Re: (313) [313] Tracklisting on a Ferox EP.

2002-10-01 Thread J. T.

i jotted the tracklist down on the label of mine:

a1 dan curtin  mike filly - the longest night
a2 the invisibles - estamos perdidos
b1 idiot savant - rudiment sketch
b2 fusion - cube of the blues (ian o'brien rework)

the dc and m.f. is one of their best, up there with the best poff! i never 
got much into the rest, havent checked it in awhile tho..


jt


 hey folks.  can anyone provide me with a tracklisting for FER028?
 it's the further adventures in techno soul sampler.  i think one track
 is ian o'brien.

The A1 is Dan Curtin (possibly in his Purveyors of Fine Funk guise), and 
the

B2 is Ian O'Brien, but I can't remember what the other two were - they
weren't labelled on the 12 but I think I did find out at one point. If I
remember I'll let you know...

Cheers,

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(313) Mixes and tracks on mp3!

2002-10-01 Thread Brendan Nelson
Further to the recent thread about websites with mp3 mixes, and the interest
in the Wide booty mixes, I've put up a new page at:

http://www.sharesite.org/music.html

This features some booty mixes, and some that are more predominantly techno
or house, and will be updated regularly. It's also got some new tracks
produced by myself, for anyone who used to visit the old brelson.com before
it got turned into a porn site!

That page will be updated pretty regularly with new mixes and tracks from
myself and Guy, so if you're hungry for 313-flavoured mp3 mixes, or some
nice home-spun tracks, check back regularly.

Sorry for the spammage but quite a few people have asked for passwords to
the Wide website download area, so there seems to be sufficient
justification for posting this short-cut to the more up-to-date stuff :)

Enjoy!

Brendan



(313) Carl Craig Interview

2002-10-01 Thread Cyclone Wehner
There's a really good interview with Carl Craig at www.tranzfusion.net (I
think that's right).

I just came across this last night and I think this sheds some light on that
Nelly Hot In Herre debate we had a few weeks ago. This is why I defended
Nelly (plus I think he's a cool cat, focussed and talented). If you asked
Puffy why he makes the music he does he would say something similiar. It
also relates to the UR/Jaguar debate - indirectly - with my point being that
you have to consider the context before making value judgements.

 Skrufff: Hip hop culture still seems to be mainly about money and front, why?

 Carl Craig: ³That¹s black American culture. If you look at the history of
 most people of African descent in different countries their concept is to
 be kings. The concept is, ŒWe¹ve been oppressed for so long, we¹ve got to
 get (what¹s) ours¹. Another factor is that when you look at popular culture
 what really sells are records about money.²

 Skrufff: Yet you and a lot of the Detroit techno people don¹t seem so
 obsessed with money?

 Carl Craig: ³Yeah that¹s because we¹re not hailing from the tenement
 projects (public housing estates) where there were drugs taking over not
 only the projects but whole neighbourhoods too. ... When you look at a lot of
 hip hop and the pattern of hip hop it¹s about being from the projects and
 being poor, trying to scrape together money and always hustling. From our
 background, a hustle is a lot different.²




(313) George Clinton Answers Techno#8217;s Greatest Question

2002-10-01 Thread stewart
Found this article on the net, made me laugh


  Legendary funkateer George Clinton has finally revealed what he thought of 
Derrick May#8217;s classic description of Detroit techno as sounding 
#8220;like George Clinton and Kraftwerk stuck in an elevator, in typically 
robust fashion. Speaking to Australian journalist Cyclone recently, he chuckled 
when asked what he#8217;d really create if he genuinely got stuck with the 
Germans in the aforementioned lift.

Well, some funny lil' babies, that's for sure. We sho' f**k 'em in the butt! 
You'd definitely come up with some lil' battery-operated children that won't 
'techno' for an answer... You'd probably come up with techno doo-wop. 



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(313) [313] UR-World to World

2002-10-01 Thread Remco . Doorewaard
Hi, can anyone confirm that this is a record wiith a break beat and 'rave
sounds' in it? Also believe there is a voice saying something like
'technosis'. Someone told me this is world to world (UR 20), is this true?


Thanks, Remco




(313) Terrence Dixon

2002-10-01 Thread Arne Weinberg
hello folks.


Does anybody know what's up with Terrence Dixon?
After co-producing Juan Atkins Infiniti album and releasing his own album on 
Tresor nothing has been released from him, right?
Will there be something coming up?


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(313) OT - Chunky record store

2002-10-01 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
Sorry for the off-topicness of the post but i'm out on a limb here.

I'm desperately looking for the Bathrobin ep by Autophonic on DUB...the only
places if have found on the net are either 2 shops in the states (Bent
Crayon and Gemm) and Chunky Records from England.
I've tried Smallfish, Clone, Nuloop, Groovetech, Hardwax, Tiger Sushi,
Boomkat. Are there any other european shops i could try?

What i want to know is if any of you have heard of Chunky or has ever done
business with them. Please reply off-list.

Thanks and please excuse me again,
fab.



RE: (313) OT - Chunky record store

2002-10-01 Thread Langsman, Marc

Someone on the list recommended www.gemm.com to me ages ago - Its an online
interface to loads of small indipendent record shops and Ive found
practically all the hard to get stuff Ive been looking for through it - def
worth a shot !

peace,
Marc

 -Original Message-
 From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 01 October 2002 11:35
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) OT - Chunky record store
 
 
 Sorry for the off-topicness of the post but i'm out on a limb here.
 
 I'm desperately looking for the Bathrobin ep by Autophonic on 
 DUB...the only
 places if have found on the net are either 2 shops in the states (Bent
 Crayon and Gemm) and Chunky Records from England.
 I've tried Smallfish, Clone, Nuloop, Groovetech, Hardwax, Tiger Sushi,
 Boomkat. Are there any other european shops i could try?
 
 What i want to know is if any of you have heard of Chunky or 
 has ever done
 business with them. Please reply off-list.
 
 Thanks and please excuse me again,
 fab.
 
 

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(313) titonton rushhour `s set track id.

2002-10-01 Thread moog
this dude can really rock on the decks.
on his set at rushhour on 20:29 into the sets start a track with funny
melody. anyone have any idea?
http://www.heitlager.com/antal/titonton.ram

danke
yair



Re: (313) clonk

2002-10-01 Thread dj revolver
I believe they were going to broadcast streaming live audio from a M-nus 
party a couple years back. I'm not sure if this ever took place.




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Subject: (313) clonk
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:24:33 -0400

ne1 know whats up with this?
http://www.clonk.com/index_0.html










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(313) test

2002-10-01 Thread marc christensen

trouble posting, please ignore


Re: (313) George Clinton Answers Techno#8217;s Greatest Question

2002-10-01 Thread marc christensen

At 8:42 AM +0200 10/1/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Legendary funkateer George Clinton has finally revealed what he 
thought of Derrick May#8217;s classic description of Detroit techno 
as sounding like George Clinton and Kraftwerk stuck in an 
elevator, in typically robust fashion. Speaking to Australian 
journalist Cyclone recently, he chuckled when asked what he'd really 
create if he genuinely got stuck with the Germans in the 
aforementioned lift.


I'm sure that quote probably ended up annoying George C. as much as 
it probably annoyed everybody in the 313 for its all-too-frequent 
repetition.  Unfortunately, with all that has been said about techno, 
it was this comment that always made the final print.  and usually 
without the with only a sequncer to keep them company proviso.


sheesh, the comment's more than ten years old.  let it die.  let it die.

-marc

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RE: (313) George Clinton Answers Techno#8217;s Greatest Question

2002-10-01 Thread Robert Taylor
Chill out - it's just a quote that is repeated often because it has a
certain resonance with fans and journalists.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) George Clinton Answers Techno#8217;s Greatest
Question


At 8:42 AM +0200 10/1/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Legendary funkateer George Clinton has finally revealed what he 
thought of Derrick May#8217;s classic description of Detroit techno 
as sounding like George Clinton and Kraftwerk stuck in an 
elevator, in typically robust fashion. Speaking to Australian 
journalist Cyclone recently, he chuckled when asked what he'd really 
create if he genuinely got stuck with the Germans in the 
aforementioned lift.

I'm sure that quote probably ended up annoying George C. as much as 
it probably annoyed everybody in the 313 for its all-too-frequent 
repetition.  Unfortunately, with all that has been said about techno, 
it was this comment that always made the final print.  and usually 
without the with only a sequncer to keep them company proviso.

sheesh, the comment's more than ten years old.  let it die.  let it die.

-marc

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(313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread jurren baars


1)last week i asked about everyone's favorite label art, this week it's time 
for your favorite sleeve. now most of the house/techno records i buy 
nowadays, come in a plain black or white sleeve, but there are a few nice 
exceptions to the rule. one of my my favorite sleeves is not [313] but 
[312]:


lil louis and the world - journey with the lonely lp

which i just won on ebay [ $10 !!!]

2)so what have been your most lucky finds?
an extremely expensive record, that you found cheap, or a record you had 
been looking for that you found somewhere, you'd never expected it to find, 
or a tune you had been looking for for ages, that you didn't even know the 
title of, that you happened to stumble upon.
to me this is probably the most fun part of searching for records [well not 
always...] digging the 2nd hand/used records bins everywhere you see them. 
you'll be surprised at what gemms you can find at unusual places.


3)just like a lot of other [313]list members i went to amsterdam last friday 
to hear brett dancer and larry heard play some records at paradisco3000. and 
had a great time! brett was already playing when i got in at around 1.30, 
and he played a quality set, with almost only classics, from ymo, to model 
500, 'washing machine','altered states' and many more. larry came after him 
around 3.00, and [to me] never really got going, maybe it was because brett 
dancer played quite a hard set, so going deep after that, and keeping the 
dancefloor filled at the same time was difficult. by 4.00 a lot of people 
had allready left, and that's not really helping the dj either. but he still 
played some great tracks, he even played 'energy flash', not a record i had 
expected to hear that night. so all in all, i had a great night, great music 
nice people, and great looking women [yes, that ís important too.]
and paradiso has got a lot more to offer the next couple of months: leroy 
burgess, domu, sun ra dedication night with jimi tenor  kirk de giorgio, 
and i think i saw a poster announcing kerri chandler?


jurren

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RE: (313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread ian cheshire
well my lucky find was Red 2 on the orginal Red Vinyl.


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From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 October 2002 14:25
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) 3 posts in one



1)last week i asked about everyone's favorite label art, this week it's time
for your favorite sleeve. now most of the house/techno records i buy
nowadays, come in a plain black or white sleeve, but there are a few nice
exceptions to the rule. one of my my favorite sleeves is not [313] but
[312]:

lil louis and the world - journey with the lonely lp

which i just won on ebay [ $10 !!!]

2)so what have been your most lucky finds?
an extremely expensive record, that you found cheap, or a record you had
been looking for that you found somewhere, you'd never expected it to find,
or a tune you had been looking for for ages, that you didn't even know the
title of, that you happened to stumble upon.
to me this is probably the most fun part of searching for records [well not
always...] digging the 2nd hand/used records bins everywhere you see them.
you'll be surprised at what gemms you can find at unusual places.

3)just like a lot of other [313]list members i went to amsterdam last friday
to hear brett dancer and larry heard play some records at paradisco3000. and
had a great time! brett was already playing when i got in at around 1.30,
and he played a quality set, with almost only classics, from ymo, to model
500, 'washing machine','altered states' and many more. larry came after him
around 3.00, and [to me] never really got going, maybe it was because brett
dancer played quite a hard set, so going deep after that, and keeping the
dancefloor filled at the same time was difficult. by 4.00 a lot of people
had allready left, and that's not really helping the dj either. but he still
played some great tracks, he even played 'energy flash', not a record i had
expected to hear that night. so all in all, i had a great night, great music
nice people, and great looking women [yes, that ís important too.]
and paradiso has got a lot more to offer the next couple of months: leroy
burgess, domu, sun ra dedication night with jimi tenor  kirk de giorgio,
and i think i saw a poster announcing kerri chandler?

jurren

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Re: (313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread Placid
 
 1)last week i asked about everyone's favorite label art, this week it's time
 for your favorite sleeve. now most of the house/techno records i buy
 nowadays, come in a plain black or white sleeve, but there are a few nice
 exceptions to the rule. one of my my favorite sleeves is not [313] but
 [312]:
 
 lil louis and the world - journey with the lonely lp
 
 which i just won on ebay [ $10 !!!]

Pod - the vanguard ep
Kikrokos - jungle dj
 
 2)so what have been your most lucky finds?
 an extremely expensive record, that you found cheap, or a record you had
 been looking for that you found somewhere, you'd never expected it to find,
 or a tune you had been looking for for ages, that you didn't even know the
 title of, that you happened to stumble upon.
 to me this is probably the most fun part of searching for records [well not
 always...] digging the 2nd hand/used records bins everywhere you see them.
 you'll be surprised at what gemms you can find at unusual places.

Open house,carl craig  chapter 1, carl craig  chapter 1 w/climax, paperclip
people, mk, and mike dunn 6 track ep on westbrook  all for £30

 
 3)just like a lot of other [313]list members i went to amsterdam last friday
 to hear brett dancer and larry heard play some records at paradisco3000. and
 had a great time! brett was already playing when i got in at around 1.30,
 and he played a quality set, with almost only classics, from ymo, to model
 500, 'washing machine','altered states' and many more. larry came after him
 around 3.00, and [to me] never really got going, maybe it was because brett
 dancer played quite a hard set, so going deep after that, and keeping the
 dancefloor filled at the same time was difficult. by 4.00 a lot of people
 had allready left, and that's not really helping the dj either. but he still
 played some great tracks, he even played 'energy flash', not a record i had
 expected to hear that night. so all in all, i had a great night, great music
 nice people, and great looking women [yes, that ís important too.]
 and paradiso has got a lot more to offer the next couple of months: leroy
 burgess, domu, sun ra dedication night with jimi tenor  kirk de giorgio,
 and i think i saw a poster announcing kerri chandler?
 
 jurren
 
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(313) Betr.: (313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread Remco . Doorewaard

I like the artwork of the rerelease of Bobby Konders tracks on Gigolo,  has
a nice feel to it!

Also non-313: Ulrich Schnauss - Far away trains passing by on City Centre
Offices, nice downtempo record with nice sleeve!

Lucky finds: Lil Louis - French Kiss on Diamond for 5 guilders (bij de
plaatboef :-)

Don't know if it's rare, people say so.

Remco




(313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread Jonny McIntosh
  2)so what have been your most lucky finds?

 Arthur Russell's World of Deep (second copy) for the equivalent of about
2
 UKP amongst mountains of cack in the only record shop open in Ghent at
9am.
 And I had repeatedly told Red D it wasn't worth the energy. It is always
 worth the energy. My first copy was $6 sealed, too.





(313) George Clinton Answers

2002-10-01 Thread Cyclone Wehner
To begin with, I am not sure how it ended up on that site, but it's kinda 
cool. I did the interview a few months ago for an RB magazine and it fitted
the context since he had just performed at the DEMF. He is actually working
on a new album of 'techno doo-wop'.
Just last week I finally remembered to send the quote to a good friend of
mine in Detroit and he circulated it maybe. I then saw it on a Skruff
newsletter I got. George had never toured Australia before. I am not even
sure if he has talked to Australian media before. I knew people here,
especially younger people, would be interested in his thoughts on techno
generally (as well as hip-hop) and so that was on my list of questions -
that quote was a useful device to draw a link.

George came across as very mellow, and was far from annoyed, he doesn't seem
to get annoyed by too much. I don't believe in asking veteran artists purely
about their past (he says he doesn't recall much about his anyway) as it
then assumes people are musuem pieces and have nothing else to offer. If
anything, that can annoy artists.

From Derrick's standpoint, I think in interviews he has always been someone
who carefully thinks about what he says because he knows it's for
prosperity. It's more being misquoted that gets to him. The quote is part of
techno's mythology, so if it dies, techno dies. Does that quote really annoy
anyone? I would be interested to know. I think there's more annoying things
- like being marginalised by the likes of Sasha and Digweed, or people
assuming that if you're techno you will play a certain kind of techno, or
being musically stereotyped, or whatever.

 I'm sure that quote probably ended up annoying George C. as much as
 it probably annoyed everybody in the 313 for its all-too-frequent
 repetition. Unfortunately, with all that has been said about techno,
 it was this comment that always made the final print. and usually
 without the with only a sequncer to keep them company proviso.

 sheesh, the comment's more than ten years old. let it die. let it die.

 -marc
 


RE: (313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread Langsman, Marc
1)
UR Interstellar Fugitives is pretty cool
I really like the artwork on the 'comin from tha d' series as well
Actually I also really like the picture of richie on the de909 closer to the
edit stuff with his eye blocky/digitized

Non 313 Ive always liked the Mr Scruff 'keep it unreal' album cover with the
quirky cartoons

2)
not 313 but just got an original copy of the soundtrack to 'the prisoner' tv
series for £8 [seems to sell for 40-50 but theres no way im letting go of
it!!]

 -Original Message-
 From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 01 October 2002 22:41
 To: 313 mailing list
 Subject: Re: (313) 3 posts in one
 
 
  
  1)last week i asked about everyone's favorite label art, 
 this week it's time
  for your favorite sleeve. now most of the house/techno records i buy
  nowadays, come in a plain black or white sleeve, but there 
 are a few nice
  exceptions to the rule. one of my my favorite sleeves is 
 not [313] but
  [312]:
  
  lil louis and the world - journey with the lonely lp
  
  which i just won on ebay [ $10 !!!]
 
 Pod - the vanguard ep
 Kikrokos - jungle dj
  
  2)so what have been your most lucky finds?
  an extremely expensive record, that you found cheap, or a 
 record you had
  been looking for that you found somewhere, you'd never 
 expected it to find,
  or a tune you had been looking for for ages, that you 
 didn't even know the
  title of, that you happened to stumble upon.
  to me this is probably the most fun part of searching for 
 records [well not
  always...] digging the 2nd hand/used records bins 
 everywhere you see them.
  you'll be surprised at what gemms you can find at unusual places.
 
 Open house,carl craig  chapter 1, carl craig  chapter 1 
 w/climax, paperclip
 people, mk, and mike dunn 6 track ep on westbrook  all for £30
 
  
  3)just like a lot of other [313]list members i went to 
 amsterdam last friday
  to hear brett dancer and larry heard play some records at 
 paradisco3000. and
  had a great time! brett was already playing when i got in 
 at around 1.30,
  and he played a quality set, with almost only classics, 
 from ymo, to model
  500, 'washing machine','altered states' and many more. 
 larry came after him
  around 3.00, and [to me] never really got going, maybe it 
 was because brett
  dancer played quite a hard set, so going deep after that, 
 and keeping the
  dancefloor filled at the same time was difficult. by 4.00 a 
 lot of people
  had allready left, and that's not really helping the dj 
 either. but he still
  played some great tracks, he even played 'energy flash', 
 not a record i had
  expected to hear that night. so all in all, i had a great 
 night, great music
  nice people, and great looking women [yes, that ís important too.]
  and paradiso has got a lot more to offer the next couple of 
 months: leroy
  burgess, domu, sun ra dedication night with jimi tenor  
 kirk de giorgio,
  and i think i saw a poster announcing kerri chandler?
  
  jurren
  
   
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RE: (313) OT - Chunky record store

2002-10-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Plus it seems to me that the majority of the shops represented through Gemm
are in the UK!

MEK




   
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Someone on the list recommended www.gemm.com to me ages ago - Its an online
interface to loads of small indipendent record shops and Ive found
practically all the hard to get stuff Ive been looking for through it - def
worth a shot !

peace,
Marc

 -Original Message-
 From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 01 October 2002 11:35
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) OT - Chunky record store


 Sorry for the off-topicness of the post but i'm out on a limb here.

 I'm desperately looking for the Bathrobin ep by Autophonic on
 DUB...the only
 places if have found on the net are either 2 shops in the states (Bent
 Crayon and Gemm) and Chunky Records from England.
 I've tried Smallfish, Clone, Nuloop, Groovetech, Hardwax, Tiger Sushi,
 Boomkat. Are there any other european shops i could try?

 What i want to know is if any of you have heard of Chunky or
 has ever done
 business with them. Please reply off-list.

 Thanks and please excuse me again,
 fab.



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Re: (313) George Clinton Answers

2002-10-01 Thread marc christensen

At 11:55 PM +1000 10/1/02, Cyclone Wehner wrote:

From Derrick's standpoint, I think in interviews he has always been someone

who carefully thinks about what he says because he knows it's for
prosperity.


I think the longevity of that one quote has certainly added to May's 
historically-conscious introspection.  Not that he wasn't a 
thoughtful and articulate guy before, but that quote has just been 
beat like a dead horse.




Does that quote really annoy
anyone? I would be interested to know.


The annoying thing about it at this point is that every time i see it 
in print, i ask:

   couldn't they put something fresher in here?
   can't they get a writer who can do a little bit of real *work* on 
their topic?


Imagine how much fun XLR8R would be to read if each and every issue 
had to run that quote just one more time.


I've got little against the quote itself (except that one reading of 
it overemphasizes the specificity of the Kraftwerk influence, which 
Simon Reynolds uses to pretty directly diss detroit).  I object to 
its mass republication-as-oversimplification.


-marc



(313) Let Scatalogics plan your weekend for you!

2002-10-01 Thread Elliot Taub



LET SCATALOGICS PLAN YOUR WEEKEND

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SCATALOGICS PRESENTS...
ULYSSES (CITY ROCKERS, LASERGUN, TOMMY BOY, TEKNOTIKA, SCATALOGICS)
JAMES DUNCAN (ENVIRON, TRAXX, LE SYSTEME)  + SPECIAL GUEST
@ Filter 14  432 W14th St. at Washington
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DRINK SPECIALS FOR MY ALCOHOLIC FRIENDS!
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Be sure not to miss this one! The last Filter 14 eent was off the meat rack,
it topped the scales, it overflowed the toilets... Holy Hogmuffins! People
seemd to do an awful lot of that stuff called Dancing, I wonder what
THAT'S all about... Plus there just might be a secret live perfomance from
somebody famous, if we can talk him into it. Oh yeah, James Duncan rocks the
world like no other.

-

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SUBTEXT
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-

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(313) Mayday pheerce city

2002-10-01 Thread Placid
Has nayone got a double/spare of  mayday  sinister  on pheerce city

Will pay or find swap...



Re: (313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

1)your favorite sleeve:

Techno the new dance sound of Detroit - the emblem is just so cool with the
skyline behind it.
All Transmat sleeves - the logo the logo the logo
Carl Craig's More Songs about Food and Revolutionary Art
Kraftwerk covers
Stacy Pullen's Today is the Tomorrow you were promised Yesterday
Ken Ishii's Jelly Tones
The early DJ Kicks series with just the photo of the artist and the
monocolor backgrounds



2)so what have been your most lucky finds?

A Number of Names Sharivari on Quality for about the same price as a cup
of coffee. In one of my local used record shops they have a new arrivals
and then those eventually get transferred to the masses of used stuff. I
found it among the masses. How it ever slipped passed I have no idea but I
had to look at it for several minutes just to get it into my head that I
was holding it in my hand and for the price??

Techno: The new dance sound of Detroit - not found but given to me as a
gift from a good friend's personal collection

Silent Phase Psychotic Funk on Transmat - in a little DJ store, again in
the used bin but in mint condition sleeve and all.

Sabres of Paradise Theme - same store same story.

Derrick May Strings of Life on Kool Kat w/Juan Atkins remix - slipped
into a Plastic City record sleeve by whomever sold it to the shop.

Malcolm McLaren Duck Rock just this past weekend Bu-Bu-Buffalo Gals.

Carl Craig's Bug in the Bassbin on Mo'Wax - new but hadn't seen it around
these parts before (on the same day and same shop as the Sabres of
Paradise.

Fade II Black The Dilemma on Elypsia (which has some cool label art)

there have been so many I can't recall all of them...

MEK









Re: (313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread moog
1. i really prefer minimal cardboard sleeves with minimal art. also not so
detroit but MORR music make great sleeves. also all the music aus strom
sleeves with r just big cardborads with engraved MAS r great. also kompakt
art is simple but kool. and environ has lovely labels which express the
sounds of the labels also bpitch control has nice arts. well i can`t choose
just one or 2.
2.i found in spain dr. rockit double 10 and kirk degirogo message in
herbies t-shirt 2X12 on the both defunkt clear for very few pesos. also in
tel aviv orginal print of d-mob aceed on FRRR mint condition.
y
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 3 posts in one



 1)your favorite sleeve:

 Techno the new dance sound of Detroit - the emblem is just so cool with
the
 skyline behind it.
 All Transmat sleeves - the logo the logo the logo
 Carl Craig's More Songs about Food and Revolutionary Art
 Kraftwerk covers
 Stacy Pullen's Today is the Tomorrow you were promised Yesterday
 Ken Ishii's Jelly Tones
 The early DJ Kicks series with just the photo of the artist and the
 monocolor backgrounds



 2)so what have been your most lucky finds?

 A Number of Names Sharivari on Quality for about the same price as a cup
 of coffee. In one of my local used record shops they have a new arrivals
 and then those eventually get transferred to the masses of used stuff. I
 found it among the masses. How it ever slipped passed I have no idea but I
 had to look at it for several minutes just to get it into my head that I
 was holding it in my hand and for the price??

 Techno: The new dance sound of Detroit - not found but given to me as a
 gift from a good friend's personal collection

 Silent Phase Psychotic Funk on Transmat - in a little DJ store, again in
 the used bin but in mint condition sleeve and all.

 Sabres of Paradise Theme - same store same story.

 Derrick May Strings of Life on Kool Kat w/Juan Atkins remix - slipped
 into a Plastic City record sleeve by whomever sold it to the shop.

 Malcolm McLaren Duck Rock just this past weekend Bu-Bu-Buffalo Gals.

 Carl Craig's Bug in the Bassbin on Mo'Wax - new but hadn't seen it
around
 these parts before (on the same day and same shop as the Sabres of
 Paradise.

 Fade II Black The Dilemma on Elypsia (which has some cool label art)

 there have been so many I can't recall all of them...

 MEK











Re: (313) George Clinton Answers

2002-10-01 Thread sean deason
speaking of writers doing research:
the lastest copy of REMIX mag has an article on the very last page about
Juan Atkins. In it they claim that he and Rick Davis used a Roland R8 on the
Cybotron - Enter album back in 1981.
Maybe I'm no longer clear on my gear timelines, but it seems to me that if
the Roland 808 (with analog drum sounds) was in production in (roughly) 1982
and the 909 (with a mixture of analog and sampled drum sounds) in 1983,
wouldnt the R8, which contains sampled drum sounds only, have followed those
machines years later (especially since it samples sounds from the 808 and
909 machines)?
wow! Juan really was ahead of his time, not only did he make futuristic
music, he even used equipment from the future to do it :^)

sean deason 

 From: marc christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 07:45:09 -0700
 To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) George Clinton Answers
 
 At 11:55 PM +1000 10/1/02, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
 From Derrick's standpoint, I think in interviews he has always been someone
 who carefully thinks about what he says because he knows it's for
 prosperity.
 
 I think the longevity of that one quote has certainly added to May's
 historically-conscious introspection.  Not that he wasn't a
 thoughtful and articulate guy before, but that quote has just been
 beat like a dead horse.
 
 
 Does that quote really annoy
 anyone? I would be interested to know.
 
 The annoying thing about it at this point is that every time i see it
 in print, i ask:
 couldn't they put something fresher in here?
 can't they get a writer who can do a little bit of real *work* on
 their topic?
 
 Imagine how much fun XLR8R would be to read if each and every issue
 had to run that quote just one more time.
 
 I've got little against the quote itself (except that one reading of
 it overemphasizes the specificity of the Kraftwerk influence, which
 Simon Reynolds uses to pretty directly diss detroit).  I object to
 its mass republication-as-oversimplification.
 
 -marc
 



Re: (313) George Clinton Answers

2002-10-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Yeah it seems they do have it a bit screwed up (I thought something was odd
about that article too) -
according to the Vintage Synth website
http://www.vintagesynth.org/roland/r8.shtml the R8 was first available in
'89
This is really poor for a magazine dedicated to the equipment of electronic
(and more focused - dance) music. Maybe a basic phone call/email to him
could have clarified that. Anyway, you'd think they'd know this sh:t or
have someone on staff doing some fact checking.

Sean - do you what drum machine was used?

MEK





   
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speaking of writers doing research:
the lastest copy of REMIX mag has an article on the very last page about
Juan Atkins. In it they claim that he and Rick Davis used a Roland R8 on
the
Cybotron - Enter album back in 1981.
Maybe I'm no longer clear on my gear timelines, but it seems to me that if
the Roland 808 (with analog drum sounds) was in production in (roughly)
1982
and the 909 (with a mixture of analog and sampled drum sounds) in 1983,
wouldnt the R8, which contains sampled drum sounds only, have followed
those
machines years later (especially since it samples sounds from the 808 and
909 machines)?
wow! Juan really was ahead of his time, not only did he make futuristic
music, he even used equipment from the future to do it :^)

sean deason

 From: marc christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 07:45:09 -0700
 To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) George Clinton Answers

 At 11:55 PM +1000 10/1/02, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
 From Derrick's standpoint, I think in interviews he has always been
someone
 who carefully thinks about what he says because he knows it's for
 prosperity.

 I think the longevity of that one quote has certainly added to May's
 historically-conscious introspection.  Not that he wasn't a
 thoughtful and articulate guy before, but that quote has just been
 beat like a dead horse.


 Does that quote really annoy
 anyone? I would be interested to know.

 The annoying thing about it at this point is that every time i see it
 in print, i ask:
 couldn't they put something fresher in here?
 can't they get a writer who can do a little bit of real *work* on
 their topic?

 Imagine how much fun XLR8R would be to read if each and every issue
 had to run that quote just one more time.

 I've got little against the quote itself (except that one reading of
 it overemphasizes the specificity of the Kraftwerk influence, which
 Simon Reynolds uses to pretty directly diss detroit).  I object to
 its mass republication-as-oversimplification.

 -marc








Re: (313) George Clinton Answers

2002-10-01 Thread Scott Vallance
Certainly doesn't annoy me. Makes me imagine music I want to produce... even
if its not an all encompassing definition of techno (not that such a thing
meaningfully exists).

ScottV.


 To begin with, I am not sure how it ended up on that site, but it's kinda
 cool. I did the interview a few months ago for an RB magazine and it
fitted
 the context since he had just performed at the DEMF. He is actually
working
 on a new album of 'techno doo-wop'.
 Just last week I finally remembered to send the quote to a good friend of
 mine in Detroit and he circulated it maybe. I then saw it on a Skruff
 newsletter I got. George had never toured Australia before. I am not even
 sure if he has talked to Australian media before. I knew people here,
 especially younger people, would be interested in his thoughts on techno
 generally (as well as hip-hop) and so that was on my list of questions -
 that quote was a useful device to draw a link.

 George came across as very mellow, and was far from annoyed, he doesn't
seem
 to get annoyed by too much. I don't believe in asking veteran artists
purely
 about their past (he says he doesn't recall much about his anyway) as it
 then assumes people are musuem pieces and have nothing else to offer. If
 anything, that can annoy artists.

 From Derrick's standpoint, I think in interviews he has always been
someone
 who carefully thinks about what he says because he knows it's for
 prosperity. It's more being misquoted that gets to him. The quote is part
of
 techno's mythology, so if it dies, techno dies. Does that quote really
annoy
 anyone? I would be interested to know. I think there's more annoying
things
 - like being marginalised by the likes of Sasha and Digweed, or people
 assuming that if you're techno you will play a certain kind of techno, or
 being musically stereotyped, or whatever.




RE: (313) UR Shocker...

2002-10-01 Thread Chana Goodman

here here


From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org

Subject: RE: (313) UR Shocker...
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:46:05 +0100


 Good Lord, some people just want to twist the facts, Like I
 said no one here
 knows the story nor what took place because of it and I am in
 no postion to
 explain things that were shared with me in confidence.
 If you wish to continue being ignorant and making false
 assumptions about
 things that you have no clue about, then by all means
 continue making an ASS
 out of yourself.


Thats not really too constructive is it ? Maybe if things were / had been
explained then the 'twisting of facts' you describe would not be occuring -
but either way everyone on this this list is entitled to discuss the topic
and give their own opinions. Any speculation thrown into the arena has
arisen through the lack of explanation of the events which took place and
seeing as UR is probably the most prolific label on this list what do you
expect ?

peace,
Marc

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(313) still on the ferox thread

2002-10-01 Thread henrique casanova
who is 4th wave ???
 man this Rudder track is just unbeliaveble!! what a techno song!!




RE: (313) UR Shocker...

2002-10-01 Thread Robert Taylor
Tell us the truth then or I will continue to speculate wildly!
I don't mind making an ass of myself if gets a few 313ers' knickers in a
twist.
Some of you guys need to lighten up and stop taking everything seriously all
the time.


-Original Message-
From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 4:27 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) UR Shocker...


here here

From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) UR Shocker...
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:46:05 +0100


  Good Lord, some people just want to twist the facts, Like I
  said no one here
  knows the story nor what took place because of it and I am in
  no postion to
  explain things that were shared with me in confidence.
  If you wish to continue being ignorant and making false
  assumptions about
  things that you have no clue about, then by all means
  continue making an ASS
  out of yourself.


Thats not really too constructive is it ? Maybe if things were / had been
explained then the 'twisting of facts' you describe would not be occuring -
but either way everyone on this this list is entitled to discuss the topic
and give their own opinions. Any speculation thrown into the arena has
arisen through the lack of explanation of the events which took place and
seeing as UR is probably the most prolific label on this list what do you
expect ?

peace,
Marc

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Re: (313) still on the ferox thread

2002-10-01 Thread J. T.

steve paton ain't it?




From: henrique casanova [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) still on the ferox thread
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:30:38 -0300

who is 4th wave ???
 man this Rudder track is just unbeliaveble!! what a techno song!!



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RE: (313) UR Shocker...

2002-10-01 Thread Langsman, Marc
yeah it all gets bit too serious at times ... looks like this topic hit a
bit of a sore point anyhow

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 01 October 2002 18:34
 To: 'Chana Goodman'; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) UR Shocker...
 
 
 Tell us the truth then or I will continue to speculate wildly!
 I don't mind making an ass of myself if gets a few 313ers' 
 knickers in a
 twist.
 Some of you guys need to lighten up and stop taking 
 everything seriously all
 the time.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 4:27 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) UR Shocker...
 
 
 here here
 
 From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) UR Shocker...
 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:46:05 +0100
 
 
   Good Lord, some people just want to twist the facts, Like I
   said no one here
   knows the story nor what took place because of it and I am in
   no postion to
   explain things that were shared with me in confidence.
   If you wish to continue being ignorant and making false
   assumptions about
   things that you have no clue about, then by all means
   continue making an ASS
   out of yourself.
 
 
 Thats not really too constructive is it ? Maybe if things 
 were / had been
 explained then the 'twisting of facts' you describe would 
 not be occuring -
 but either way everyone on this this list is entitled to 
 discuss the topic
 and give their own opinions. Any speculation thrown into the 
 arena has
 arisen through the lack of explanation of the events which 
 took place and
 seeing as UR is probably the most prolific label on this 
 list what do you
 expect ?
 
 peace,
 Marc
 
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RE: (313) still on the ferox thread

2002-10-01 Thread Robert Taylor
Didn't 4th Wave do Electroluv on Planet E?

-Original Message-
From: henrique casanova [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 4:31 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) still on the ferox thread


who is 4th wave ???
 man this Rudder track is just unbeliaveble!! what a techno song!!



RE: (313) still on the ferox thread

2002-10-01 Thread Colette Lewis
yes it is.

-Original Message-
From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) still on the ferox thread


steve paton ain't it?



From: henrique casanova [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) still on the ferox thread
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:30:38 -0300

who is 4th wave ???
  man this Rudder track is just unbeliaveble!! what a techno song!!


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RE: (313) still on the ferox thread

2002-10-01 Thread rob webb

Robert Taylor:


Didn't 4th Wave do Electroluv on Planet E?


yep, nice record... Planet E was in good form at that time - the Clark 
doublepack, Connection Machine  Gemini 12s... all quality!


more 4th Wave info: http://www.discogs.com/artist/4th_Wave.



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Re: (313) George Clinton Answers

2002-10-01 Thread Cyclone Wehner

 At 11:55 PM +1000 10/1/02, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
From Derrick's standpoint, I think in interviews he has always been someone
who carefully thinks about what he says because he knows it's for
prosperity.

 I think the longevity of that one quote has certainly added to May's
 historically-conscious introspection. Not that he wasn't a
 thoughtful and articulate guy before, but that quote has just been
 beat like a dead horse.

Does that quote really annoy
anyone? I would be interested to know.

 The annoying thing about it at this point is that every time i see it
 in print, i ask:
 couldn't they put something fresher in here?
 can't they get a writer who can do a little bit of real *work* on
 their topic?

I don't know, man. Like I said, I used it as a literary device to link some
ideas together and I had never seen it employed in that context (and context
is everything) before - ie a story on George Clinton that stresses his
influence on and ongoing involvement in contemporary dance musics. I spent
two hours finding the quote, destroying my office in the process. I think I
found it in Dan Sicko's book in the end. Pop culture and journalism rely on
'hooks' as songs do (and even underground records have hooks). A lot of
Derrick's insights are quotatable, he is very clever with words. I can think
of similiarly memorable things Jeff Mills has said, Mike Banks has said,
Juan and Kevin have said, etc. You could say some of Shakespeare's quotes
are played out too. Above all I think the response was fun. George is a fun
guy, even the serious questions he had humourous things to say.


RE: (313) still on the ferox thread

2002-10-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

oh yeah...add that one to my cool finds list. Love that 4th Wave EP.

MEK



   
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ferox thread   
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Robert Taylor:

Didn't 4th Wave do Electroluv on Planet E?

yep, nice record... Planet E was in good form at that time - the Clark
doublepack, Connection Machine  Gemini 12s... all quality!

more 4th Wave info: http://www.discogs.com/artist/4th_Wave.



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(313) my radio show on right now

2002-10-01 Thread plaztikjezuz
my radio show is on right now

www.channelzonline.org

the two (4 hrs. in total) shows consist of several mixes 
by me and one that is a tag team with trent abbe and I

please let me know what you think.

I am also looking for mixes of 313 content if you 
interested please contact me off list.

hope you enjoy it

scotto
lansing, mi.

ps. if you have music you composed and you would like me 
to review it for air play I do accept promos.

delien is in the second show and they gave me a demo

good stuff if you have never heard of them www.delien.com


Re: (313) titonton rushhour `s set track id.

2002-10-01 Thread g
ha... another set that mixes Spastik with a house track.. and scratching
even.
nothing beats derrick carter's Spastik + Glamorous Life mix though.

that mix into Flash is darn nice too.

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From: moog [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:09 AM
Subject: (313) titonton rushhour `s set track id.


 this dude can really rock on the decks.
 on his set at rushhour on 20:29 into the sets start a track with funny
 melody. anyone have any idea?
 http://www.heitlager.com/antal/titonton.ram

 danke
 yair



Re: (313) still on the ferox thread

2002-10-01 Thread henrique casanova

- Original Message - 
From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: (313) still on the ferox thread


 steve paton ain't it?

is he from detroit?




Re: (313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread Michel Rijnders
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 15:25, jurren baars wrote:
 3)just like a lot of other [313]list members i went to amsterdam last friday 
 to hear brett dancer and larry heard play some records at paradisco3000. and 
 had a great time! brett was already playing when i got in at around 1.30, 
 and he played a quality set, with almost only classics, from ymo, to model 
 500, 'washing machine','altered states' and many more.larry came after him 
 around 3.00, and [to me] never really got going, maybe it was because brett 
 dancer played quite a hard set, so going deep after that, and keeping the 
 dancefloor filled at the same time was difficult. by 4.00 a lot of people 
 had allready left, and that's not really helping the dj either. but he still 
 played some great tracks, he even played 'energy flash', not a record i had 
 expected to hear that night.

I tend to disagree: I found Brett Dancer's set quite boring, partly
because of all the classics; I guess I've heard no ufo's (at least)
1 time to many ;o) Can't remember hearing washing machine, he did play
play it loud though which for me was the highlight of his set.

I really enjoyed Larry's set: great variety of moods and grooves, danced
the whole way through (the last time that happened was more than a year
ago) and his set felt as a whole instead of just some trax after another
as happens with most sets.

Cheers,
Michel





(313) Track Id

2002-10-01 Thread James Philbin
Hi,

Can anyone please ID this tune: ftp://213.121.127.12/JeffMills.mp3

Its from a Jeff Mills set

Cheers,
James


(313) Laura Gavoor...

2002-10-01 Thread Tosh Cooey
Somebody please tell me I am only hearing a bad joke about Laura.

Tosh

-- 
Twelve Hundred Group
http://www.1200group.com/


Re: (313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread Michel Rijnders
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 20:13, Michel Rijnders wrote:
 because of all the classics; I guess I've heard no ufo's (at least)
 1 time to many ;o) 

the same goes for night drive (thru babylon) which is what Brett
Dancer playing :o)




Re: (313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

At 20:13 +0200 01-10-2002, Michel Rijnders wrote:

I tend to disagree: I found Brett Dancer's set quite boring, partly
because of all the classics; I guess I've heard no ufo's (at least)
1 time to many ;o) Can't remember hearing washing machine, he did play
play it loud though which for me was the highlight of his set.


Brett Dancer his set was a bit rougher compared to Larry his set. I 
can't choose which one was better, i really loved both their sets. I 
like the eclectic choice of records from Brett, he even played some 
old Armando records, Octave One and YMO and mixing it with the usual 
house tracks. I loved it when he played Can You Feel It just before 
Larry started playing. Nice to see the whole room went wild when he 
dropped that tune.


Larry ohis set was great as well, i did not like his first records 
but his set kept building and he dropped the deepest tracks and 
energy flash in the middle of those kinda tracks was a real surprise. 
but it sounded nice. I really enjoyed it, a really deep set. Another 
brilliant night from the Rushhour people!



I really enjoyed Larry's set: great variety of moods and grooves, danced
the whole way through (the last time that happened was more than a year
ago) and his set felt as a whole instead of just some trax after another
as happens with most sets.


--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: (313) 3 posts in one

2002-10-01 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message -
From: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:25 PM
Subject: (313) 3 posts in one



 1)last week i asked about everyone's favorite label art, this week it's
time
 for your favorite sleeve. now most of the house/techno records i buy
 nowadays, come in a plain black or white sleeve, but there are a few nice
 exceptions to the rule. one of my my favorite sleeves is not [313] but
 [312]:

Patrick Pulsinger's 'Porno'. I'm not sure if the vinyl is as developed as
the cover art on the CD (with fold-out comic strip-esque storyline). If so,
it's one of my favorite covers. :)

Tristan
=
Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com
Music: http://www.mp313.com
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: (313) still on the ferox thread

2002-10-01 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message -
From: rob webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:47 PM
Subject: RE: (313) still on the ferox thread


 Robert Taylor:

 Didn't 4th Wave do Electroluv on Planet E?

 yep, nice record... Planet E was in good form at that time - the Clark
 doublepack, Connection Machine  Gemini 12s... all quality!

 more 4th Wave info: http://www.discogs.com/artist/4th_Wave.

So it sounds like it's time for my semi-annual question then. When will we
get to hear something new from him? No one ever knows the answer to this
question. :(

Thanks,

Tristan




Re: (313) George Clinton Answers

2002-10-01 Thread Otto
Cyclone Wehner wrote:

[on the infamous 'elevator'-quote] 
 I spent
 two hours finding the quote, destroying my office in the process. I think I
 found it in Dan Sicko's book in the end. 

The oldest source I could come across with that quote is the inlay to
the Retro-Techno compilation on Network from 1991 or does someone have a
citation that predates that?

Totally different topic:

 Pop culture and journalism rely on 'hooks' as songs do. 

I agree that they do, but do they *need* to?
I sometimes wonder if 'we' are not underestimating the audience in
making everything as accessible as possible...

Otto




(313) Track ID

2002-10-01 Thread James Philbin
Sorry, now changed to ftp://217.39.100.35/JeffMills.mp3

Cheers,
James


Re: (313) titonton rushhour `s set track id.

2002-10-01 Thread Trevor Wilkes
The track he mixes into Flash I recognize...but can't think what it is, so
it's either something i dont have but want or something I have and have lost
over the years in my stacks.Anyone help me with an artist and/or title
to remind me? I seem to recall it maybe being on Dance Mania?!!?


Trevor Wilkes
- Original Message -
From: g [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: moog [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: (313) titonton rushhour `s set track id.


 ha... another set that mixes Spastik with a house track.. and scratching
 even.
 nothing beats derrick carter's Spastik + Glamorous Life mix though.

 that mix into Flash is darn nice too.

 - Original Message -
 From: moog [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:09 AM
 Subject: (313) titonton rushhour `s set track id.


  this dude can really rock on the decks.
  on his set at rushhour on 20:29 into the sets start a track with funny
  melody. anyone have any idea?
  http://www.heitlager.com/antal/titonton.ram
 
  danke
  yair






Re: (313) Laura Gavoor...

2002-10-01 Thread glyph1001

No...I'm afraid its true. An aneurysm caused it.

Thoughts and prayers to her family  friends.

g.

Tosh Cooey wrote:


Somebody please tell me I am only hearing a bad joke about Laura.

Tosh

 






Re: (313) titonton rushhour `s set track id.

2002-10-01 Thread g
the second track after Flash (but you can still hear Flash, i think) is a
Dance Mania record: Eric Martin - Fire Alarm.
but that's probably not what you mean. ;)

- Original Message -
From: Trevor Wilkes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: (313) titonton rushhour `s set track id.


 The track he mixes into Flash I recognize...but can't think what it is, so
 it's either something i dont have but want or something I have and have
lost
 over the years in my stacks.Anyone help me with an artist and/or title
 to remind me? I seem to recall it maybe being on Dance Mania?!!?


 Trevor Wilkes
 - Original Message -
 From: g [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: moog [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) titonton rushhour `s set track id.


  ha... another set that mixes Spastik with a house track.. and scratching
  even.
  nothing beats derrick carter's Spastik + Glamorous Life mix though.
 
  that mix into Flash is darn nice too.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: moog [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:09 AM
  Subject: (313) titonton rushhour `s set track id.
 
 
   this dude can really rock on the decks.
   on his set at rushhour on 20:29 into the sets start a track with funny
   melody. anyone have any idea?
   http://www.heitlager.com/antal/titonton.ram
  
   danke
   yair
 
 
 



(313) Video

2002-10-01 Thread Jernej Marusic
A bit of self promotion :)

I just found out the video for my track Emergon from Idei Lahesna
CD/Deflection EP has been put on german Spex online page, so if anyone
is interested in seeing it, go to:
http://www.spex.de/article.xml?vpID=5lpp=0lsort=0aid=2690SID=103350
5725_1b921a9ea2ad
(the video was also done by myself).


Jernej
www.soundoflj.com/octex




Re: (313) Laura Gavoor...

2002-10-01 Thread g
Sounds trite, but I was just thinking the other day about how I hadn't
spoken to her in a while.  What a shock.  And a reminder.

Her electric personality, her endless sense of humor, and her giant thirst
for life will be dearly missed.

 - GMM

- Original Message -
From: glyph1001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Laura Gavoor...


 No...I'm afraid its true. An aneurysm caused it.

 Thoughts and prayers to her family  friends.

 g.

 Tosh Cooey wrote:

 Somebody please tell me I am only hearing a bad joke about Laura.
 
 Tosh
 
 
 




Re: (313) Laura Gavoor...

2002-10-01 Thread ::\)
fuk.

I was just informed that she passed away.

my condolances to her family and friends.  there is too much death in the
electronic music community lately :((


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From: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Laura Gavoor...


 I dont know what this rumor is, but it sounds bad.

 I hope shes alright.

 -Joe


 - Original Message -
 From: glyph1001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:00 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) Laura Gavoor...


  No...I'm afraid its true. An aneurysm caused it.
 
  Thoughts and prayers to her family  friends.
 
  g.
 
  Tosh Cooey wrote:
 
  Somebody please tell me I am only hearing a bad joke about Laura.
  
  Tosh
  
  
  
 
 



Re: (313) Video

2002-10-01 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince
Last week on Invisible Cracker Mom:

JM A bit of self promotion :)

JM I just found out the video for my track Emergon from Idei Lahesna
JM CD/Deflection EP has been put on german Spex online page, so if anyone
JM is interested in seeing it, go to:
JM http://www.spex.de/article.xml?vpID=5lpp=0lsort=0aid=2690SID=103350
JM 5725_1b921a9ea2ad
JM (the video was also done by myself).

I like the wide aspect ratio you've used.  Good job on the editing as
well.

-
Brian balistic Prince
http://www.bprince.com - art and techno
Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon.