told me that he was surprised they didn't use Cosmic Cars instead. G l y p h.
Re: [313] Re: [idm] Re: what the
I believe art is impossible in mass consumer culture. The goals of consumer culture and art are incompatible. Art seeks to communicate the unique and idiosyncratic, and consumer culture seeks to standardize and enforce the status quo. that's a tidy oversimplification. art, in an idealized sense, is difficult to combine with consumer/pop culture but certainly not impossible. in fact i find this a rather conservative, elitist argument of what art is.. reminiscent of adorno and horkheimer high culture blah blah. Art is in the eye of the beholder and i think that is about all that can be definitively said about it. in my book, the new pepsi can is art. maybe not particularly inspired or unique but these are subjective judgements. What bothers me is the feeling that they're appropriating something for commercial reasons, with no concern for the cultural context and artistic history involved. I feel the same way about acts like this is a valid concern, but i think there is some attention paid due to the fact that the slogan detroit techno is used. since they actually use no ufo's this is more than just commercial appropriation;the slogan is a double entendre that acknowledges the music. i think there is cultural respect here in that they purposefully chose no ufo's, all detroit, to accompany a recognizable detroit icon, ford. that's some history recognition right there. instead of paying phatdawg mcfly they're paying juan, and that is some very tangible respect in my book. if this was a revlon ad with some models showing off lipstick as they jam to no ufo's, i'd be more concerned. but i don't see any damage done.. Deep Forest, who have made huge bank by exploiting the music of Pygmies. im no deep forest fan but i think this is a harsh assessment, to label as exploitation, especially since there is some level of art involved. is it unfair to pygmies? and if so, because they use pygmy music period, or because they've made money? it gets complicated and very subjective -- how much of deep forest's sound is truly pygmy music, are the pygmy artists paid fairly and proportionately, etc? i think only pygmies can really answer. it's certainly not cut dry..commerce art and culture are in a constant tug of war that can be interpreted in infinite ways...only the victims can determine whether they are truly victims or not. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Focus Commercial
P.S. I also would like to add that out of all the cars they choose to do this commerical with, they chose the one called Focus...Focus on Detroit Techno (music), the Technology and the car. Great commerical, I think. G. In a message dated 11/15/00 1:30:39 PM, Glyph1001 writes: In a message dated 11/15/00 12:49:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike I think the message is this: Detroit Techno signifies Detroit Technology and also the music combined with the idea of that futuristic/dance oriented lifestlyle all rolled up in a car. Alan told me that he was surprised they didn't use Cosmic Cars instead. G l y p h.
Advent/Slater
Last minute info: The Advent live in Toronto, tonight, Weds. 15 with K. Glasgow, P. Walker etc. [EMAIL PROTECTED], 117 Peter. There's a VW ad--the rally one--that seems to use one of those raucous remixes of All Exhale, or another of Luke Slater's recent tracks. Sounds great, anyway. Completely manic. Or maybe it's a knockoff? Wes
Re: KDJ discography
Yes, the Soul City 12 is listed on the discog, under other releases. It is Soul Sounds #1 with Winter Breeze, Yesterdays, etc. etc. It's one of his best EPs (next to KDJ7, KDJ24 and KDJ25). Kenny's first EP was the Moody Mann EP done as Kenny Dixon Jr. featuring Norma Jean Bell that came out on New Jersey's Grassroots records, a label I have never heard of aside from this release (which is GR005). This, as far as I'm concerned, is about the rarest Detroit EP I've ever heard of. His next EP was the Moody Traxx EP on KDJ. That's KDJ1. KDJ1 and KDJ2 are records I've never seen for sale/trade. It's likely that I'll live another fifty years and go to my grave not hearing those at the rate of success I've had trying to find copies. I've heard there will be another round of KDJ repressings. Anyone who knows him, please feel free to pass along these suggestions: 1) No more one-sided repressings. 2) Do the pressings with the original tracks. 3) Repress the records that haven't ever been repressed (KDJ1, 2, and 9 especially). 4) Put some of the white label only tracks (KDJ19, 23, and 28 whites) on the repressings. 5) Repress the damn first Three Chairs already. BTW, anybody out there who wants to drop their KDJ28 white label on me, let me know. I'll trade just about anything in my non-KDJ/Theo collection. Matt
Re: [313] Focus Commercial
I think you're right about that interpretation Dan. It's only if you have prior knowledge of the tune and it's origins that you understand the double meaning of Detroit Techno Ford Focus. What can be said is that someone at the ad agency is a techno fan. It's usually someone within the ad agency scouting out potential music sourcesnot within the company being advertised. The Ford spot might be a different case, but from my experience in the ad business it works this way. Someone in the ad agency's creative department has a big smile on their face right now because they are a techno fan and they got to finally do what they wanted to...express their love for techno. Fred From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:38:16 -0500 I think it's supposed to be a broader interpretation for those outside Detroit or fans of the music -- think shorthand for detroit technology. Somewhat of a nebulous headline, but I've read a lot worse. -d i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:27:48 -0500 Saw the Ford ad last night on fox and it is pretty cool. It seems to be running pretty consistantly during prime time for those wanting to see it here in the states. I checked out the site televisioncommercials.com to see if they added it yet to their site. Maybe if a few more people sent them an email it might get added faster. daveNYC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: RE: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos?
I have a vinyl version of an old network comp (retrotechno: detroit emotions electric) which includes a very strange remix of no ufos. way way too much 808 through the unsequenced delay box on that one. :) -e On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:18:18AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not the original that was released 15 years ago, it's sort of a 'modernized edit'. The vocals are left out. I have the original 12 on metroplex from way back and to my knowledge there have not been any remix's put to vinyl. If you would like a good commentary on the ad, read sean deasons previous postings. daveNYC Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? BTW - on what comp can I find the original version ?(please don't hit me on the head, one year ago I had never heard the name of Juan Atkins) Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Advent/Slater
Last minute info: The Advent live in Toronto, tonight, Weds. 15 with K. Glasgow, P. Walker etc. [EMAIL PROTECTED], 117 Peter. There's a VW ad--the rally one--that seems to use one of those raucous remixes of All Exhale, or another of Luke Slater's recent tracks. Sounds great, anyway. Completely manic. Or maybe it's a knockoff? Wes
Re: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos?
i think you can still get the metroplex 12 repress at hardwax.de Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go - Original Message - From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos? . i missed the 12 as i didn't know that my friend who was selling bunch of 12 away didn't tell me he had it and he sold it to somebody else. well you can't have everything can't you? sakke
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re: jaguar mixes, remixes of mixes, etc.. when will they end?! 2.5 yrs later and still counting.. time for something new j
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