Re: [313] New Tejada album!!!

2002-05-17 Thread Jason Kessler
The new Polar/Tejaja 12" is off the proverbial meat rack!

-J

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>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Weinberg)
>> John Tejada - Daydreams in cold weather / Plug Research LP
> 
>  recommended release! This album is a very very good follow up to his album
> on De:focus.Nice soulful electronica, hip hop, downbeat, call it what
> you want music. Also featured on this masterpiece a new track with the
> Divine Styler. >
> 
> It's a great downtempo album, it's a essential release!!
> John Tejada should have another full length out in a few weeks on Immigrant
> Records.  I love what I've heard from it!
> 
>  attention in the press??? Honestly there are not much articles or interviews
> here in germany about/with him... What's the situation in other countries? >
> 
> He definitely deserves more press, considering all the great releases he's
> put out.
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Re: [313] dj bone mix track id

2002-05-17 Thread ryan burns


sounds like dj rush.

ryan



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hi all,

ok i need a track id...it's on this mix at 3:13 (i kid you not)

www.klubradio.de and the mix you want is the mighty dj bone (seeing him in
liverpool(voodoo) tonite, to say i'm looking forward to this is an
understatement)

the male vocal says (over an acidic track)

'believe in me, i am the future, i am the music, all you have to do is
believe in me, i can make you move, i can make you dance , i can make you
shake, i'm coming to get ya'


ok one of you should be able to get it from that :)

many thanks



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[313] See Rob Spin

2002-05-17 Thread Phonopsia
This just in! I may have to rethink the Sound Signature party. What a
horrible decision to have to make, both undoubtedly ending in bliss. :) This
is one of the most impressive lineups (seven deep) I've ever seen.

Tristan
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Downtown Detroit

Featuring special performances by:

CARL CRAIG (DJ set)
HERBERT as RADIO BOY (Live ) PLUS BONUS DJ Set
SHAKE (DJ Set)
MARK from RHYTHM & SOUND (Berlin, DJ Set)
Mike "AGENT X" Clark  (DJ Set)
TODD SINES + NATACHA LABELLE (Live)
performing their new Planet E release  "Skin"
IBEX (DJ Set)
ROB THEAKSTON (DJ Set)

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Re: [313] playlist WNUR Chicago - 10 May 2002

2002-05-17 Thread Phonopsia
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> > Is this available online anywhere? I'd love to hear this mix...
>
> Thanks for your interest, as of now WNUR only netcasts them in realtime
(during showtime).  I will talk to them about the ability to create
archives.  Also the general station website is kind of difficult, I'll have
to create a site just for this show I think... which I alternate every other
week with Dr. Siska.  My old site has an archive (I know the 2000 shows say
"archives coming soon" , but if you scroll way down the page to the 199
shows) they are available in in RealAudio. http://www.macqueen.com/radio --
this was when I had the show on Mondays.  I've broadened the format a bit
since then but there's still some fun stuff there.
>

I'd highly recommend doing this. A great schooling in all things italo, and
more.

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[313] delsin going east

2002-05-17 Thread marsel


for all our german friends?!
delsin representives..  .

sat 18.05.
tangofabrik/leipzig
(spinnereistr.7)

dj's:
peel seamus
newworldaquarium
drehmoment & edd

||

sun 19.05.
bahnhof plauen/dresden
(altplauen 20)

dj's:
peel seamus
newworldaquarium
daniel wang


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Re: [313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread ollie
These studios are nothing:

check:
http://www.markglinsky.com/MsgStudio.html

wtf

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[313] Ghostly International : Idol Tryouts

2002-05-17 Thread Rob

Friday May 24th, 2002
Detroit, Michigan

Idol Tryouts:
The Ghostly International 2002 Tour Kick-Off

Info @ http://www.ghostly.com/itry




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Re: [313] Detroit Tonight

2002-05-17 Thread :P
I see that portal is open friday and saturdays, but I cant tell that
anything is really going on there.

what gives?


the search continues,

-Joe


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> hmmm I'll consider it.  :)  what else is up in D tonight?
>
> motor seems silly tonight... where is lush?
>
> need.  techno.
>
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> >   If anybody is interested, I will be spinning with Eric Hinchman and
> Jarred
> > Sykes(Percussionist for Norma Jean Bell) at Lush in Hamtramck tonight.
It
> > is really low key and a lot of fun.
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Re: [313] Detroit Tonight

2002-05-17 Thread :P
hmmm I'll consider it.  :)  what else is up in D tonight?

motor seems silly tonight... where is lush?

need.  techno.

-Joe


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> john arnold
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[313] Hebert - Secondhand Sounds

2002-05-17 Thread Mediadrome
Are there any articles or reviews that go into what Hebert did  on the remix 
and additional production on Secondhand Sounds? 

mediadrome

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[313] Detroit Tonight

2002-05-17 Thread john arnold

Hello List,
 If anybody is interested, I will be spinning with Eric Hinchman and Jarred 
Sykes(Percussionist for Norma Jean Bell) at Lush in Hamtramck tonight.  It 
is really low key and a lot of fun.

john arnold

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[313] new reviews

2002-05-17 Thread Dan Sicko

finally got some newer stuff up there.  :)

www.techno-rebels.com

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RE: [313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread Ja'Maul Redmond
he definitely has gear I would love to have,, but there is a belief that the
best creativity and design comes from having limitations. 

I guess this guy doesn't believe in that. :)

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http://acapella.harmony-central.com/Forum7/HTML/009209.html

this guy has the most ridiculous studio I have ever seen.

mt



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RE: Re[2]: [313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread Jones, George
Sounds like it's time for an Audigy or SBLive w/Emu APS drivers.

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Friday, May 17, 2002, 12:16:37 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came:

P> ASIO support for a sb 128: not happening
P> twist a knob and wait 200ms for the CC change?  sure

I tend to do my knob tweaking in Orion's event channels instead of touching
the actual . . . er, virtual knobs.  But yeah, latency can be an issue.
Sometimes its faster to ping a Quake server in Alaska than it is to ping my
own soundcard :)

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[313] dont take more

2002-05-17 Thread D.E
yeah, he´s good at autocad or whatever he uses.

d

Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 14:44:07 -0400
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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Subject: Fwd: too much gear
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http://acapella.harmony-central.com/Forum7/HTML/009209.html

this guy has the most ridiculous studio I have ever seen.

mt

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[313] dj bone mix track id

2002-05-17 Thread D.E
dj rush ´believe in me´ outta H.o.R

d



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From: robin pinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dj bone mix track id
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

hi all,

ok i need a track id...it's on this mix at 3:13 (i kid you not)

www.klubradio.de and the mix you want is the mighty dj bone (seeing him in
liverpool(voodoo) tonite, to say i'm looking forward to this is an
understatement)

the male vocal says (over an acidic track)

'believe in me, i am the future, i am the music, all you have to do is
believe in me, i can make you move, i can make you dance , i can make you
shake, i'm coming to get ya'

ok one of you should be able to get it from that :)

many thanks

robin...


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Re[2]: [313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince
Friday, May 17, 2002, 12:16:37 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came:

P> ASIO support for a sb 128: not happening
P> twist a knob and wait 200ms for the CC change?  sure

I tend to do my knob tweaking in Orion's event channels instead of
touching the actual . . . er, virtual knobs.  But yeah, latency can be
an issue.  Sometimes its faster to ping a Quake server in Alaska than
it is to ping my own soundcard :)

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[313] [EVT][Portland] Scion and Tikiman - Tonight , May 17, 2002

2002-05-17 Thread David Bate
Hello all,

 I hadn't seen anyone mention this on the list.  Looks like 
we get a nice treat of some good music , before we all fly out for the 
DEMF.


For those in Portland, OR or Seattle, if you are fans of the 
sounds of the Basic Channel/Chain Reaction/Rhythm and Sound/Burial Mix
crew,  please check out:

Tikiman & Scion - Burial Mix/Chain Reaction - Berlin
-- ragga MC Tikiman teams up with minimal/downtempo dub
techno mainstays Scion (Germany)

CNSE  (live) - OMCO Portland
-- Portland representing Portland's own brand of dubworthy techno,
in a Klang or Perlon sort of vein! CNSE has just appeared with a 12" on
Starbass (Portland) and has several more 12"s forthcoming.

Bliss  (djing) - Renegade Rhythms - Portland
-- exploring the inner dimensions of sounds.


Friday, May 17th at the Blackbird (www.theblackbird.org), $7, 21+,
3728  NE Sandy Blvd  503-282-9949
hosted by Outward Music Company (www.outwardmusic.com)

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Re: [313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread :P
ASIO support for a sb 128: not happening
twist a knob and wait 200ms for the CC change?  sure

:P

-Joe



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> MT> http://acapella.harmony-central.com/Forum7/HTML/009209.html
> 
> MT> this guy has the most ridiculous studio I have ever seen.
> 
> SoundBlaster 128: $20
> Stereo WAV writer for Impulse Tracker: $30
> Orion Pro: $99
> Being able to shrug your shoulders at a mountain of gear:
> 
> priceless.
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Re: [313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread Data General
plus the first guy has a dog.



ben



On Fri, 17 May 2002, Eric Scuccimarra wrote:

> Not sure about this one... This one looks like less stuff crammed into more
> space. I think that the first guy actually has a lot more.
>
> At 03:06 PM 5/17/2002 -0400, :P wrote:
> >nope, Amanda has him completely beat
> >
> >http://www.cikira.com/GearPile.html
> >
> >now that I think about it, I should thin my studio out too :)
> >
> >-Joe
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Re: [313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
im only jealous of: 

Oberheim Matrix 12
ARP 2600
Moog MiniMoog
Roland Jupiter 8
Sequential Cirvuits Prophet 5 rev. 2
Moog MemoryMoog Linntronics Advanced MemoryMoog
Roland SVC-350 Vocoder

and for that chick's studio, i really an only jealous of the Xpander

they use way too much new gear for my taste : P 

tom

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Re: [313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread :P
nice gleeman pentaphonic

damn...
-Joe


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Re: [313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince
MT> http://acapella.harmony-central.com/Forum7/HTML/009209.html

MT> this guy has the most ridiculous studio I have ever seen.

SoundBlaster 128: $20
Stereo WAV writer for Impulse Tracker: $30
Orion Pro: $99
Being able to shrug your shoulders at a mountain of gear:

priceless.

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Re: [313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
Not sure about this one... This one looks like less stuff crammed into more 
space. I think that the first guy actually has a lot more.


At 03:06 PM 5/17/2002 -0400, :P wrote:

nope, Amanda has him completely beat

http://www.cikira.com/GearPile.html

now that I think about it, I should thin my studio out too :)

-Joe



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Re: [313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread :P
nope, Amanda has him completely beat

http://www.cikira.com/GearPile.html

now that I think about it, I should thin my studio out too :)

-Joe



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[313] Fwd: too much gear

2002-05-17 Thread Mike Taylor

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/Forum7/HTML/009209.html

this guy has the most ridiculous studio I have ever seen.

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[313] test again

2002-05-17 Thread David Bate
One more test .please ignore.. thx

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Re: [313] Mutek Res

2002-05-17 Thread yussel
Motreal is like Europe in that there's tons of quaint little hotels that
are cheap scattered throughout the city.

i went there to see Innerzone Orchestra at their Jazz Festival a few years
back. We just got off the plane, found the phone terminal with all the
hotels and got one that day (on the eve of their biggest music fest.)





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> Hey,
>   Since everyone's on the topic of accomodation, and since I'm NOT going 
> to
> demf,anyone got tips on good accom inthe Montreal Area?  I'm looking
> for a couple of nights. at the end of May.
>
> greg
> kamloops, bc
>
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RE: [313] playlist WNUR Chicago - 10 May 2002

2002-05-17 Thread Matthew MacQueen
> Is this available online anywhere? I'd love to hear this mix...

Thanks for your interest, as of now WNUR only netcasts them in realtime (during 
showtime).  I will talk to them about the ability to create archives.  Also the 
general station website is kind of difficult, I'll have to create a site just 
for this show I think... which I alternate every other week with Dr. Siska.  My 
old site has an archive (I know the 2000 shows say "archives coming soon" , but 
if you scroll way down the page to the 199 shows) they are available in in 
RealAudio. http://www.macqueen.com/radio -- this was when I had the show on 
Mondays.  I've broadened the format a bit since then but there's still some fun 
stuff there.

Peace,
Matt MacQueen

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At 12:28 PM 5/17/2002 -0400, glyph1001 wrote:
>Wow, some nice italo disco!
>
>g.
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Re: [313] playlist WNUR Chicago - 10 May 2002

2002-05-17 Thread Eric Scuccimarra

Is this available online anywhere? I'd love to hear this mix...

At 12:28 PM 5/17/2002 -0400, glyph1001 wrote:

Wow, some nice italo disco!

g.

Matthew MacQueen wrote:


Clinically Inclined
10 May 2002
11 pm - 1 am CST
www.wnur.org / 89.3 fm in Chicago


Selector: M. MacQueen

Wood, Brass & Steel - Funk-a-nova (bootleg '76)
Klein & MBO - More Dirty Talk (Ram's Horn '85)
Taffy - I Love My Radio [USA mix] (Emergency '86)
Claudio Simonetti - College [dub version] (Jumbo, '84)
My Mine - Hypnotic Tango - Danica '85)
ABC - How to Be A Zillionaire [Wall Street 12" mix] (Mercury '84)
Sheila E - The Glamorous Life - The Glamorous Life (WB, '84)
Section 25 - Looking From A Hilltop (Factory '84)
New Order - Everything's Gone Green (Factory '81)
Portion Control - The Great Divide (Razormaid '85)
Afrika Bambaataa - Bambaataa's Theme [Assault on Precinct 13] (Tommy Boy, 
1986)

Scape One - Utopian Etude - Fizzy Soda EP (Emoticon)
Total Science - Sugar Sweet (Head 2 Toe)
Double Helix - D&A - Funxtiles EP (Rush Hour)
Deepart - Select Window - Collage #1 (Rush Hour)
Dimension 5 - Dark City - Dark City (Delsin)
Sympletic - Space 4-2 (Ifach)
The Orb - Blue Room [remix] (Big Life)
Plaid - Booc - Booc (Warp)
Schooly D - Gucci Time (bootleg, '8?)
West Street Mob - Breakdance: Electric Boogie (Sugar Hill '83)


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Re: [313] playlist WNUR Chicago - 10 May 2002

2002-05-17 Thread glyph1001

Wow, some nice italo disco!

g.

Matthew MacQueen wrote:


Clinically Inclined
10 May 2002
11 pm - 1 am CST
www.wnur.org / 89.3 fm in Chicago


Selector: M. MacQueen

Wood, Brass & Steel - Funk-a-nova (bootleg '76)
Klein & MBO - More Dirty Talk (Ram's Horn '85)
Taffy - I Love My Radio [USA mix] (Emergency '86)
Claudio Simonetti - College [dub version] (Jumbo, '84)
My Mine - Hypnotic Tango - Danica '85)
ABC - How to Be A Zillionaire [Wall Street 12" mix] (Mercury '84)
Sheila E - The Glamorous Life - The Glamorous Life (WB, '84)
Section 25 - Looking From A Hilltop (Factory '84)
New Order - Everything's Gone Green (Factory '81)
Portion Control - The Great Divide (Razormaid '85)
Afrika Bambaataa - Bambaataa's Theme [Assault on Precinct 13] (Tommy Boy, 1986)  
Scape One - Utopian Etude - Fizzy Soda EP (Emoticon)

Total Science - Sugar Sweet (Head 2 Toe)
Double Helix - D&A - Funxtiles EP (Rush Hour)
Deepart - Select Window - Collage #1 (Rush Hour)
Dimension 5 - Dark City - Dark City (Delsin)
Sympletic - Space 4-2 (Ifach)
The Orb - Blue Room [remix] (Big Life)
Plaid - Booc - Booc (Warp)
Schooly D - Gucci Time (bootleg, '8?)
West Street Mob - Breakdance: Electric Boogie (Sugar Hill '83)


peace

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[313] dj dijital prototype mix 2

2002-05-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[313] Hawtin/Magda Afterhours NYC

2002-05-17 Thread Grammenos, Peter

Tonight from 2-7am @ 59 Canal St. [ 2nd Floor , ring the buzzer ]

Richie Hawtin - http://m-nus.com/
Magda  
Miss Dinky

For those of you that went to Plant Bar last night and Drinkland on Tuesday
night, you know
you shouldn't miss out on this. Hope to see some of you there!

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Re: [313] Mutek Res

2002-05-17 Thread Kim B

www.expedia.ca

Click on hotels section and enter the city and dates of stay.  Expedia will 
bring up all available hotels/motels and list the prices.


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[313] Nu Groove

2002-05-17 Thread Minto George

Kinda late on this thread...been busy with work but I
can't agree more with ya on this Stewart. Nu Groove
was among my favorite labels at that time
period...people have forgotten or never heard of
people like Ronald and Reggie Burrell...anyone
remember Metro!? NY Housing Authority!? oh man that
was the best chit! Also L.B. Bad and Mark Wilson of
Open House... I'd love to hear more people playing
these gems out and taking chances with older records.
I never go out these days cause everyone wants to play
the new "hot" "floor burners" instead of being
adventurous and playing a mix of all things great new
and old. Well I hope to be surprised at DEMF this
year...excited to see who is gonna impress me with an
outstanding mix.

minto
dL music

http://downlowmusic.org


>I agree, Some were a bit hit and miss, but 12's >like
'Searching' by 33 
>and a third queen, Some of the early Lenny Dee and
>Frankie Bones stuff, 
>How and Little, Joey Beltram's 'Forgotten Moments'.
>For me this was 
>possibly the greatest era in electronic dance music,
>the boundaries 
>between house, techno, funk and soul were less
>defined and DJs played it all. 
>People like the now drum and bass god Grooverider
>would drop a track 
>like Technarchy into a Masters at Work Latin house
>workout and then out 
>into an early 4 Hero breakbeat cut. Anything went and
>labels like Nu 
>Groove kinda summed up that spirit nicely for me.



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[313] KIRSON.BORGHI.NOSTRANT::LIVE::TONIGHT

2002-05-17 Thread matt borghi
KIRSON.BORGHI.NOSTRANT will be doing a performance tonight in Ypsilant, MI
at The Elbow Room. They'll be playing with a variety of other great acts
including: Defender (from Chicago ala Neu! or Trans Am), as well as The
Delta Waves (space rock) The Rattling Wall Collective (experimental
ensemble), goat (stygian war noise via indianapolis), and Caleb Grayson
(quaker-cage).

For more info check out: http://www.mattborghi.com/performance.htm You can
find a mapquest link there, and other information about the venue.

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RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip

2002-05-17 Thread Williams, Howard
spot on matt

just wondering though: when i have  seen Hood he hasn't done *much* more
than blend the recs together, no particular tricks etc (loved his set) - is
he capable of more than this, or rather what do you feel it is about his
mixing (rather than tune selection) that would set him apart from other
'blenders'? 

personally i am very much into both styles 

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> To:   313@hyperreal.org
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> Subject:  RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
...
>  Rob Hood and Jay Denham are =
>less tricky than Claude, but without a doubt their DJ styles also adds =
>trenemdous soul and funk beyond what the records themselves were 'born =
>with'.  IMHO, far too many DJs select a set by what is easy to mix, not =
...

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[313] Theo "First Floor"

2002-05-17 Thread fab
Hi,
i recently picked up Theo Parrish "First Floor" on Peacefrog (for 7.50
euros!!).
The first track, First Foor Metaphor, ends with a locked groove while all
the other tracks don't. Is this intentional or is it a mis-press?

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Re: [313] New Tejada album!!!

2002-05-17 Thread Moe Fuzz

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Weinberg)
John Tejada - Daydreams in cold weather / Plug Research LP


recommended release! This album is a very very good follow up to his album 
on De:focus.Nice soulful electronica, hip hop, downbeat, call it what 
you want music. Also featured on this masterpiece a new track with the 
Divine Styler. >


It's a great downtempo album, it's a essential release!!
John Tejada should have another full length out in a few weeks on Immigrant 
Records.  I love what I've heard from it!


attention in the press??? Honestly there are not much articles or interviews 
here in germany about/with him... What's the situation in other countries? >


He definitely deserves more press, considering all the great releases he's 
put out.





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[313] dj bone mix track id

2002-05-17 Thread robin pinning
hi all,

ok i need a track id...it's on this mix at 3:13 (i kid you not)

www.klubradio.de and the mix you want is the mighty dj bone (seeing him in
liverpool(voodoo) tonite, to say i'm looking forward to this is an
understatement)

the male vocal says (over an acidic track)

'believe in me, i am the future, i am the music, all you have to do is
believe in me, i can make you move, i can make you dance , i can make you
shake, i'm coming to get ya'


ok one of you should be able to get it from that :)

many thanks



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RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip

2002-05-17 Thread Odeluga, Ken
>it is sad to see that the some of the surviving members of these innovators
>are now playing dj sets that barely cross a couple of genres, in a boring
>"smooth mixng" style.

That is so on the mark. Anyone who heard (fill in with any lauded techno
favourite) even as late as the mid-'90's will remember how sheer 'riffing' a
good techno set could be. The pressure of the advent of late-'90s tribal
techno - which I embraced at the time I admit (but for the sake of variety
not for the sake of *exclusivity*!) meant almost everyone soon succumbed.

Luckily it seems nearly everyone I speak to is now heartily sick of that
style and the monotonous mixing that tends to go with it and already people
are pushing the boundaries ... I can't wait to see Aphex at Lost he has been
decrying flat mixing (& exclusive 4/4 sets) for years.

My 'most funky dj' at the moment?: DJ Shufflemaster (aka Tatsuya Kanamori:

http://www.discogs.com/artist/DJ_Shufflemaster

k


>-Original Message-
>From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:45 AM
>To: Matthew MacQueen; 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
>
>
>
>I couldn't agree with Matt more.
>
>as i listen to my old wizard, hotmix 5, ron hardy, derrick may mixes it is
>difficult to overlook the fact that their innovative status and
>their unique
>sound came from their style of mixing a diversity of often elusive records
>in  a creative way.
>
>it is sad to see that the some of the surviving members of these innovators
>are now playing dj sets that barely cross a couple of genres, in a boring
>"smooth mixng" style.
>
>perhaps this a result of the commercialsim of the music; forcing
>djs to play
>sets that are perhaps easier to swallow for the musically shallow minded
>consuming majority..who knows; it's weird that some djs have
>left behind
>the skills which made them popular in the first place.
>
>claude young is an example of someone that is not afraid to cross
>genres and
>to try virtually everything on the decks. everytime i've seen him here in
>sydney.he plays with doubles of every record, he hardly lets a bar pass
>without doing some sort of beat juggling or scratching (using virtually
>every appendage he has). he f***cks up a small portion of the time but he
>always walks away saturated with sweat. The man earns his money.
>
>sometimes it seems the art of djing within the house/techno community does
>not assume skill and creativity as a barrier to entry.
>
>on 17/5/02 10:09 AM, Matthew MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>> I'd still be interested in other theories as to why a culture
>>> of skilled, performing DJs is strong in the US and not so
>>> strong in Europe - I know  mine is pretty flawed, but in
>>> the absence of alternatives (other than "euro-faggots suck" :)
>>> I'm generally confused as to why it is the way it is.
>>> Although I guess another theory could be explained in only
>>> two words - "hip hop"...
>>
>> and 'battles', yeah.
>>
>> I've been following this thread with a lot of interest and
>actually trying to
>> put some thoughts toward an explanation.  Bear with me
>>
>> Contributing factors from a roots perspective are (as far as
>Detroit jocks go)
>> when you grow up listing to the Wizard 'quick mix' style on the
>radio, you
>> benchmark that as quality skills, something as a kid you think
>in your head
>> "now that is what a stellar DJ does."  Or booty jocks, etc. it's
>part of what
>> you hear on the radio or in your environment, and influences
>you, as obviously
>> a lot of that (even Mills) influenced and by pop dance of the
>80s of which
>> hip-hop and Mojo's eclecticism is a big part.  A whole
>generation of people in
>> Detroit who heard 'hot-mix' and/or "quick mix" style shows and
>the Wizard on
>> the radio learn that skills = more than selections and more into
>the realm of
>> "what creatively/aggressively can you do with 2+ records"...
>including early
>> experimentations by Derrick May and even Richie with what could
>you do with a
>> Reel-to-reel machine during a radio show or DJ gig, etc.   Also what the
>> HotMix 5 were doing in Chicago was all about cramming as many hot 'street
>> tracks' into a show, and that also means stuff like doubles, drop-ins,
>> phasing, cut-n-scratch, EQs, 33/45 tricks, effects, etc.  And
>Yes I am talking
>> about with (proto) techno and house music, italo, etc.
>>
>> I'm with the camp who would rather see someone try and fail at
>something more
>> 'reaching' and funky and experimenting with really CREATING more
>than the sum
>> of an intro and an outtro of 2 records that flow seamlessly
>together.  Yes
>> there is a time for that, but to me it's a lot easier and
>'safer' than really
>> trying to ask yourself as a DJ "how can I go beyond just these 2
>records, as
>> the artists intended them?"
>>
>> Esp. when you have records that are maybe hard as nails and 'straight'
>> techno.. you have to inject some funk into them with the way you
>play them in
>> a 

[313] Iridite 002

2002-05-17 Thread Kerr Graham
On behalf of JB.

Hi Everyone,
I'm having a few internet problems at the moment and can't post
to the
list directly but I just wanted to say thanks to John, Arne, Matt,
Sean and
Stewart for their kind words about Iridite and also to everyone who
replied
off-list- thanks again.  The record will be in the shops as of May
29-
enjoy!

Cheers

Jason Brunton
Iridite




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Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip

2002-05-17 Thread Rc

I couldn't agree with Matt more.
 
as i listen to my old wizard, hotmix 5, ron hardy, derrick may mixes it is
difficult to overlook the fact that their innovative status and their unique
sound came from their style of mixing a diversity of often elusive records
in  a creative way.

it is sad to see that the some of the surviving members of these innovators
are now playing dj sets that barely cross a couple of genres, in a boring
"smooth mixng" style.
 
perhaps this a result of the commercialsim of the music; forcing djs to play
sets that are perhaps easier to swallow for the musically shallow minded
consuming majority..who knows; it's weird that some djs have left behind
the skills which made them popular in the first place.
 
claude young is an example of someone that is not afraid to cross genres and
to try virtually everything on the decks. everytime i've seen him here in
sydney.he plays with doubles of every record, he hardly lets a bar pass
without doing some sort of beat juggling or scratching (using virtually
every appendage he has). he f***cks up a small portion of the time but he
always walks away saturated with sweat. The man earns his money.

sometimes it seems the art of djing within the house/techno community does
not assume skill and creativity as a barrier to entry.
 
on 17/5/02 10:09 AM, Matthew MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> I'd still be interested in other theories as to why a culture
>> of skilled, performing DJs is strong in the US and not so
>> strong in Europe - I know  mine is pretty flawed, but in
>> the absence of alternatives (other than "euro-faggots suck" :)
>> I'm generally confused as to why it is the way it is.
>> Although I guess another theory could be explained in only
>> two words - "hip hop"...
> 
> and 'battles', yeah.
> 
> I've been following this thread with a lot of interest and actually trying to
> put some thoughts toward an explanation.  Bear with me
> 
> Contributing factors from a roots perspective are (as far as Detroit jocks go)
> when you grow up listing to the Wizard 'quick mix' style on the radio, you
> benchmark that as quality skills, something as a kid you think in your head
> "now that is what a stellar DJ does."  Or booty jocks, etc. it's part of what
> you hear on the radio or in your environment, and influences you, as obviously
> a lot of that (even Mills) influenced and by pop dance of the 80s of which
> hip-hop and Mojo's eclecticism is a big part.  A whole generation of people in
> Detroit who heard 'hot-mix' and/or "quick mix" style shows and the Wizard on
> the radio learn that skills = more than selections and more into the realm of
> "what creatively/aggressively can you do with 2+ records"... including early
> experimentations by Derrick May and even Richie with what could you do with a
> Reel-to-reel machine during a radio show or DJ gig, etc.   Also what the
> HotMix 5 were doing in Chicago was all about cramming as many hot 'street
> tracks' into a show, and that also means stuff like doubles, drop-ins,
> phasing, cut-n-scratch, EQs, 33/45 tricks, effects, etc.  And Yes I am talking
> about with (proto) techno and house music, italo, etc.
> 
> I'm with the camp who would rather see someone try and fail at something more
> 'reaching' and funky and experimenting with really CREATING more than the sum
> of an intro and an outtro of 2 records that flow seamlessly together.  Yes
> there is a time for that, but to me it's a lot easier and 'safer' than really
> trying to ask yourself as a DJ "how can I go beyond just these 2 records, as
> the artists intended them?"
> 
> Esp. when you have records that are maybe hard as nails and 'straight'
> techno.. you have to inject some funk into them with the way you play them in
> a mix, because on their own, (just cleanly mixing one into the other) tends to
> be pretty funk-less, or at best just a tad boring or uninspired...  That is
> why to me I love hearing Claude Young, because what he plays tends to be
> harder than I'd buy/play, but the crazy funky stuff he does in the mix really
> ads that funk that's IMHO missing from some of the individual tracks
> themselves.  Rob Hood and Jay Denham are less tricky than Claude, but without
> a doubt their DJ styles also adds trenemdous soul and funk beyond what the
> records themselves were 'born with'.  IMHO, far too many DJs select a set by
> what is easy to mix, not by how great the tracks really are *on their own
> merit*.   
> 
> I guess to me the idea of just smoothly blending 2 great tracks is an average
> way to play, (the cost of entry to DJing, if you will) but what really set up
> you up as a creator / crowd mover became what you could do beyond that...
> either with experimental selections (cross-genres/years/styles!!) or more
> aggressiveness or experimentatin through other various techniques.
> 
> So - in summary? - there's new generations of DJs who never were really
> exposed to that as an archetypal kind of radio aggress

RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip

2002-05-17 Thread Gary_Girard

Yeah good point, Bone is brilliant at mixing! Charles Siegling too.  I'm
supposed to be going to Voodoo to catch him tonight with DJ Rush but
unfortunately can't make it now.



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RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip

2002-05-17 Thread Remco . Doorewaard

Heard DJ Bone last week dj live for the very first time and was very
impressed I must say! Not as much tricks as Claude Young, but 3 decks,
effects, it was great!


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RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip

2002-05-17 Thread Gary_Girard

Esp. when you have records that are maybe hard as nails and 'straight'
techno.. you have to inject some funk into them with the way you play them
in a mix, because on their own, (just cleanly mixing one into the other)
tends to be pretty funk-less, or at best just a tad boring or uninspired...
That is why to me I love hearing Claude Young, because what he plays tends
to be harder than I'd buy/play, but the crazy funky stuff he does in the
mix really ads that funk that's IMHO missing from some of the individual
tracks themselves.  Rob Hood and Jay Denham are less tricky than Claude,
but without a doubt their DJ styles also adds trenemdous soul and funk
beyond what the records themselves were 'born with'.  IMHO, far too many
DJs select a set by what is easy to mix, not by how great the tracks really
are *on their own merit*.

Couldn't agree more with these comments from Matt. I think exactly the same
way which explains why I  get bored with just hard, minimal blended techno
sets but love hearing Dave Clarke adding more to minimal records with
doubles, drop-ins, EQs, cut & scratch etc. So we have Claude Young & Dave
Clarke that can mix techno in that style but are there any others?? If
there are then please tell me and I'll look out for them.
 On the issue of who understands mixing better than who - I think anyone
that owns a set of turntables should appreciate mixing that requires a
higher level of skill.


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[313] tronic treatment @ DEMF (fwd)

2002-05-17 Thread Wes
Venue: The old UR Building
2030 w Grand River Detroit MI
Located Downtown Detroit behind the State Theater.
Less then 4 blocks from Hart Plaza

Contact Info : 248-988-1058

DJs
Sunday: may 26
G-Flame a.k.a. ADVENT (live) - Alphawave,UK
Steve Rachmad - Music Man, Holland
Bryan Never a.k.a Bryan Zentz - Electrix, UK/VA
Nigel Richards - 611, Philly
James Pennington - UR, Detroit
Punisher - Seismic, Detroit
Cosmic Spore - Seismic, Detroit
Shortround - Real, Detroit
Jay Langa aka Green Hornet - Incecticyde, Detroit
Automan - Hypothesis, Detroit

Monday - may 27
Special guest (Drumcode, Sweden) + Marco Carola
(Zenit, Italy) tagging on 4 tables
Christian Smith - Tronic, Sweden
John Selway - Tronic, NY
Lynxx - DEM Records, Detroit
Neil V - Techno City Records, Detroit
Dillion and Allistar Todd - Changing Faces, Detroit
Cop A Feel - Feel This, Detroit

Presales -  $20
Record Time
Roseville 586-775-1550
Ferndale 248-336-8463
Detroit Threads 313-872-1777
More $ @ Door

www.TronicTreatment.com
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[313] playlist WNUR Chicago - 10 May 2002

2002-05-17 Thread Matthew MacQueen

Clinically Inclined
10 May 2002
11 pm - 1 am CST
www.wnur.org / 89.3 fm in Chicago


Selector: M. MacQueen

Wood, Brass & Steel - Funk-a-nova (bootleg '76)
Klein & MBO - More Dirty Talk (Ram's Horn '85)
Taffy - I Love My Radio [USA mix] (Emergency '86)
Claudio Simonetti - College [dub version] (Jumbo, '84)
My Mine - Hypnotic Tango - Danica '85)
ABC - How to Be A Zillionaire [Wall Street 12" mix] (Mercury '84)
Sheila E - The Glamorous Life - The Glamorous Life (WB, '84)
Section 25 - Looking From A Hilltop (Factory '84)
New Order - Everything's Gone Green (Factory '81)
Portion Control - The Great Divide (Razormaid '85)
Afrika Bambaataa - Bambaataa's Theme [Assault on Precinct 13] (Tommy Boy, 1986) 
 
Scape One - Utopian Etude - Fizzy Soda EP (Emoticon)
Total Science - Sugar Sweet (Head 2 Toe)
Double Helix - D&A - Funxtiles EP (Rush Hour)
Deepart - Select Window - Collage #1 (Rush Hour)
Dimension 5 - Dark City - Dark City (Delsin)
Sympletic - Space 4-2 (Ifach)
The Orb - Blue Room [remix] (Big Life)
Plaid - Booc - Booc (Warp)
Schooly D - Gucci Time (bootleg, '8?)
West Street Mob - Breakdance: Electric Boogie (Sugar Hill '83)


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[313] network 23

2002-05-17 Thread Samuel Hobbs
i am wondering if anyone has any info. on a label
called "Network 23."

-sam

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LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience
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RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip ==> mixing styles

2002-05-17 Thread chad

i didn't mean to come out so arguementative, but i think you see my point.

i think for most people, no matter who it is or where they are, if they're
going off it's more about a connection with the sound and surrounding
space...  not so much about something to do with their ego or whether or
not it's been done before.  so yes, you will have different styles and
attitudes in different areas.

i guess i can see some people getting inflated egos, but i can't imagine
any dj standing up futzing with records thinking "gee, i'm so innovative
right now... i'm breaking all the rules"... well... i take that back.

still, i think some people are justified in being defensive... especially
when what they are doing is treated as such a commodity and because of
the competitive nature of that "game".  as for the low key dj's... i see
that, too.  i love that.

peace,
chad

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Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip ==> mixing styles

2002-05-17 Thread Phonopsia
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Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip ==> mixing styles


> On Thu, 16 May 2002, Giles Dickerson wrote:
>
> +rules. BUT, and this is a big one, you usually need to know the rules to
> +break them.
>
> what?  seems to me that people who don't know the rules break them all the
> time.

I'm with Gilles. I see tons of kids coming into the DJ/production studio I
work at with big notions of "doing something that's never been done before".
People who want to get 2progressive4jumpstep... In production this is even
more obvious, but that's a different story. Like Matt said, learning how to
mix two records seamlessly is just the first step. I'm pretty sure that's
the "rule" Gilles is talking about. But really I think this is moving the
thread back to where it started, covering the same ground again.

The biggest issue I have with the original comments is the idea that Detroit
(or Chicago) are representative of DJing in the US. This is not the case.
Techno and its offshoots are really the only genres other than hip hop where
you see DJs get crazy on the decks. "Smooth" mixing is what's most popular
in house, trance, progressive, drum 'n bass or whatever. There are
exceptions in almost every genre, but my long belabored point is that techno
doesn't have a home anywhere in the US but Detroit, or maybe New York, so
the idea that the Detroit or Hot Mix style is representative of the US is
very misleading. If I'm not mistaken, you don't see too much of this in
Chicago anymore even. "The long mix" is the goal most DJs in most genres aim
for these days. It can be nice, particularly with thick, deep house, but
generally I wanna see someone go off and you don't see that much outside of
the Midwest.

Tristan
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[313] Vladislav Delay / LLuomo / AGF Live in NYC

2002-05-17 Thread Giles Dickerson
OTHER MUSIC presents...
An Evening with AGF/DLAY including live performances by:

Vladislav Delay (Mille Plateaux - Helsinki, Finland)
AGF (Orthlong Musork - Berlin, Germany)
AGF/DLAY (...)
Luomo (Force Tracks)

Thursday, May 30
10:00p.m. to 4:00a.m.

FUN
130 Madison St. (btwn. Market and Pike Streets)
New York, NY
212.964.0303

$14 - Buy: 
http://www.othermusic.com/perl-bin/OM/CD_Add_To_Cart.cgi?sku=0175852&refer_url=email


- Giles

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RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip ==> mixing styles

2002-05-17 Thread chad
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Giles Dickerson wrote:

+rules. BUT, and this is a big one, you usually need to know the rules to
+break them.

what?  seems to me that people who don't know the rules break them all the
time.

you don't need to know a damn thing.

chad


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RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip ==> mixing styles

2002-05-17 Thread Giles Dickerson
Let me just throw something out. There's no one way to do anything. If you 
thionk you can mix house with choppy edits and do it well, then go ahead an 
experiment. The whole idea of moving forward means breaking the rules. BUT, and 
this is a big one, you usually need to know the rules to break them.

- Giles

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> --
> From: Super Coffee Beans
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:34 PM
> To:   313@hyperreal.org
> Subject:  Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
> 
> here`s my two cents.
> after hearing so many local dj`s who play techno like proggy house or
> even worse mixing it only in the end, i must say techno is a kind of
> music which should be mixed as hell. people like mills,hood,young and
> suchr masters at this. trying to mess with some gigolo 80`s stuff will
> end in very sad sounds, but i mean techno is made for this kick ass
> riggid mix, thats how u should play it and thats how i try to play it.
> but other genere likes house and stuff should IMHO mixed long slow mixes
> with not so much fader work but more knobs turning.
> i heared peter ford play he mixes fine his music is not so bumby ass
> like the riggid techno, and he`s selection is huge. i do not like people
> do scartch over techno sometimes its too much.
> about the pro-tools mix, give any day a bumby hard edge (even with
> mistakes) play with the faders and knobs like its hot potato i allways
> like it.but REAL live mix throw the damm computer to hell, some things
> were ment for humans to be made. in the machine its too good- i hate
> this
> 
> have a nice shavuot
> Yair
> 
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Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip

2002-05-17 Thread Super Coffee Beans
here`s my two cents.
after hearing so many local dj`s who play techno like proggy house or
even worse mixing it only in the end, i must say techno is a kind of
music which should be mixed as hell. people like mills,hood,young and
suchr masters at this. trying to mess with some gigolo 80`s stuff will
end in very sad sounds, but i mean techno is made for this kick ass
riggid mix, thats how u should play it and thats how i try to play it.
but other genere likes house and stuff should IMHO mixed long slow mixes
with not so much fader work but more knobs turning.
i heared peter ford play he mixes fine his music is not so bumby ass
like the riggid techno, and he`s selection is huge. i do not like people
do scartch over techno sometimes its too much.
about the pro-tools mix, give any day a bumby hard edge (even with
mistakes) play with the faders and knobs like its hot potato i allways
like it.but REAL live mix throw the damm computer to hell, some things
were ment for humans to be made. in the machine its too good- i hate
this

have a nice shavuot
Yair


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Re: [313] Shorecrest Inn?

2002-05-17 Thread Kent williams
Shawn Rudiman is a huge fan of their sunday buffet ;-)

On Fri, 17 May 2002, james bucknell wrote:
> we stayed at the shorecrest last year. it's an easy walk to hart plaza, the
> diner is excellent for breakfast,  it's clean, has hot water and a bed. this
> really is a case where the only time you spend in the hotel is sleeping.
> spend the money you save buying theo parrish whitelabels at the trackmode
> party.
> james
> www.jbucknell.com
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RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip

2002-05-17 Thread Giles Dickerson
Hell Yeah Matt !!

- Giles

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> --
> From: Matthew MacQueen
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:09 PM
> To:   313@hyperreal.org
> Cc:   Ian Cheshire; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
> 
> > I'd still be interested in other theories as to why a culture
> >  of skilled, performing DJs is strong in the US and not so
> > strong in Europe - I know  mine is pretty flawed, but in 
> > the absence of alternatives (other than "euro-faggots suck" :) 
> > I'm generally confused as to why it is the way it is.
> > Although I guess another theory could be explained in only 
> > two words - "hip hop"...
> 
> and 'battles', yeah.
> 
> I've been following this thread with a lot of interest and actually trying to 
> put some thoughts toward an explanation.  Bear with me
> 
> Contributing factors from a roots perspective are (as far as Detroit jocks 
> go) when you grow up listing to the Wizard 'quick mix' style on the radio, 
> you benchmark that as quality skills, something as a kid you think in your 
> head "now that is what a stellar DJ does."  Or booty jocks, etc. it's part of 
> what you hear on the radio or in your environment, and influences you, as 
> obviously a lot of that (even Mills) influenced and by pop dance of the 80s 
> of which hip-hop and Mojo's eclecticism is a big part.  A whole generation of 
> people in Detroit who heard 'hot-mix' and/or "quick mix" style shows and the 
> Wizard on the radio learn that skills = more than selections and more into 
> the realm of "what creatively/aggressively can you do with 2+ records"... 
> including early experimentations by Derrick May and even Richie with what 
> could you do with a Reel-to-reel machine during a radio show or DJ gig, etc.  
>  Also what the HotMix 5 were doing in Chicago was all about cramming as many 
> hot 'street tracks' into a show, and that also means stuff like doubles, 
> drop-ins, phasing, cut-n-scratch, EQs, 33/45 tricks, effects, etc.  And Yes I 
> am talking about with (proto) techno and house music, italo, etc.
> 
> I'm with the camp who would rather see someone try and fail at something more 
> 'reaching' and funky and experimenting with really CREATING more than the sum 
> of an intro and an outtro of 2 records that flow seamlessly together.  Yes 
> there is a time for that, but to me it's a lot easier and 'safer' than really 
> trying to ask yourself as a DJ "how can I go beyond just these 2 records, as 
> the artists intended them?"  
> 
> Esp. when you have records that are maybe hard as nails and 'straight' 
> techno.. you have to inject some funk into them with the way you play them in 
> a mix, because on their own, (just cleanly mixing one into the other) tends 
> to be pretty funk-less, or at best just a tad boring or uninspired...  That 
> is why to me I love hearing Claude Young, because what he plays tends to be 
> harder than I'd buy/play, but the crazy funky stuff he does in the mix really 
> ads that funk that's IMHO missing from some of the individual tracks 
> themselves.  Rob Hood and Jay Denham are less tricky than Claude, but without 
> a doubt their DJ styles also adds trenemdous soul and funk beyond what the 
> records themselves were 'born with'.  IMHO, far too many DJs select a set by 
> what is easy to mix, not by how great the tracks really are *on their own 
> merit*.   
> 
> I guess to me the idea of just smoothly blending 2 great tracks is an average 
> way to play, (the cost of entry to DJing, if you will) but what really set up 
> you up as a creator / crowd mover became what you could do beyond that...  
> either with experimental selections (cross-genres/years/styles!!) or more 
> aggressiveness or experimentatin through other various techniques.
> 
> So - in summary? - there's new generations of DJs who never were really 
> exposed to that as an archetypal kind of radio aggressive Hot Mix DJ, and I 
> think they have newer/different influences and DJ 'role models' than the 
> previous genera> tion who grew up wishing you were The Wizard, who was for 
> most people (who heard him) the guy you wished you could DJ like.  :)So 
> not saying one style is right or wrong, but that might explain some of the 
> US/Detroit style of really getting aggressive and 'tricky' in a mix, without 
> it coming off as mere novelty, but elevating the art of what a DJ *DOES* as 
> an artform, more than what a simple machine or software can do now.  DOes 
> anyone know what I'm trying to say?  
> 
> While "we may equate machines with funkiness", you also can't program 
> ProTools to 'inject funk' in a mix.  Well, not yet. ;)
> 
> peace,
> Matt MacQueen
> 
> 
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RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip

2002-05-17 Thread Matthew MacQueen
> I'd still be interested in other theories as to why a culture
>  of skilled, performing DJs is strong in the US and not so
> strong in Europe - I know  mine is pretty flawed, but in 
> the absence of alternatives (other than "euro-faggots suck" :) 
> I'm generally confused as to why it is the way it is.
> Although I guess another theory could be explained in only 
> two words - "hip hop"...

and 'battles', yeah.

I've been following this thread with a lot of interest and actually trying to 
put some thoughts toward an explanation.  Bear with me

Contributing factors from a roots perspective are (as far as Detroit jocks go) 
when you grow up listing to the Wizard 'quick mix' style on the radio, you 
benchmark that as quality skills, something as a kid you think in your head 
"now that is what a stellar DJ does."  Or booty jocks, etc. it's part of what 
you hear on the radio or in your environment, and influences you, as obviously 
a lot of that (even Mills) influenced and by pop dance of the 80s of which 
hip-hop and Mojo's eclecticism is a big part.  A whole generation of people in 
Detroit who heard 'hot-mix' and/or "quick mix" style shows and the Wizard on 
the radio learn that skills = more than selections and more into the realm of 
"what creatively/aggressively can you do with 2+ records"... including early 
experimentations by Derrick May and even Richie with what could you do with a 
Reel-to-reel machine during a radio show or DJ gig, etc.   Also what the HotMix 
5 were doing in Chicago was all about cramming as many hot 'street tracks' into 
a show, and that also means stuff like doubles, drop-ins, phasing, 
cut-n-scratch, EQs, 33/45 tricks, effects, etc.  And Yes I am talking about 
with (proto) techno and house music, italo, etc.

I'm with the camp who would rather see someone try and fail at something more 
'reaching' and funky and experimenting with really CREATING more than the sum 
of an intro and an outtro of 2 records that flow seamlessly together.  Yes 
there is a time for that, but to me it's a lot easier and 'safer' than really 
trying to ask yourself as a DJ "how can I go beyond just these 2 records, as 
the artists intended them?"  

Esp. when you have records that are maybe hard as nails and 'straight' techno.. 
you have to inject some funk into them with the way you play them in a mix, 
because on their own, (just cleanly mixing one into the other) tends to be 
pretty funk-less, or at best just a tad boring or uninspired...  That is why to 
me I love hearing Claude Young, because what he plays tends to be harder than 
I'd buy/play, but the crazy funky stuff he does in the mix really ads that funk 
that's IMHO missing from some of the individual tracks themselves.  Rob Hood 
and Jay Denham are less tricky than Claude, but without a doubt their DJ styles 
also adds trenemdous soul and funk beyond what the records themselves were 
'born with'.  IMHO, far too many DJs select a set by what is easy to mix, not 
by how great the tracks really are *on their own merit*.   

I guess to me the idea of just smoothly blending 2 great tracks is an average 
way to play, (the cost of entry to DJing, if you will) but what really set up 
you up as a creator / crowd mover became what you could do beyond that...  
either with experimental selections (cross-genres/years/styles!!) or more 
aggressiveness or experimentatin through other various techniques.

So - in summary? - there's new generations of DJs who never were really exposed 
to that as an archetypal kind of radio aggressive Hot Mix DJ, and I think they 
have newer/different influences and DJ 'role models' than the previous 
generation who grew up wishing you were The Wizard, who was for most people 
(who heard him) the guy you wished you could DJ like.  :)So not saying one 
style is right or wrong, but that might explain some of the US/Detroit style of 
really getting aggressive and 'tricky' in a mix, without it coming off as mere 
novelty, but elevating the art of what a DJ *DOES* as an artform, more than 
what a simple machine or software can do now.  DOes anyone know what I'm trying 
to say?  

While "we may equate machines with funkiness", you also can't program ProTools 
to 'inject funk' in a mix.  Well, not yet. ;)

peace,
Matt MacQueen




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