Re: (313) DBX in DC
2 Hours for Richmond?? I am coming from Salisbury (out on the Eastern Shore) which is a hell of a trip. I know the promoter, and they mostly just have regional players come out for this Friday event that they throw. DBX is by far the biggest name I have seen for this event. The promoter has brought people like T-1000 and Disco D out in the past, so I expect that he could end up doing it some more, but with such a small capacity place I don't think they can afford to bring a ton of these guys out. Jeff --- darnistle wrote: The show isn't even happening in DC. Its happening in Fredericksburg, which is maybe an hour away from DC. Not that I pay close attention, but I have seen ads for decent techno acts in DC. Kevin Saunderson played a few months ago and Autechre is coming next month. Problem is DC is about 2 hours from Richmond, which makes it too far away to go on a weekday, which is when 99% of the acts I really would love to see are scheduled. I'm still amazed that this is happening in Fredericksburg of all places. Hopefully, the promoters will continue bringing similar acts to the area. {}0+| Michael Kuszynski wrote: That's nutty - DC never ever ever gets techno. The only stuff you guys get is 'evil nine' playing ridiculous 'breaks' and that henry scott guy being the sleazy club promoter with drug dealers from virginia chilling in the ghetto club row. Then you got the lounges with the congress and agency staffers at happy hour. pretty exciting. On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:47 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn!! Not sure what my plans are but I guess it's chinatown bus from NYC for me ($40 return ... crazy!!) On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:30 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I'm definitely going! Gotta take advantage of events like this, since pickins are truly slim around here. {}0+| Jeffrey Richards wrote: http://rehabrecords.net/danbell.html I've decided that I am going to be there...is there anyone left on the list in the area? I'd enjoy meeting up. Jeff Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: (313) demf 2008
that is an entirely different comment on a completely different issue and doesn't even belong on this 313 thread. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with MNG and Greg about this. The festival itself isn't what it used to be, and so what. I'm just glad there is something and this is how we get things like george bush for president. thank god there is something. tom
Re: (313) demf 2008
Now let's get back to issues of substance like t-shirts and candy ravers. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:27 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is an entirely different comment on a completely different issue and doesn't even belong on this 313 thread. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with MNG and Greg about this. The festival itself isn't what it used to be, and so what. I'm just glad there is something and this is how we get things like george bush for president. thank god there is something. tom -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) demf 2008
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:27 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is an entirely different comment on a completely different issue and doesn't even belong on this 313 thread. i 3 complacency. tom
RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008
I know a few downtown Detroit cyclists, they love it. Safer than London... -Original Message- From: rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 March 2008 03:57 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 Would it be safe riding a bicycle around the city during DEMF? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:01 PM To: darnistle Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 yeah the more i look at that list that the girl from DTM posted, the more i realize how incomplete it is. man, 2001 ruled. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did Akufen actually play the festival? I remember seeing him at an afterparty, but not at the festival. Also, Orb, Richard Devine and Photek played, but aren't listed below. -- {}0+| Detroit Techno Militia wrote: A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have played at past DEMF's. I didn't sort by year but here you go if you want it. Here is a partial list of the people that have played at the festival in years past. ADULT JOHN ARNOLD A GUY CALLED GERALD JUAN ATKINS ARIL BRIKHA/TIME SPACE SLUM VILLAGE BILL VANLOO KENNY LARKIN BONE KEVIN SAUNDERSON KELVIN LARKIN LACKSIDAISYCAL BUZZ GOREE LAUREN FLAX CARLOS SOUFFRONT SCOTT ZACHERIAS CASH MONEY LEN SWAN CRAIG TABORN MAGDA DBX MIKE AGENT X CLARK DEGO MIKE GRANT DEREK PLASLAIKO MIKE HUCKABY DERRICK MAY MINX DETROIT GRAND PUBAHS MOS DEF DIRECT BEAT ASSASSINS OSCAR MCMILLAN DJ SPOOKY [The entire original message is not included]
Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008
I was hoping to cycle around DEMF last year, there aren't many cars - found most of the time there weren't many cars. The hotel told me good luck trying to find a cycle rental though! On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know a few downtown Detroit cyclists, they love it. Safer than London... -Original Message- From: rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 March 2008 03:57 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 Would it be safe riding a bicycle around the city during DEMF? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:01 PM To: darnistle Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 yeah the more i look at that list that the girl from DTM posted, the more i realize how incomplete it is. man, 2001 ruled. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did Akufen actually play the festival? I remember seeing him at an afterparty, but not at the festival. Also, Orb, Richard Devine and Photek played, but aren't listed below. -- {}0+| Detroit Techno Militia wrote: A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have played at past DEMF's. I didn't sort by year but here you go if you want it. Here is a partial list of the people that have played at the festival in years past. ADULT JOHN ARNOLD A GUY CALLED GERALD JUAN ATKINS ARIL BRIKHA/TIME SPACE SLUM VILLAGE BILL VANLOO KENNY LARKIN BONE KEVIN SAUNDERSON KELVIN LARKIN LACKSIDAISYCAL BUZZ GOREE LAUREN FLAX CARLOS SOUFFRONT SCOTT ZACHERIAS CASH MONEY LEN SWAN CRAIG TABORN MAGDA DBX MIKE AGENT X CLARK DEGO MIKE GRANT DEREK PLASLAIKO MIKE HUCKABY DERRICK MAY MINX DETROIT GRAND PUBAHS MOS DEF DIRECT BEAT ASSASSINS OSCAR MCMILLAN DJ SPOOKY [The entire original message is not included]
Re: (313) First DEMF line-up
I don't think Bukem made it to the festival MEK paul mouser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/14/2008 06:29:43 PM: that was a very good email to ltj bukem On 14/03/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found this in the archives it was from Dale Lawrence, May 1st 2000 __ MAY 27 : DAY ONE __ DEMF Stage: 13:00 Craig Taborn 14:00 Space Time Continuum 15:00 DJ Spooky 17:00 Tikiman 19:00 DBX 20:00 TBA 20:30 Isotope 217 21:30 Stacey Pullen 00:00 END MOTOR Stage: 12:00 Hannah 14:00 Minx 16:00 Mike Agent X Clark 18:00 Theo Parrish 20:00 END CPOP Stage: 12:00 Magda 14:00 Mike Grant 16:00 D Wynn 18:00 Kenny Larkin 20:00 END UNDERGROUND Stage: 12:00 Jeff Karolski 13:00 Clark Warner 14:00 Jason Hogans 15:00 Clark Warner 16:00 Dykehouse 17:00 Bill Van Loo 18:00 TBA 19:00 Recloose 20:00 TBA 21:00 Wild Planet 22:00 TBA 23:00 Scan 7 00:00 END __ MAY 28 : DAY TWO __ DEMF Stage: 12:00 Double Helix 13:00 TBA 13:30 John Arnold 14:30 TBA 15:00 Aril Brikha/Time Space 16:00 Kevin Saunderson 18:00 Laurent Garnier (with band) 19:00 TBA 20:00 The Roots 21:00 Gary Chandler 22:00 Mos Def 23:00 Gary Chandler 00:00 END MOTOR Stage: 12:00 Oscar McMillan 14:00 TBA 16:00 Buzz Goree 18:00 TBA 20:00 END CPOP Stage: 12:00 Lacksidaisycal 13:30 Houseshoes 15:30 Len Swan 18:00 Breakfast Club 18:30 Cash Money 20:00 END UNDERGROUND Stage: 12:00 Carlos Souffront 14:00 Spacelings Bassheads 15:00 Carlos Souffront 16:00 Adult 17:00 Godfather 19:00 Ectomorph 20:00 DJ Assault 22:00 Fanon Flowers 00:00 END __ MAY 29 : DAY THREE __ DEMF Stage: 12:00 TBA 15:00 Theorem 16:00 Juan Atkins 18:00 Rolando 20:00 Derrick May 22:00 Richie Hawtin MOTOR Stage: 12:00 Derek Plaslaiko 14:00 TBA 16:00 Mike Huckaby 18:00 Bone 20:00 END CPOP Stage: 12:00 Ronin 14:00 Lauren Flax 15:00 A Guy Called Gerald 17:00 Dego 20:00 END UNDERGROUND Stage: 12:00 Vitreous Flux 13:00 Direct Beat Assassins 14:00 Urban Tribe 16:00 Keith Tucker/Puzzelbox 17:00 Shake 19:00 Detroit Grand Pubahs 20:00 END
(313) some FACs
March 7th was the 25th Anniversary of New Order's Blue Monday http://siart.blogspot.com/2008/03/funky-friday-happy-birthday-fac-73.html http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/2008_03_01_archive.html and there's a new Joy Division documentary coming out http://www.joydivisionmovie.co.uk/ MEK
Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008
There are a few cycle rental places starting up recently. I'll find the info for you cos I know cycling downtown is really becoming a popular thing to do. I always cycle during the summer now. It's much preferred to driving. On 3/16/08, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was hoping to cycle around DEMF last year, there aren't many cars - found most of the time there weren't many cars. The hotel told me good luck trying to find a cycle rental though! On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know a few downtown Detroit cyclists, they love it. Safer than London... -Original Message- From: rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 March 2008 03:57 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 Would it be safe riding a bicycle around the city during DEMF? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:01 PM To: darnistle Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 yeah the more i look at that list that the girl from DTM posted, the more i realize how incomplete it is. man, 2001 ruled. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did Akufen actually play the festival? I remember seeing him at an afterparty, but not at the festival. Also, Orb, Richard Devine and Photek played, but aren't listed below. -- {}0+| Detroit Techno Militia wrote: A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have played at past DEMF's. I didn't sort by year but here you go if you want it. Here is a partial list of the people that have played at the festival in years past. ADULT JOHN ARNOLD A GUY CALLED GERALD JUAN ATKINS ARIL BRIKHA/TIME SPACE SLUM VILLAGE BILL VANLOO KENNY LARKIN BONE KEVIN SAUNDERSON KELVIN LARKIN LACKSIDAISYCAL BUZZ GOREE LAUREN FLAX CARLOS SOUFFRONT SCOTT ZACHERIAS CASH MONEY LEN SWAN CRAIG TABORN MAGDA DBX MIKE AGENT X CLARK DEGO MIKE GRANT DEREK PLASLAIKO MIKE HUCKABY DERRICK MAY MINX DETROIT GRAND PUBAHS MOS DEF DIRECT BEAT ASSASSINS OSCAR MCMILLAN DJ SPOOKY [The entire original message is not included]
Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April
Thats a shame, they are a great live act (for a bunch of guys that stand still before their terminals for the whole performance), I saw them about 5 years ago, it was amazing to hear their songs on a killer sound system, they had beefed up the bass end of there tunes considerably. One of those I can now die content kind of moments. rg wrote: In autumn 1990 or 91 I was in Prague Czechoslovakia, a random visit as someone had given me a few days left on a rail pass and I was in Switzerland. I saw posters in Czech for 'Kraftwerk' in the city, so wrote it down and on the day headed out with 6 hours to spare. Ended up at the wrong place, finally got to this 60's modernist cultural center next to a big river directly off the train, no roads, the station was at the edge of this complex and I could hear the music, appregiators but can't remember the song, I think it was the model...it had just started, and there was no one anywhere, deserted, but with krafwerk echoing through all these concrete passages and tunnels and chambers. I eventually found the ticket booth and presented my money and the women there told that I had to have bought a ticket somewhere else in the city and could only present it at that booth, or something like that, like it had started and it was seated, I couldn't work it out...so absolutely no entry...so I listened to a few songs through this closed auditorium door, as it got dark in this monolithic concrete civic centre, it was weird...like no audience noise, no rubbish, no drinks...and then I got fed up and left feeling weird enough as it was...never forget it though...just so wish I'd run in that door man. -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:21 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there does seem to be some kind of Kraftwerk Kurse for some people In 2004, I had a ticket to see them at Coachella, and a plane ticket to San Francisco to go see them at The Warfield. A week or so before Coachella, I came down with adult Chicken Pox and had to miss both shows. - Greg
Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April
Thats a shame, they are a great live act (for a bunch of guys that stand still before their terminals for the whole performance), In the 70s and 80s, they used to sit! jeff
(313) same as it ever was, not what it used to be, plus ca change, plu c'est la meme chose
I posted this to the wrong list ;-( here it is again. -- Forwarded message -- I didn't go to the festival last year, I didn't get to stay for monday night in 2006. In 2006 I really felt a little sad about the state of the festival. My primary sadness is that I bust my ass to get there early in the day and no one was there. I miss it being a free festival, because the people of Detroit are to a large extent now shut out of the festival. But I'm sad about a lot of things that aren't what they used to be. That happens if you live long enough. In 2000 and 2001 there was a sense of limitless optimism about Dance Culture and Detroit techno in particular. That is pretty much gone now, and unless you live in a large city in the US, there's really no dance culture left. The distributors and labels have been going out of business left and right. Magazines are folding, or turning into irrelevant Publicists' tools. But there's no reason to slit your wrists. Memorial Day Weekend in Detroit is a pretty great time. There will be great sets at the festival, there will be great afterparties, and the grits at the Clique will still be ... gritty? And curiously, on the rare occasions that we have decent dance events in Iowa, they're well attended by enthusiastic people. And there's a resurgence of DJ culture of a completely different sort -- rock nights, hip hop nights, mash up nights. The ultimate though was last Friday at the Picador, when there were two guys from local death metal bands quite earnestly DJing old metal records. It isn't what it used to be but when it is it ever?
Re: (313) demf 2008
No I completely disagree with you Greg. sorta kinda Detroit, to me, is not a festival. Uh wha? But we're talking about the festival. No one has said that Greektown, or the afterparties, or showing up at so'n'so's (insert techno namedrop) house is not great. That stuff is all great. Traveling is great. These are the attractions of traveling. There are many great cities in the world full of brilliant artists and great atractions and Detroit is one of them. Yeah. Let's see you get that kind of experience at insert some generic Euro festival here It won't be the same experience. It could be equally great. I appreciate Detroit very much, it's a great and unique place. But it is besides the point if we're talking about the musical quality of the festival. Obviously it is great to see friends and enjoy the sights, although I am not so sure I enjoy the atmosphere of the festival the best for this, or having to shell out hundreds of dollars in hotels etc to do so. Waxing romantic about how it's the city that counts and it doesn't matter if the festival goes to crap is not really a very reasonable argument IMO. That said, I got the most detailed and helpful description of last year's festival from ex-313er Jamaul Redmond over the weekend. He said it was still amazing, that there was a great performance on one stage or another at all times, and described performances I hadn't even heard about (Shake with 3 Chairs?? 6 hrs of Rhythm Sound with one of the guys from Wackies?!). He said there was no shortage of great music, and from what he said, I believe it! He also added that all the minimal and inane club music was mostly concentrated in the Beatport tent. That doesn't sound so bad at all if it was that easily avoided. Jamaul played a mindblowingly great set in Charlotte, NC on Saturday night. His stuff is very much in the vein of the best Rob Hood stuff, like the first dozen M-plants, really excellent, and his focus while performing is really impressive...Highly recommend any body who enjoys that original M-plant sound to check him out if you get the chance...He opened for Rob Hood before and gave him a run for his money...