Re: (313) Metro Times: Detroit

2004-11-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
 Original Message --
From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>no offense intended, just dont need Cox Jr.  putting words in my 
mouth
>
>"the other guy,"

sorry, i couldnt remember who send the original and since it was 
edited out i couldnt just grab it from there. 

anyway, i dont see why "jeff mills talks about music like a pill-
kid" and "richie hawtin makes crap music" are not equivalently 
irritating statements. i usually keep my disdain for the man quiet 
until people start talking sh*t on mills and comparing him to mr 
progression or whatever it is you think hawtin does on his 
nonsense that he makes these days. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


(313) Magda (and Mr. C) in Hollywood tomorrow night (Sunday, 11/14)

2004-11-13 Thread Greg Earle

[Apologies to the rest of you who aren't the half-dozen LA readers]

Sunday November 14
SPIDER CLUB

Intro To Frequency

MR. C [Plink Plonk, The End, UK]
MAGDA vs TROY PIERCE [Plus 8, M-Nus; Cool Guys]
ARCHITECTS OF SOUND [Avaland, LA]
JUSTIN SLOE [Robots, Come Uppance, Traffic]

"this introduction was arranged by direct request from unknown 
operatives

 dancing and other forms of interaction encouraged"

9-3am | $10 | 21+
Located at: Avalon @ 1735 North Vine St Hollywood, CA 90028
info: http://www.avalonhollywood.com/

(The Spider Club is actually located inside/above Avalon; it's not
 Avalon itself)

- Greg



(313) naw toronto record release party 10/19/04

2004-11-13 Thread Neil Wiernik

SYNCRO FRIDAYS PRESENTS

NOVEMBER 19 2004

naw (Montreal, Noise Factory Records)
LIVE P.A. + RELEASE PARTY for Green Nights Orange Days

Montreal's Neil Wiernik (a.k.a. naw) has been an instrumental force in
the Canadian electronic, techno, experimental and ambient music scene for
the past 10 years. Known to push the boundaries of his musical form, naw
has released on labels including Noise Factory, Complot, Clevermusic,
Piehead, and A/S Systems. With the new Green Nights Orange Days, naw has
come into his own sound, blending dub-tech rhythms with gorgeous
abstractions and heavy-hitting beats. Here, he crafts a special, steadily
building live P.A., aimed at our hearts, brains and bodies.
Expect to be moved.

www.noisefactoryrecords.com

Live P.A. begins at 11:30pm.

NO COVER.

at
Andy Poolhall
489 College Street
416.923.5300

resident DJs
DENISE BENSON savour. CKLN `Mental Chatter'
+ ANDREW ALLSGOOD fascination. CKLN 'Bruckbeat Radio'


(313) U/CTRL TOUR nov 20-27th 2004

2004-11-13 Thread Neil Wiernik

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

U/CTRL MICRO-TOUR 2004
FEATURING:
* ANDREW DUKE - HALIFAX - BIP HOP RECORDS
* NAW - MONTREAL - NOISE FACTORY RECORDS
* AKUMU - TORONTO - SPIDER RECORDS
MEDIA CONTACT: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
U/CTRL
ELECTRONIC MICRO-TOUR 2004
NOVEMBER 20-27, 2004
A SHOWCASE OF CANADIAN LAPTOP TALENT
HTTP://WWW.SPIDERRECORDS.COM/UCTRL
Hamilton * Toronto * London * St. Catharines * Guelph * Ottawa * Qu?bec
City * Montr?al

The inaugural U/CTRL Tour (November 20 - 27, 2004) brings live
electronic music to eight Canadian cities in eight nights. Showcasing
three of Canada's top laptop artists, U/CTRL presents cutting-edge
electronic music ranging from ambient/glitch to IDM to deep, dubby
techno, accompanied by multi-media projections and original video
art.

U/CTRL performers Andrew Duke, NAW and Akumu are each accomplished
independent electronic artists with multiple releases and remixes on
labels around the world. Live, they produce customized sound
environments for deep listening that incorporate a variety of
techniques, and improvisations. For U/CTRL, they will perform live solo
sets highlighting fresh material from new and upcoming releases.

U/CTRL takes electronic music out of the clubs and studios and into
bars, cafes and gallery spaces across Ontario and Quebec, bringing new
sounds to new listeners.

About the performers:
ANDREW DUKE (Halifax)
Producer, DJ and remixer (Chicks on Speed, Pink Floyd) whose
international releases have been praised in the Wire and Exclaim. His
upcoming release is on Montreal's PetiteSono Records.

NAW (Montreal)
a.k.a. Neil Wiernik, who joins the tour in support of his new full-length
release, Green Nights Orange Days (Noise Factory Records.) Purveyor of
experimental Dub-tech rhythms, sound design and manipulation, he has been
a force in the Canadian electronic, techno and ambient music scenes for 10
years. A co-founder and member of Montreal's Phoniq collective, he has just
returned from a European mini-tour.

AKUMU (Toronto)
Ambient sounds and shadowy beats with digital video manipulations from
Toronto's Deane Hughes (Thrive/Alchemy). The latest Akumu CD, Fluxes
(Spider Records) was composed in Central America and has been compared
to Tim Hecker by Montreal's ICI magazine and called "soundtrack to an
imaginary David Cronenberg Movie" by Toronto's eye weekly.

TOUR DATES
Saturday. Nov 20 -- Hamilton -- The Casbah (Early show: 6pm)
Sunday Nov 21 -- Toronto -- Tequila Lounge (presented by Stained Prod)
Monday Nov 22 -- London -- The Last Drop (with DJ Phonecard)
Tuesday Nov 23 -- St. Catharines -- The Mikado (with DJ )
Wednesday Nov 24 -- Guelph -- News Caf? (presented by Linx Industries)
Thursday Nov 25 -- Ottawa -- Agora/Universe City (5th Year Anniversary)
Friday Nov 26 -- Qu?bec City -- Galerie Rouje (presented by pertinence)
Saturday Nov 27 -- Montr?al -- Esperanza (presented by Phoniq)

Music Samples (MP3s) at the Tour website:
HTTP://WWW.SPIDERRECORDS.COM/UCTRL

- ARTIST BIOGRAPHIES -

Andrew Duke
Andrew Duke has been composing, producing, remixing, and performing
music since 1987. ?His music is consistently referred to by the media
and listeners alike as continuously presenting a unique and distinct
sound; quotes: ?"Andrew Duke creates music that sounds like it has a
reason for living" (The Wire, UK); "He often seems to be inventing new
genres" (Cyclic Defrost, Australia); "Andrew Duke renews my faith in
the world of slow-mo techno" (Igloomag/Microview, USA); "Andrew Duke
reinvents himself almost with every release" (All Music Guide, USA);
"Andrew Duke puts his soul into his experimental music" (The Halifax
Daily News, Canada); "The man behind the East Coast electronic music
scene, Duke displays a different facet of his skill with every release"
(Exclaim, Canada).?His Sprung album (released on France's Bip-Hop label
in 2002) was nominated for Album of the Year (Electronica) at the 2003
annual Canadian Independent Music Awards. ?He has been commissioned for
42+ remixes (for artists such as Aaliyah, Pink Floyd, Chicks On Speed,
Heavy Meadows, and David Kristian), has licensed 115+ tracks to
compilations, and toured his live PA across Canada.
Artist Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

NAW
Montreal native Neil Wiernik began his explorations in electronic music
making as early as 1988. Known to push the boundaries of his musical
form, from designing new or manipulating existing sound-making
devices and software, to creative uses of production environments and
sound sources, naw?s music is a blend of sound manipulation/design,
experimental music and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound
quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this
artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental
laptop artist. He combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound
and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and
other electronic laptop oriented musics. Neil has released mus

Re: (313) These Go up to 11

2004-11-13 Thread KiDD*e*
No i was talking about the original track on the Green Album.
This vocal edit is very nice too it has this New Order or Underworld touch,
but the original has got a higher 'magnitude', to me :)

By the way i agree with your comments on the "Rococo EP", its really pretty.
This swinging loud baseline and theses weird strings that sound like coming
from an unknown oriantal/asian land, make it unique as Thomas and Matt said.

- KiDDy.


- Original Message - 
From: "Cobert, Gwendal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ThReE-oNe-ThReE" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: (313) These Go up to 11


Yeah, love that Sabres track as well, maybe I prefer Inter-Lergen though..
Re, Orbital, I guess you're talking about the Belfast/Wasted mix that's
something like 10 minutes long ?
Gwendal

> -Message d'origine-
> De : KiDD*e* [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyé : Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:30 PM
> À : ThReE-oNe-ThReE
> Objet : RE: (313) These Go up to 11
>
> Olala, i looove this one...
> It used to be "our" track ...me and my girlfriend.
> Its a whole fairy world, so magic.
> The kind of track that inevitably bring tears to my eyes.
>
> My choice would be :
> Orbital - "Midnight", followed by "Belfast".
>
> - KiDDy.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Matt Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Martin Dust"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 (E-mail)" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 5:12 PM
> Subject: RE: (313) These Go up to 11
> >
> > but my all time fav I guess is Sabres of Paradise - Smokebelch II





Re: (313) Metro Times: Detroit

2004-11-13 Thread /0
as much as I like mills, he talks about his job and the music like a 
pill-kid


people, this is dance music, not mozart or concept-sound

no offense intended, just dont need Cox Jr.  putting words in my mouth

"the other guy,"


- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Metro Times: Detroit



-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


ok- we get it, you don't like hawtin.

can the rest of us have a conversation now?

sheesh


i dont see why the other guy making blatantly irritating
generalizations about jeff mills is okay but if i say the same
about hawtin its not a discussion?

tom


andythepooh.com









Re: (313) Nice mix site with Detroit/Warp/RePHLeX/old school flava

2004-11-13 Thread Fred Heutte
I'm impressed, Greg.  That set list is all over the map even
for a shameless genre-surfer like me :)

Ministry, Sharivari, the Slits (yay), Autechre, Bohannon,
I:Cube, Ultravox, CV, muZiq . . . I'm down with it!

fh




RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-13 Thread James Hurlbut
An annoying problem I have with Live .asd files is when you burn them to a 
cd and the burned filename gets truncated because of the filename length 
restrictions of the cd format the .wav file won't read the .asd file when 
you copy the file back to your hard drive and you have to rewarp it. Of 
course the answer is to keep the filenames short, but I like to include the 
artist, track title and label in my filenames to make it easier for 
sorting. Ableton really needs to set it up so you can copy warp markers 
between clips easily.


Even better would be if they released the file specification so people 
could write .asd warper utilities. Then I can finally realize my dream of 
warping tracks on my pocket pc while I'm at work!


Jamie

At 07:49 AM 11/12/2004, you wrote:

>On a side note, when I pull in tracks that I've already warped in other
sets, the warp markers don't seem to show >up, and I still have to rewarp
them. Am I doing something wrong? Usually the way I do it is copy the .wav
and .asd >file into the directory I use for the set, and Ableton shows a
symbol that seems to imply it recognizes the .asd >file, but when I pull it
in - no warp.

David.

Is there a possibility you're saving/moving/copying them as 'read only'
files?
they don't work then for some reason - not sure why.

But you SHOULD definitely be able to save them and use them whenever.

Maybe others might know more?

Alex
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RE: (313) Magick Times: Detroit

2004-11-13 Thread yussel
i'll agree with all that. while not knowledgable enough about philosophers
to take each to task, it definately was pretentious. if you can't relate
your points to the reader, than there's no point of writing it. maybe
there's a point i'm not knowledgable enough to get, maybe there's a point
but it's just not well expressed, or maybe there's no point and it's just
intellectual diareaha. but you should always write for your reader, and i
think this was over the top for the metro times. but what the hell do i
know- i learned how to write at the real detroit school ;)

anyways- there may be a point to the fast and furious deadline concept.
while sitting in the airport in frankfurt waiting for my flight out of
germany, i probably wrote my berlin/hawtin article 20 times in my head,
each one more fantastic than the last. i believe at one point i even
pondered the potential of writing the entire article withou mentioning
hawtin by name, as i felt like the children playing on the giant spaceship
in the middle of the food court (yes- it was actually there, not a sleep
deprived hallucination) more aptly encapsulated my experience. time is
almost always essential for proper internal editing.

but hey- the metrotimes is read by over 100,000 people in detroit, plus
i'm sure thousands have read this article online. i won't get down on
someone for 'myth making.' it certainly perpetuates the culture more
effectively than a jaded 'duh- all djs do that.' A good music journalist
should make there subject sound like the most
important/intelligent/hedonistic/outstanding/debauched thing on the
planet. that's what drags people in. what's the other option- insipid
tabloid emptiness? talk about what he was wearing and dating? does anyone
need to know that magda's bathroom has a heated towel rack?

i'm babbling now.

ok- later




On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Tristan Watkins wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 12 November 2004 20:06
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (313) Magick Times: Detroit
> >
> > Austin Osman Spare called this a state of "neither neither" -
> > a state of mind where the internal chatter is silenced and a
> > strange kind of auto-pilot takes over. This can often happen
> > if you drive the same route to work everyday - you arrive not
> > even aware of how complete the journey was, let allow all the
> > internal instructions needed to drive car.
>
> Yeah, exactly. This is what I was talking about in my post yesterday. That
> you can get to 'the zone' or whatever you want to call that immersive state
> through lots of different ways, not just through DJing.
>
> > I just went back and re-read the quote. interestingly, only
> > half the later half is a direct quote, the previous paragraph
> > being the writer's explanation of the concept, therefore
> > highly suspect...
>
> I was never trying to discredit what Hawtin was on about. I was just trying
> to dilute the importance the author gave to it. I mean the dude uses this
> fairly banal observation about the creative process as the starting point
> for his tirade about Berlin being the mecca of the arts, citing loads of
> crap about Hegel, Kant, Negri, etc. If you're looking at two hundred years
> of a city's history, you're bound to find loads of important
> artistic/philospohical contributors, without extending that laundry list of
> Germans to people who never lived there (like Nietzsche for one). I mean do
> we really need a reminder of how many important philosophers came from
> Germany? It's philosophical name-dropping at its worst because the content
> is never put to use, except for a crappy paragraph on Hegel, who could never
> be summarized out of context.
>
> I just thought it was a tenuous place to begin the exploration of the import
> of electronic music to art globally, and pretty non-unique to Berlin. He
> could've just said "Berlin's cool because it's got loads of clubbers who
> love good music and lots of really good DJs live there", but that's not a
> very interesting story (albeit true). Am I the only one that thought it was
> excessively long given that it had hardly any coherent focus? A couple of
> bits thrown in at the end about the DJs other than Hawtin for what? Because
> the journalist got time with them too?
>
> Sorry... I never meant to rip this thing to shreds, it just seemed like it
> could've used some more time and insight. Conversely, the dude probably got
> the thing out on time under tight pressure, whereas my Movement report is
> not as long, took me two months to write/edit and is only now about to see
> the light of day.
>
> Tristan
> ===
> http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
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>
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