(313) vague terrain - sat. april 29th w/ noah pred, naw b. kawula
Hello Friends, This is just a brief note regarding the April vague terrain event. This month we are very excited to be hosting the first Toronto live performance of BC-expat and DJ-about-the-town Noah Pred. Joining Noah will be dub minimal techno newcomer b. kawula, vague terrain residents naw and DJ ether.mann and live video courtesy of mantissa. It should be a stimulating night of minimal, melodic, and dub techno and video. related downloads: b. kawula studio track - http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/archives/mp3/multitude.mp3 noah pred dj set (hz event/april 1st) - http://noahpred.com/audio/mixes/dj/npred_hertz_dj-mix.mp3 saturday april 29th... noah pred - http://www.metapathrecordings.com / http://www.fukhouse.ca/ naw - vague terrain / http://noisefactoryrecords.com / http://www.phoniq.net b. kawula - http://www.bitrockalumnae.com/ dj / ether.mann - vague terrain / http://www.serialconsign.com video / mantissa - http://www.mantissa.ca extensive artist information at http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/events.html art bar.gladstone hotel 1214 queen street west toronto.canada $5 / 9pm - 3am -- We've also launched a new discussion list vaguediscuss, which picks up where the (now defunct) phoniqlist left off. Vaguediscuss is a mailing list dedicated to themes related to new media art, with a North American focus. Ideally, over time it will become a means for the networking of musicians, artist, curators, and commentators to share information, promote events, and engage in general discourse related to technology, art, and culture. More information about vaguediscuss is available at: http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/mailing.html We hope to see you out on the 29th, thanks for taking the time to listen to what we are up to. Greg Smith Neil Wiernik http://www.vagueterrain.net
(313) in other news... (was: detroit sold for scrap)
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Re: (313) 69 - puntang EP
Well said. His music sometimes is kinda head music. But with a lots of energy and pure instinct too. Carl Craig is not a formulaic techno man who makes a couple of good tracks in the zeitgeist and neither a intelectual wannabe without any punch or originality. He can take me to primitive sounds of black music originality and to the sophisticated soundscapes at the same time. Sometimes i think i can hear marvin gaye or sam cooke through the patterns. Kw On 05/04/2006, at 02:12, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 4/4/06, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolute prescious material from planet-e. Carl Craig is a top artist in his genre. Compared to any artist in any genre - in my opinion. honestly, i agree with you. the sheer amount of material he has released that is completely timeless and classic is up there with anyone, miles davis, john coltrane, parliament, prince, the beatles, bob marley, philip glass, brian eno, etc. i think he should be considered one of the greatest musicians of our time, anything less would be an insult to him and to techno/house/whatever music in general. tom
Re: (313) CD Mixers
All right. I respect your personal opinion and your option for using turntables to control digital music. I was expressing my personal opinion. Sorry if it was in a imperative way. :) But, well... I do turntables. And love it. When i see digital music, i see an oportunity to mix them in a different way. An oportunity to learn and experiment with a different method. That's really a personal choice. Kw On 05/04/2006, at 05:13, Tristan Watkins wrote: - Original Message - From: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: Re: (313) CD Mixers If you want to do what turntables do, damn, put a real vinyl record on and do your thing, Why? Why not save your back and buy more good music by purchasing it digitally while keeping the interface that you like? I'm fully aware that other software does more than a turntable, but I don't particularly need any of that stuff, and I'm happiest with the interface that I've spent 14 years learning. Should I take up the piano if I'm a sax player, just because I can play chords? Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) CD Mixers
Simon, I respect your opinion and you way too. I think what i said answering Tristan's post is quite what i would said answering your post. cheers Kw On 05/04/2006, at 00:42, Simon Hindle wrote: Hmmm, it's a funny one really. My flatmate bought a final scratch recently and I must say that while beforehand I was quite ambivalent towards a 'scratch' solution that now I'm seriously considering buying a FS unit. There is something quite nice about being able to use turntables as the control surface, and this really has nothing to do with whether or not 'records is the only way to play tunes' - I play ableton sets every now and then, and use CDs quite happily with no sense of stigma. I guess it might have something to do with records being what I'm the most used to, and therefore comfortable with, but I really do enjoy using FS to play digital files more than any other method. That being said, Traktor DJ Studio 3 is bloody amazing software. You can use it with FS2 but even in standalone mode it's wicked. It has some really cool effects (that are tons better than DJ-mixer effects boxes) and brilliant looping features and you can run 4 decks at once with it. So I guess that even though my heart loves final scratch, if anyone was looking for a solution for playing digital files I would recommend Traktor DJ Studio 3 above them all - above CD decks, above final scratch, above ableton even. It's less than US$300 as well so it's easily the most affordable. And you don't even need a mixer. Couple it with the Behringer BCR2000 controller for lots of hands-on knob-twiddling and you're laughing. Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/04/2006 1:14 pm I agree with you. I hate people trying to reproduce the perfect saxofone sound in a synth. God damn it, call a saxofone player. Why use serato or final scratch? If your music is in a digital format, you can use a large range of softwares to do virtualy everything when it comes to mixing, beat matching or whatever. Why stay tied to the limited possibilities of a turntable? If you want to do what turntables do, damn, put a real vinyl record on and do your thing, Finally, let me say: i'm a turntable dj. I like turntables, i do the turntable style thing. But if i go digital, like songs in a hard disk, i'll not limit myself to a turntable. CDJ is usefull for me to make some loops, play things that require great amount of pitch up or down (like +/- 16) with master tempo. There a lot of DJs using final scratch and serato just to show up in a glamour vinyl style without giving up the confort of carrying just a laptop. That makes no sense to me. I like music more than i like equipment. Kw On 04/04/2006, at 10:36, Kent Williams wrote: Given what these things cost, I'm not sure why one wouldn't just get Traktor on a laptop -- it's a much more flexible, easier to way to mix. That being said, I love mixing on the old Denon DN 2000s, because they were really simple. Find your cue point once, instead of over and over like with records, then drop the track in and tweak tempo. I also liked picking up the controller in one arm and tweaking with the other hand. People would ask me what instrument I was playing. Both Final Scratch and the fancy CD players with platters seem to me to be trying to preserve a paradigm for mixing and beat matching that's inappropriate to the technology. Traktor is really easy to beat match in, even if you ignore the 'automatic' beat matching. And if you can't give up the wikki-wikki you can get Traktor with Final Scratch. Of course, for me, the idea of paying hundreds of dollars for something that REQUIRES you to have turntables in order to mix is kind of crazy. That only makes sense in Ubercoolische world, where the DJ equipment is something you specify in a rider, not something you haul up and down stairs. Once you learn to beat match in one medium it shouldn't be that hard to transfer the skills to a new one. IMHO. On 4/3/06, Adam Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sup List, anyone own a cd mixer that they enjoy playing 313 music related CDs on? Or dislike a CD mixer that you own? I'm considering buying one and saw a couple models in my price range. The Pioneer CDJ-200 Mixer and the Denon DN-S1000, both around $400 US each. Wondering if there are any thoughts on either of these and if they're decent, or if I should hold out for the Pioneer CDJ-800 (around $600US) (can't bring myself to spend $1000 US on the CDJ-1000). Thanks for any tips or info, Adam
(313) Another Dan bell track id question...
Hey, I have looiked in discogs and am not finding it, someone on this list will know. The last 2 times he played here he played a track different versions with a vocal of a man saying either I just want to do my thing or 'we just want to do our thing. I want it, anyway can anyone name this track... thanks. tom
Re: (313) Another Dan bell track id question...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I have looiked in discogs and am not finding it, someone on this list will know. The last 2 times he played here he played a track different versions with a vocal of a man saying either I just want to do my thing or 'we just want to do our thing. I want it, anyway can anyone name this track... thanks. tom Speaking of Daniel Bell mix IDs, what is DKB Killer Loopz? It is the 4th track he plays on the mix he did for my show back in 1999-ish, but there was no label listed for it then and I've always been wondering. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com
Re: (313) minimal sounds
Hell yeah! I love that raudive release. There's another oliver ho out at the moment that's really good as well. Ryan Crosson is from detroit and has had a couple of promising releases. Check out the new galoppierende zuversicht on bruchstuecke as well! fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/04/2006 1:26 am me too.im especially digging what i call post-minimal techno, often wierd and f**ked up, like the louderbach material and the new oliver ho 12 on klang, under the raudive moniker
RE: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany?
Tell me this is *not* something to do with Uwe Schmidt...(I admit I haven't looked.) -Original Message- From: Joost P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2006 22:38 To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany? http://www.mambo-kurt.de/php/mp3s.php?bereich=musiksub=1
RE: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany?
LOL. The Rammstein cover has just made me spray my tea out my nose. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2006 07:57 To: Joost P; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany? Tell me this is *not* something to do with Uwe Schmidt...(I admit I haven't looked.) -Original Message- From: Joost P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2006 22:38 To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany? http://www.mambo-kurt.de/php/mp3s.php?bereich=musiksub=1 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 05/04/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 05/04/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 05/04/2006
RE: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany?
If you liked Mambo Kurt you should absolutely check out the amazing Klaus Wunderlich stuff! Same veine, same vibes! http://www.organfax.co.uk/klauswunderlich.html 'The Uncrowned King of Organ Music' the article says. Stumbled over one of his records on a flea market and thought it one of this rare obscure pieces you just buy for the cover and strangeness of it. But I then found out that this guy sold more than 18 Mio records and seemed to be very well known from the 60s to 80s. Excellent Hammond niceness first, later on the most hilarious synth tunes. Absolutely check the brilliant interview there (scroll down the page) he did for an English radio station in the early 80s. His English is among the funniest German-English I ever heard (especially when he talks about synthesizers...)! Some tunes to listen in there too! For the RealPlayer. Jan (disrupt) www.jahtari.org On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:24:09 +0100, Nik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : LOL. The Rammstein cover has just made me spray my tea out my nose. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2006 07:57 To: Joost P; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany? Tell me this is *not* something to do with Uwe Schmidt...(I admit I haven't looked.) -Original Message- From: Joost P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2006 22:38 To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany? http://www.mambo-kurt.de/php/mp3s.php?bereich=musiksub=1 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 05/04/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 05/04/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 05/04/2006 -- (disrupt) www.jahtari.org
Re: (313) Another Dan bell track id question...
- Original Message - From: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) Another Dan bell track id question... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I have looiked in discogs and am not finding it, someone on this list will know. The last 2 times he played here he played a track different versions with a vocal of a man saying either I just want to do my thing or 'we just want to do our thing. I want it, anyway can anyone name this track... thanks. tom Speaking of Daniel Bell mix IDs, what is DKB Killer Loopz? It is the 4th track he plays on the mix he did for my show back in 1999-ish, but there was no label listed for it then and I've always been wondering. No idea, and discogs ain't much help, but it was worth trying to find out just to hear that Jamie Lidell ID! Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) Another Dan bell track id question...
- Original Message - From: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) Another Dan bell track id question... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I have looiked in discogs and am not finding it, someone on this list will know. The last 2 times he played here he played a track different versions with a vocal of a man saying either I just want to do my thing or 'we just want to do our thing. I want it, anyway can anyone name this track... thanks. tom Speaking of Daniel Bell mix IDs, what is DKB Killer Loopz? It is the 4th track he plays on the mix he did for my show back in 1999-ish, but there was no label listed for it then and I've always been wondering. No idea, and discogs ain't much help, but it was worth trying to find out just to hear that Jamie Lidell ID! Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
(313) moodymann - toronto
just thought i'd mention that Mr. Kenny Dixon Jr. will be dj'ing at an event in Toronto for anyone interested. it's right in the middle of the upcoming Easter long weekend - Saturday Apr. 15th. Checkout www.milkaudio.com for complete details and a chance to win a Moodymann T-Shirt! Cheers! G
(313) CDJ stuff
i love my pioneer cdj800. i can rip tracks from CDs or vinyl and edit them to make my own extended mixes. i love being able to speed up older tracks without them sounding stupidly chipmunky. it just expands the amount of music i can play cos i bought CDs for years before getting into vinyl relatively recently. i also love my 1200. back to my new ren stimpy DVD. philski oh yeah that new ghostly comp is hot.
Re: (313) RE: Record Shops In Helsinki
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:35:09 +0100 Dave Stenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lifesaver's the best vinyl specialist - www.lifesaver.net Agreed. They know the right (and sometimes high) prices for jazz, funk and electro, but used techno goes generally cheap. For example, got Aroy Dee - kiss/the planets on NWAQ and Digital Justice on Fragile (before the represses) for couple of euros. This is the local dealer for moodsgrooves stuff too ;). There's a whole bunch of other record stores in that location (Viiskulma) too - jazzdubsalsa included. Dis 'n' Dat - a small store in one of the underground train stations in the city centre (i forget which) - limited stock but still a few good bits. It's in the Kaisaniemi metro station. Used to be a good shop until they started to charge 11 euros for almost all vinyl singles. But you could make good finds, since some records have been on the shelves for ages. There is also a list of second hand music stores: http://www.saunalahti.fi/oystila/raimo/musa/divarit.html#HELSINKI The descriptions are in finnish, but some of the shops have webpages in english. - Kalle
Re: (313) CDJ stuff
i love being able to speed up older tracks without them sounding stupidly chipmunky. Funnily enough, it's the slowing down of tracks without them sounding daft that is one big reason why I like using Ableton Live. robin...
Re: (313) minimal sounds
ah, what oliver ho would that be? cheers fab. - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 6:36 AM Subject: Re: (313) minimal sounds Hell yeah! I love that raudive release. There's another oliver ho out at the moment that's really good as well. Ryan Crosson is from detroit and has had a couple of promising releases. Check out the new galoppierende zuversicht on bruchstuecke as well! fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/04/2006 1:26 am me too.im especially digging what i call post-minimal techno, often wierd and f**ked up, like the louderbach material and the new oliver ho 12 on klang, under the raudive moniker -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 05/04/2006
(313) moodymann-stoneodenjoe rant
Happy Friday folks! I have a completely un-called for and un-productive time waster for you today. It involves moodymann's stoneodenjoe track. I've been playing it a lot these past few days, and I wonder if anyone else has bothered trying to decipher the thuroughly garbled rant that precedes the track. I've been able to translate a few choice f-bombs and the phrase, flat out, but not much else. Anyone else have any thoughts? I apologize for the absolutely pointless nature of this task, but its Friday, and didn't some important historical, literary figure make some vague remark about the nobility of pursuing pointless endeavors simply for the fun of it? Cheers, Lee R. Herrington U STORE IT Technical Support Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 440-260-2245
(313) This Week's Mix :: Eamonn Doyle (D1) Model One Traffic 13-11-2004
This week's mix: Eamonn Doyle (D1) Model One Traffic 13-11-2004 http://www.thearchiver.net/data/audio/ModelOne/eamonndoyle(d1)modelonetraffic13-11-2004.mp3 or http://tinyurl.com/jkdh7 Also we have a new mailing list for the weekly mixes, to subscribe just send a mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Archiver http://www.thearchiver.net http://www.myspace.com/archiver
Re: (313) minimal sounds
thanks all-- some good tips. i'm digging the jpls stuff (the release on clever, at least), and that louderbach release (i don't know why i slept on that!). and yeah... tom points out that omar-s is representing the stripped down sound outta the d. martin, any tips on those regis 12's would make me a happy man. regis going minimal sounds right up my alley. (he's actually already right up my alley, in certain moods, anyhow.) cheers, d --- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 Apr 2006, at 16:13, dave cronin wrote: just picked up that ia bericochea on rojo, the alex under on plus 8, and the sleeparchive 2x12 all of which have really gotten me in the mood for the deep minimal stuff. The new Regis stuff is even more minimal, I'll check which label/12 his stuff is coming out on, it very good. Blacklight Sleaze on NRK is pretty fine and jacking Falko Brocksieper, Hardwired on Tuningspork is also very good - Hardwired EP Inxec on Contexterrior anything new like this coming out of detroit these days? i'm pretty much over the glitch take on this stuff, but am totally thirsting for that raw, jackin, but not necessarily slammin side of techno. Shame, Kero has some great stuff coming on Blueprint... m
Re: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany?
No, Uwe has nothing to do with this, although the comparison isn't that unexpected. It's still quite different to Señor Coconut though. On 7-apr-2006, at 8:56AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Tell me this is *not* something to do with Uwe Schmidt...(I admit I haven't looked.) -Original Message- From: Joost P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2006 22:38 To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany? http://www.mambo-kurt.de/php/mp3s.php?bereich=musiksub=1
(313) Daniele Baldelli mixes
hey.. Just wondering if anybody know where i can find some old cosmic Daniele Baldelli Mixesany links. I swear i found some a coupla years ago? later Sam ps i don't use them bit torrent thingies. -- Sam K [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub-sequence 2xx 98.3fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different
Re: (313) Daniele Baldelli mixes
Well, not really a mix at all but there's a video interview with him on the redbullmusicacademy site where he talks about some of his top records: http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/LECTURES.95.0.html?act_session=97 http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/LECTURES.95.0.html?act_session=130 Quoting Sam K [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hey.. Just wondering if anybody know where i can find some old cosmic Daniele Baldelli Mixesany links. I swear i found some a coupla years ago? later Sam ps i don't use them bit torrent thingies. -- Sam K [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub-sequence 2xx 98.3fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different
RE: (313) Daniele Baldelli mixes
Try here, some are still online I hope: http://www.mixarchives.net (afrocosmicfunky) http://www.gomma.de/content.html (mixtapes) You'll find some on SLSK as well. Also seek for Dj Loda and Dj Mozart mixes. Some are truly great. If anyboy knows other links... I would welconme them too :) Cheers, Brian. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Sam K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 7 april 2006 19:08 Aan: list Onderwerp: (313) Daniele Baldelli mixes hey.. Just wondering if anybody know where i can find some old cosmic Daniele Baldelli Mixesany links. I swear i found some a coupla years ago? later Sam ps i don't use them bit torrent thingies. -- Sam K [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub-sequence 2xx 98.3fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different… -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/303 - Release Date: 6-4-2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/303 - Release Date: 6-4-2006
Re: (313) OT: moodymann-stoneodenjoe rant
- Original Message - From: Lee Herrington didn't some important historical, literary figure make some vague remark about the nobility of pursuing pointless endeavors simply for the fun of it? Zacharias Moussaoui.
(313) Jamie Lidell, 'free' show, SF, CA, April 12th, 6pm, @Amoeba
http://www.amoebamusic.com/www.amoebamusic.com2/html/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Amoeba Music SAN FRANCISCO, CA 1855 HAIGHT ST. Wednesday - April 12th - 6pm JAMIE LIDELL If 60's soul music had been put in a time capsule, spun half-way 'round the universe and beemed back direct from the year 3000 it still wouldn't sound as alien and future-fresh as this. - iDJ. Performing in support of Multiply in stores now. Catch his full set later that night at the Great American Music Hall with Jimmy Edgar. www.jamielidell.com
