Re: (313) hip hop sampling detroit (was: Brandy/producers of pop that go the extra mile)

2002-12-29 Thread Edwin Houghton
the original from J-lo/Beatnuts is:

Light, Enoch Orchestra
Disco Disque Project 3: (? 1975)
* Hi-Jack
Jennifer Lopez's Jenny From The Block

these may (?) be cases where the sample actually comes from the 2nd
generation track and not the original, and therefore it's not listed even if
it's cleared and some royalties are passed down the line...


on 12/27/02 12:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, The Armchair DJ wrote:
 
 
 and don't forget that in the early days of producing,
 dre sampled almost the
 entirety of jj fad's blame it on the musik (off
 1988's supersonic lp)
 from model 500's nite drive thru babylon.
 
 brian
 
 ***speaking of which, the last time i saw sir mix a
 lot's baby got back on a new compilation, i checked
 the credit and there is *still* no mention of the fact
 that it steals the beat from technicolor.  i know
 atkins knows about this, so why don't these sorts of
 things get rectified in the credits in the future? not
 detroit related, but the usage of bob james' take me
 to the mardi gras (via run dmc's peter Piper) isn't
 credited on missy's work it.  the beatnuts have been
 mentioning that jennifer lopez' jenny from the block
 samples them (what it is? i can't remember the exact
 title), but, though there's 3 sample credits on the
 single (including using bdp's south bronx), there's
 no mention of the beatnuts.  i think one of the other
 credits is probably for the song that beat nuts also
 sampled that they're crying foul about.  which would be
 a lack of originality, but hardly stealing from the
 'nuts, and par for the course with the way all of the
 jlo tracks are produced (using set it off, using i've
 got five on it, etc, etc). i hope the 'nuts credited
 the sample they used that jlo also did, otherwise
 they're just calling attention to themselves and likely
 to get themselves in trouble.  andrew
 
 
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 From: Matthew MacQueen
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 the extra mile
 
 
 
 To be honest I don't have a hell of a lot of respect
 for Dr Dre.
 
 me neither. Except for surgery in 1984 when he was
 with the World Class
 Wreckin' Crew
 
 He'll prescribe for you, his potent elixir
 Two turntables, speakers, and a mixer
 He'll rock your party wherever you be
 Calling Dr. Dre to surgery
 
 LA is the place for you to be
 To witness Dr Dre in surgery
 He has a Ph.D in mixology
 to cut on the wheels so viciously.
 
 
 This cut which was an old WJLB Wizard favorite! ...
 bringing it back to 313,
 however tenuously in whatever decade.
 
 peace,
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Re: (313) the whole joe strummer

2002-12-29 Thread MadR
thanks for the story 
I only know magnificient dance from the larry levan
mixes but this guy did a lot op bridge gaps
It's funny because a rock guy at my work played it
once, and nornmally he's doesn't like what I play but
this track we both love  

Mad'R

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(313) seems much of the same to me.. but you might like it.

2002-12-29 Thread Maarten Baute
VARIOUS mixed by JUAN ATKINS-Timeless (incl. Model 500, Eddie Fowlkes, DJ
Bone, Infiniti, etc.)
CD: Metroplex US MCD 01-2


Track listing

CD
M500-Future
AUDIOTECH-Phase Two
MODEL 500-Time Space Transmat
CHANNEL ONE-Technicolor
AARON CARL-Down (Electro mix)
CHAOS-Find Your Particular Space In Time
X-Ray-Lock it Down
ERIC TRAVIS-Techno Drivers
MODEL 600-Update (UR version)
GERALD MITCHELL-Celestial Highways
MODEL 500-The Chase
EDDIE FOWLKES-Goodbye Kiss
MODEL 500-No UFO's
MODEL 500-OK Corral
SHAKE-Mindless Entertainment
MODEL 500-Off To Battle
INFINITI-Game On
DJ BONE-The Haunting
MODEL 500-Starlight
AUDIOTECH-Techno City '95
MODEL 5003MB-Jazz Is The Teacher



RE: (313) plastikman live

2002-12-29 Thread The Armchair DJ
actually, now that i think about it, there's one more plastikman track that
i've heard but don't have. it was a RealAudio stream on the previous version
of the m-nus web site - the original blue one. as i remember, it wasn't
labelled by name but was included as one of two links to bonus tracks not
found on the album. one of the links played afrika and the other track was
this one. anyone know what i'm talking about and, if so, what the name of
the track is and if it appeared anywhere?

brian

-Original Message-
From: The Armchair DJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:37 AM
To: elkay; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kenneth taylor
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) plastikman live


there are 4 live tracks out there that i know of:

--slak/untitled choir - 1996 plastikprodukt 3 cd - recorded sept 23, 1995
at transcendance, toronto, canada
--slac/kriket - 1997 sickness/panikattack 5 cd - recorded at spastik
--the aforementioned pp001 - late '99 or early '00 muzik cd comp - from a
1994 peel live show
--intro/plasticene/untitled acid fill/unedited drum fill - 1998 consumed
japan edition bonus 3 cd - recorded at the liquid room, tokyo, on aug 4,
1995

other non-album plastikman ephemera worth tracking down:

--freek - 1994 plastique b-side recently remixed for de9: closer to the edit
--elektriks - 1994 musik outtake released on the plus 8 vinyl 2x12 and the
netWorks.1 comp
--kiropraktor - 1994 musik outtake released on the plus 8 2x12 and novamute
3x12
--old skool - 1994 musik outtake released only on the novamute 3x12
--hump - from the first trance atlantic 2xcd comp
--krossover - fuse vs. plastikman - 1999 new year's 3 cd giveaway -
recorded 1993 i think
--afrika (test kut) - 1998 limited 12
--pk and pkamb - 2000 limited 12
--psykik - artifakts outtake released on the 1998 japanese artifakts cd,
sony japan's 1999 future electronica comp and the 2002 kontakt giveaway 3
cd
--konstant - artifakts outtake from the 2002 kontakt giveaway 3 cd

if anybody's interested in mp3s of the above, hit me privately.

as far as i know, they are the only tracks that have been released under the
plastikman moniker that AREN'T available on the standard cd editions of
sheet one, recycled plastik, musik, sickness/panikattack, consumed and
artifakts. somebody please do correct me if i'm wrong as i'm an admittedly
dorky richie spotter.

of course there are plenty of other hard-to-find richie tracks such as
+8069, the sequel to +8068, which was released only as a promo to a few of
his friends. but those aren't branded as plastikman tracks.

--brian

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Subject: RE: (313) plastikman live


I have a copy of this, will try to get it up somewhere in mp3 format if
anyone is interested.

Let me know.

lk

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 Muzik Magazine  BBC Radio1 Present One Live  cat no: MUZIK BBC 99
 contains 'Plastikman - PP001', recorded on the John Peel show 14 July,
 1994

 pretty sure this was included with a Muzik mag so i have no idea if you
 can still get it

 On Thursday, December 19, 2002, at 08:56 AM, kenneth taylor wrote:

 
  there's a nice live Plastikman Peel Session and i think a track or two
  is available on an older Muzik magazine comp. can't quite recall
  offhand. it's out there though
 
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