Re: (313) DBX in DC

2008-03-16 Thread Jeffrey Richards
2 Hours for Richmond??  I am coming from Salisbury
(out on the Eastern Shore) which is a hell of a trip.

I know the promoter, and they mostly just have
regional players come out for this Friday event that
they throw.  DBX is by far the biggest name I have
seen for this event. 

The promoter has brought people like T-1000 and Disco
D  out in the past, so I expect that he could end up
doing it some more, but with such a small capacity
place I don't think they can afford to bring a ton of
these guys out.

Jeff


--- darnistle  wrote:

 The show isn't even happening in DC.  Its happening
 in Fredericksburg, 
 which is maybe an hour away from DC.
 
 Not that I pay close attention, but I have seen ads
 for decent techno 
 acts in DC.  Kevin Saunderson played a few months
 ago and Autechre is 
 coming next month.
 
 Problem is DC is about 2 hours from Richmond, which
 makes it too far 
 away to go on a weekday, which is when 99% of the
 acts I really would 
 love to see are scheduled.
 
 I'm still amazed that this is happening in
 Fredericksburg of all places. 
 Hopefully, the promoters will continue bringing
 similar acts to the area.
 
 
 {}0+|
 
 
 Michael Kuszynski wrote:
  That's nutty - DC never ever ever gets techno.
  
  The only stuff you guys get is 'evil nine' playing
 ridiculous 'breaks'
  and that henry scott guy being the sleazy club
 promoter with drug
  dealers from virginia chilling in the ghetto club
 row.
  
  Then you got the lounges with the congress and
 agency staffers at
  happy hour.  pretty exciting.
  
  On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:47 AM, M Ng
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Damn!!   Not sure what my plans are but I guess
 it's chinatown bus
   from NYC for me ($40 return ... crazy!!)
 
 
 
   On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:30 PM, darnistle
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well I'm definitely going!
   
 Gotta take advantage of events like this,
 since pickins are truly slim
 around here.
   
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 Jeffrey Richards wrote:
  http://rehabrecords.net/danbell.html
 
  I've decided that I am going to be
 there...is there
  anyone left on the list in the area?  I'd
 enjoy
  meeting up.
 
  Jeff
 
 
   
 
  
  
  
 



  

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Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread M Ng
that is an entirely different comment on a completely different issue
and doesn't even belong on this 313 thread.



On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm with MNG and Greg about this.  The festival itself isn't what it
used to be, and so what.  I'm just glad there is something

  and this is how we get things like george bush for president. thank
  god there is something.

  tom



Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread Michael Kuszynski
Now let's get back to issues of substance like t-shirts and candy ravers.

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:27 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 that is an entirely different comment on a completely different issue
  and doesn't even belong on this 313 thread.



  On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm with MNG and Greg about this.  The festival itself isn't what it
  used to be, and so what.  I'm just glad there is something
  
and this is how we get things like george bush for president. thank
god there is something.
  
tom
  




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Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:27 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 that is an entirely different comment on a completely different issue
  and doesn't even belong on this 313 thread.

i 3 complacency.

tom


RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread Dan Bean
I know a few downtown Detroit cyclists, they love it. Safer than London...

-Original Message-
From: rg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 March 2008 03:57
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

Would it be safe riding a bicycle around the city during DEMF?

-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:01 PM
To: darnistle
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

yeah the more i look at that list that the girl from DTM posted, the
more i realize how incomplete it is.  man, 2001 ruled.

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Did Akufen actually play the festival?  I remember seeing him at an
  afterparty, but not at the festival.

  Also, Orb, Richard Devine and Photek played, but aren't listed below.


  --
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  Detroit Techno Militia wrote:
   A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have
   played at past DEMF's.  I didn't sort by year but here you go if you
   want it.
  
   Here is a partial list of the people that have played at the festival
   in years past.
   ADULT
   JOHN ARNOLD
   A GUY CALLED GERALD
   JUAN ATKINS
   ARIL BRIKHA/TIME SPACE
   SLUM VILLAGE
   BILL VANLOO
   KENNY LARKIN
   BONE
   KEVIN SAUNDERSON
   KELVIN LARKIN
   LACKSIDAISYCAL
   BUZZ GOREE
   LAUREN FLAX
   CARLOS SOUFFRONT
   SCOTT ZACHERIAS
   CASH MONEY
   LEN SWAN
   CRAIG TABORN
   MAGDA
   DBX
   MIKE AGENT X CLARK
   DEGO
   MIKE GRANT
   DEREK PLASLAIKO
   MIKE HUCKABY
   DERRICK MAY
   MINX
   DETROIT GRAND PUBAHS
   MOS DEF
   DIRECT BEAT ASSASSINS
   OSCAR MCMILLAN
   DJ SPOOKY


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Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread M Ng
I was hoping to cycle around DEMF last year, there aren't many cars -
found most of the time there weren't many cars. The hotel told me good
luck trying to find a cycle rental though!

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know a few downtown Detroit cyclists, they love it. Safer than London...

  -Original Message-
  From: rg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 16 March 2008 03:57
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

  Would it be safe riding a bicycle around the city during DEMF?

  -Original Message-
  From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:01 PM
  To: darnistle
  Cc: 313
  Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

  yeah the more i look at that list that the girl from DTM posted, the
  more i realize how incomplete it is.  man, 2001 ruled.

  On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Did Akufen actually play the festival?  I remember seeing him at an
afterparty, but not at the festival.
  
Also, Orb, Richard Devine and Photek played, but aren't listed below.
  
  
--
{}0+|
  
  
  
  
  
Detroit Techno Militia wrote:
 A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have
 played at past DEMF's.  I didn't sort by year but here you go if you
 want it.

 Here is a partial list of the people that have played at the festival
 in years past.
 ADULT
 JOHN ARNOLD
 A GUY CALLED GERALD
 JUAN ATKINS
 ARIL BRIKHA/TIME SPACE
 SLUM VILLAGE
 BILL VANLOO
 KENNY LARKIN
 BONE
 KEVIN SAUNDERSON
 KELVIN LARKIN
 LACKSIDAISYCAL
 BUZZ GOREE
 LAUREN FLAX
 CARLOS SOUFFRONT
 SCOTT ZACHERIAS
 CASH MONEY
 LEN SWAN
 CRAIG TABORN
 MAGDA
 DBX
 MIKE AGENT X CLARK
 DEGO
 MIKE GRANT
 DEREK PLASLAIKO
 MIKE HUCKABY
 DERRICK MAY
 MINX
 DETROIT GRAND PUBAHS
 MOS DEF
 DIRECT BEAT ASSASSINS
 OSCAR MCMILLAN
 DJ SPOOKY


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Re: (313) First DEMF line-up

2008-03-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I don't think Bukem made it to the festival

MEK

paul mouser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/14/2008 06:29:43 PM:

 that was a very good email to ltj bukem

 On 14/03/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  found this in the archives
 
  it was from Dale Lawrence, May 1st 2000
 
  __
  MAY 27 : DAY ONE
  __
 
  DEMF Stage:
 
  13:00   Craig Taborn
  14:00   Space Time Continuum
  15:00   DJ Spooky
  17:00   Tikiman
  19:00   DBX
  20:00   TBA
  20:30   Isotope 217
  21:30   Stacey Pullen
  00:00   END
 
  MOTOR Stage:
 
  12:00   Hannah
  14:00   Minx
  16:00   Mike Agent X Clark
  18:00   Theo Parrish
  20:00   END
 
  CPOP Stage:
  12:00   Magda
  14:00   Mike Grant
  16:00   D Wynn
  18:00   Kenny Larkin
  20:00   END
 
  UNDERGROUND Stage:
 
  12:00   Jeff Karolski
  13:00   Clark Warner
  14:00   Jason Hogans
  15:00   Clark Warner
  16:00   Dykehouse
  17:00   Bill Van Loo
  18:00   TBA
  19:00   Recloose
  20:00   TBA
  21:00   Wild Planet
  22:00   TBA
  23:00   Scan 7
  00:00   END
 
 
  __
  MAY 28 : DAY TWO
  __
 
  DEMF Stage:
 
  12:00   Double Helix
  13:00   TBA
  13:30   John Arnold
  14:30   TBA
  15:00   Aril Brikha/Time Space
  16:00   Kevin Saunderson
  18:00   Laurent Garnier (with band)
  19:00   TBA
  20:00   The Roots
  21:00   Gary Chandler
  22:00   Mos Def
  23:00   Gary Chandler
  00:00   END
 
  MOTOR Stage:
 
  12:00   Oscar McMillan
  14:00   TBA
  16:00   Buzz Goree
  18:00   TBA
  20:00   END
 
  CPOP Stage:
 
  12:00   Lacksidaisycal
  13:30   Houseshoes
  15:30   Len Swan
  18:00   Breakfast Club
  18:30   Cash Money
  20:00   END
 
  UNDERGROUND Stage:
  12:00   Carlos Souffront
  14:00   Spacelings  Bassheads
  15:00   Carlos Souffront
  16:00   Adult
  17:00   Godfather
  19:00   Ectomorph
  20:00   DJ Assault
  22:00   Fanon Flowers
  00:00   END
 
  __
  MAY 29 : DAY THREE
  __
 
  DEMF Stage:
  12:00   TBA
  15:00   Theorem
  16:00   Juan Atkins
  18:00   Rolando
  20:00   Derrick May
  22:00   Richie Hawtin
 
  MOTOR Stage:
  12:00   Derek Plaslaiko
  14:00   TBA
  16:00   Mike Huckaby
  18:00   Bone
  20:00   END
 
  CPOP Stage:
  12:00   Ronin
  14:00   Lauren Flax
  15:00   A Guy Called Gerald
  17:00   Dego
  20:00   END
 
  UNDERGROUND Stage:
  12:00   Vitreous Flux
  13:00   Direct Beat Assassins
  14:00   Urban Tribe
  16:00   Keith Tucker/Puzzelbox
  17:00   Shake
  19:00   Detroit Grand Pubahs
  20:00   END
 
 



(313) some FACs

2008-03-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

March 7th was the 25th Anniversary of New Order's Blue Monday
http://siart.blogspot.com/2008/03/funky-friday-happy-birthday-fac-73.html
http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/2008_03_01_archive.html


and there's a new Joy Division documentary coming out
http://www.joydivisionmovie.co.uk/


MEK




Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread UI Design
There are a few cycle rental places starting up recently.  I'll find
the info for you cos I know cycling downtown is really becoming a
popular thing to do.  I always cycle during the summer now.  It's much
preferred to driving.




On 3/16/08, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was hoping to cycle around DEMF last year, there aren't many cars -
 found most of the time there weren't many cars. The hotel told me good
 luck trying to find a cycle rental though!

 On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I know a few downtown Detroit cyclists, they love it. Safer than London...
 
   -Original Message-
   From: rg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 16 March 2008 03:57
   To: 313@hyperreal.org
   Subject: RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008
 
   Would it be safe riding a bicycle around the city during DEMF?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:01 PM
   To: darnistle
   Cc: 313
   Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008
 
   yeah the more i look at that list that the girl from DTM posted, the
   more i realize how incomplete it is.  man, 2001 ruled.
 
   On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
Did Akufen actually play the festival?  I remember seeing him at an
 afterparty, but not at the festival.
   
 Also, Orb, Richard Devine and Photek played, but aren't listed below.
   
   
 --
 {}0+|
   
   
   
   
   
 Detroit Techno Militia wrote:
  A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have
  played at past DEMF's.  I didn't sort by year but here you go if you
  want it.
 
  Here is a partial list of the people that have played at the festival
  in years past.
  ADULT
  JOHN ARNOLD
  A GUY CALLED GERALD
  JUAN ATKINS
  ARIL BRIKHA/TIME SPACE
  SLUM VILLAGE
  BILL VANLOO
  KENNY LARKIN
  BONE
  KEVIN SAUNDERSON
  KELVIN LARKIN
  LACKSIDAISYCAL
  BUZZ GOREE
  LAUREN FLAX
  CARLOS SOUFFRONT
  SCOTT ZACHERIAS
  CASH MONEY
  LEN SWAN
  CRAIG TABORN
  MAGDA
  DBX
  MIKE AGENT X CLARK
  DEGO
  MIKE GRANT
  DEREK PLASLAIKO
  MIKE HUCKABY
  DERRICK MAY
  MINX
  DETROIT GRAND PUBAHS
  MOS DEF
  DIRECT BEAT ASSASSINS
  OSCAR MCMILLAN
  DJ SPOOKY
 
 
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Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-16 Thread Michael Bramwell
Thats a shame, they are a great live act (for a bunch of guys that stand 
still before their terminals for the whole performance), I saw them 
about 5 years ago, it was amazing to hear their songs on a killer sound 
system, they had beefed up the bass end of there tunes considerably. One 
of those I can now die content kind of moments.


rg wrote:

In autumn 1990 or 91 I was in Prague Czechoslovakia, a random visit as
someone had given me a few days left on a rail pass and I was in
Switzerland. I saw posters in Czech for 'Kraftwerk' in the city, so wrote it
down and on the day headed out with 6 hours to spare. Ended up at the wrong
place, finally got to this 60's modernist cultural center next to a big
river directly off the train, no roads, the station was at the edge of this
complex and I could hear the music, appregiators but can't remember the
song, I think it was the model...it had just started, and there was no one
anywhere, deserted, but with krafwerk echoing through all these concrete
passages and tunnels and chambers. I eventually found the ticket booth and
presented my money and the women there told that I had to have bought a
ticket somewhere else in the city and could only present it at that booth,
or something like that, like it had started and it was seated, I couldn't
work it out...so absolutely no entry...so I listened to a few songs through
this closed auditorium door, as it got dark in this monolithic concrete
civic centre, it was weird...like no audience noise, no rubbish, no
drinks...and then I got fed up and left feeling weird enough as it
was...never forget it though...just so wish I'd run in that door man. 


-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:21 PM

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

there does seem to be some kind of Kraftwerk Kurse for some people



In 2004, I had a ticket to see them at Coachella, and a plane
ticket to San Francisco to go see them at The Warfield.

A week or so before Coachella, I came down with adult Chicken Pox
and had to miss both shows.

- Greg

  





Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-16 Thread theREALmxyzptlk


Thats a shame, they are a great live act (for a bunch of guys that stand 
still before their terminals for the whole performance), 


In the 70s and 80s, they used to sit!

jeff


(313) same as it ever was, not what it used to be, plus ca change, plu c'est la meme chose

2008-03-16 Thread kent williams
I posted this to the wrong list ;-( here it is again.


-- Forwarded message --

I didn't go to the festival last year, I didn't get to stay for monday
 night in 2006.  In 2006 I really felt a little sad about the state of
 the festival.  My primary sadness is that I bust my ass to get there
 early in the day and no one was there.  I miss it being a free
 festival, because the people of Detroit are to a large extent now shut
 out of the festival.

 But I'm sad about a lot of things that aren't what they used to be.
 That happens if you live long enough.

 In 2000 and 2001 there was a sense of limitless optimism about Dance
 Culture and Detroit techno in particular. That is pretty much gone
 now, and unless you live in a large city in the US, there's really no
 dance culture left.  The distributors and labels have been going out
 of business left and right. Magazines are folding, or turning into
 irrelevant Publicists' tools.

 But there's no reason to slit your wrists. Memorial Day Weekend in
 Detroit is a pretty great time.  There will be great sets at the
 festival, there will be great afterparties, and the grits at the
 Clique will still be ... gritty?

 And curiously, on the rare occasions that we have decent dance events
 in Iowa, they're well attended by enthusiastic people.  And there's a
 resurgence of DJ culture of a completely different sort -- rock
 nights, hip hop nights, mash up nights.  The ultimate though was last
 Friday at the Picador, when there were two guys from local death metal
 bands quite earnestly DJing old metal records.  It isn't what it used
 to be but when it is it ever?


Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread JT Stewart
No I completely disagree with you Greg. sorta kinda

 Detroit, to me, is not a festival.

Uh wha? But we're talking about the festival. No one has said that
Greektown, or the afterparties, or showing up at so'n'so's (insert
techno namedrop) house is not great. That stuff is all great.
Traveling is great. These are the attractions of traveling. There are
many great cities in the world full of brilliant artists and great
atractions and Detroit is one of them.

  Yeah.  Let's see you get that kind of experience at
  insert some generic Euro festival here

It won't be the same experience. It could be equally great. I
appreciate Detroit very much, it's a great and unique place. But it is
besides the point if we're talking about the musical quality of the
festival. Obviously it is great to see friends and enjoy the sights,
although I am not so sure I enjoy the atmosphere of the festival the
best for this, or having to shell out hundreds of dollars in hotels
etc to do so. Waxing romantic about how it's the city that counts and
it doesn't matter if the festival goes to crap is not really a very
reasonable argument IMO.

That said, I got the most detailed and helpful description of last
year's festival from ex-313er Jamaul Redmond over the weekend. He said
it was still amazing, that there was a great performance on one stage
or another at all times, and described performances I hadn't even
heard about (Shake with 3 Chairs?? 6 hrs of Rhythm  Sound with one of
the guys from Wackies?!). He said there was no shortage of great
music, and from what he said, I believe it! He also added that all the
minimal and inane club music was mostly concentrated in the Beatport
tent. That doesn't sound so bad at all if it was that easily avoided.
Jamaul played a mindblowingly great set in Charlotte, NC on Saturday
night. His stuff is very much in the vein of the best Rob Hood stuff,
like the first dozen M-plants, really excellent, and his focus while
performing is really impressive...Highly recommend any body who enjoys
that original M-plant sound to check him out if you get the
chance...He opened for Rob Hood before and gave him a run for his
money...